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Operator
Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the WillScot Third Quarter 2018 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the call over to Matt Jacobsen, Vice President of Finance. Sir, you may begin.
MJ
Matthew Jacobsen
Analyst
Thank you, and good morning. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that we will discuss forward-looking information as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those forward-looking statements as a result of various factors, including those discussed in our press release and the risk factors identified in our Form 10-K filed with the SEC and our Form 10-Q filed today. While we may update forward-looking statements in the future, we disclaim any obligation to do so. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, all of which speak only as of today.
We'd like to remind you that some of the statements and responses to your questions in this conference call may include forward-looking statements. As such, they are subject to future events and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. WillScot assumes no obligation and does not intend to update any such forward-looking statements. The press release we issued last night, and the presentation for today's call are posted on the Investor Relations section of our website. A copy of the release has also been included in an 8-K that we submitted to the SEC.
We will make a replay of this conference call available via webcast on the company website.
For financial information that has been expressed on a non-GAAP basis, we have included reconciliations to the comparable GAAP information. Please refer to the tables and slide presentation accompanying today's earnings release.
Lastly, this morning, we are filing our 10-Q with the SEC for the period ended September 30, 2018. The 10-Q will be available through the SEC or on the Investor Relations section of our website.
Now with me today, I have Brad Soultz, our President and CEO; and Tim Boswell, our CFO. Brad will kick off today's call with a brief overview of WillScot's strategy, summarize our third quarter results and provide an update on our progress related to mergers and acquisitions among other things. Tim will then provide additional detail on the financial results for the quarter and provide an update on our recent activities in the capital markets before we open up the call for questions.
With that, I'll turn the call over to Brad.
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Thanks, Matt, and welcome, everyone, to WillScot's Third Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. Turning to Slide 3, I'll provide a brief overview of the company given that we have several new investors and new analysts joining us today. As the specialty rental service market leader, our mission is to provide innovative modular space and portable storage solutions. We focus on providing these solutions Ready to Work so that our customers can forget about the space, focus on what they do best, which is working the project, being productive and meeting their goals. We now provide these solutions to more than 50,000 customers with a fleet of approximately 160,000 units, representing together over 80 million square foot of temporary space positioned across The United States, Canada and Mexico. When we deliver an immediately functional space solution, productivity is all our customer sees. This value proposition is unique in the industry, our customers are embracing it, and it's driving our growth. Turning to Slide 4. I'd highlight no other company has the scope, scale, turnkey capability and service commitment to deliver like we do. Our revenues for the 12 months ending September 30, 2018, were now over $1 billion on a pro forma basis. This is inclusive of our 3 acquisitions, Acton, Tyson and ModSpace, as if we own them for the entire period. We now operate an unparalleled branch network in the Modular Space sector of over 120 locations, serving our customers with diverse fleet which has an original equipment cost of approximately $2.8 billion. I'd highlight there are 3 key attributes that differentiate WillScot. The first is Ready to Work. We've repositioned the business strategically with its unique value proposition through the expansion of our offering of value-added products and services or VAPS, our customers value it, it's driving our…
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Timothy Boswell
Analyst
Thank you, Brad. Please turn to Slide 12, and we'll go through the financial results in a bit more detail. We had no shortage of excitement in Q3, with continued strong organic growth, substantial completion of the Acton Mobile integration other than real estate consolidation and the financing activities associated with the closing of the ModSpace acquisition. As Brad mentioned, our increased guidance on October 1 reflects our enthusiasm regarding the trajectory of the business. In the top-left chart, total revenues were up 88% year-over-year, with growth in both segments driven by 3 factors: first, organic growth in the legacy WillScot U.S. segment; the acquisition of Acton Mobile at the end of 2017; and 1 and 1.5 months of contribution from ModSpace after closing that acquisition in the middle of the quarter on August 15, 2018. On the bottom chart, we present a pro forma revenue bridge to capture the organic performance of the combined portfolio. Revenues were up $31 million or 11.6% year-over-year as if we had owned ModSpace, Acton and Tyson in the prior year and with the majority of the growth coming from average rental rates in the U.S. across the combined portfolio. In the top-right chart, adjusted EBITDA of $64.6 million in the quarter was up 100.6% versus prior year, and our adjusted EBITDA margin percentage expanded by 185 basis points to 29.5%. As you will recall, with the Acton acquisition, we operated the business in parallel to WillScot with a duplicative cost structure for the first full quarter post closing until integration actions began to flow through our financial results, which we saw in Q2 this year, and having closed ModSpace on August 15, we expect this same phenomenon through late Q4 this year or early 2019 with further margin expansion as cost and revenue…
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Super. Thanks, Tim. So, obviously, we're delighted with our third quarter results and the progress we've made transforming WillScot in the last year since returning to the public markets, where there are lot of outstanding results and key indicators packed into our prior commentary, I'd like to circle back to 3: first, the third quarter adjusted EBITDA was up 100.6% year-over-year and continues to accelerate; second, third quarter U.S. Modular rates up 13.4% year-over-year on a pro forma basis, the fourth consecutive quarter of double-digit growth; and third, we achieved critical milestones in the integration of our transformational acquisition of ModSpace, which certainly further unlocks the significant earnings growth embedded in this portfolio through the realization of cost synergies, further penetration of value-added products and services and price optimization. All of these are in our control.
Our strategy is working, and it's apparent in our results. Now we appreciate the time you've taken today with us, and thank you for your interest in our company. We look forward to speaking to many of you very soon. This concludes our prepared remarks. And now, we'd like to open it up to take your questions. Operator, please open the line.
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Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Courtney Yakavonis from Morgan Stanley.
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Courtney O'Brien
Analyst
Can you guys just separate out, first, just how much of the rate growth the 13.4% pro forma this quarter came from, kind of core rate growth versus your VAPS strategy in increasing penetration?
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Timothy Boswell
Analyst
Yes, Courtney. This is Tim. This focus on the U.S. gets where most of the action was, it was up 13.4% on a pro forma basis, about 60% of that was coming from kind of core modular rates, and the remainder was coming from value-added products, price and penetration. And as we think about like the ModSpace impact there, very good traction on the core unit rates and actually focused on driving value-added products in recent quarters as well. So I think in prior quarters, we had said about half of the rate growth was coming from units, and the other half was coming from VAPS, as you bring the ModSpace, that shifted a little bit to 60-40.
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Courtney O'Brien
Analyst
Okay. But do you expect it to switch, kind of going forward, back to more VAPS driven?
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Timothy Boswell
Analyst
I think the way I would think about it is we've quantified the VAPS opportunity, which is north of $125 million, and that's across the combined portfolio. And we see that playing out mostly in linear fashion over the next 3 to 4 years. And then on top of that, it will be whatever kind of modular unit rate growth we can deliver.
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Courtney O'Brien
Analyst
Okay. Great. And then just going back to your guidance again, I think you reiterated that you're expecting to have these duplicative cost structures for ModSpace similar to how you did with Acton. I'm just trying to pair that with some of the comments that you guys made on consolidating to 120 locations this quarter. So the assumption is still that costs will be associated with some of those stores that are being planned to consolidate?
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Timothy Boswell
Analyst
Yes. That's like -- the progress on the integration has been tremendous. The first step is kind of picking your operating locations and concentrating -- organizing your personnel around them. We've not exited all of those lake locations that Brad described as idle. So we still incur that cost, and that real estate liquidation or consolidation strategy will play out, really, throughout the course of 2019 and into 2020.
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Courtney O'Brien
Analyst
Okay. Got you. And then just lastly on modular space units on rent, I think that only increased about 0.1% pro forma versus close to 2% in prior quarters. So is the right way to be thinking about it, really, that you guys are going to be pretty flattish pro forma growth kind of as you digest this acquired fleet for the next several quarters? Or would you expect that to reaccelerate?
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Yes. Tim and I have said, I think, these markets are going to present probably a 2% to 3% growth opportunity. As we roll forward, just given the indicators I mentioned before, we are also quite frugal with our capital and very focused on driving rate, the VAPS expansion as well as the rate optimization. So we've kind of -- so we'd be comfortable with a 0% to 1% increase. I do think we've had some significant, let's say, distractions the last quarter as we navigated, and the fact that we ended the quarter with a -- basically a flat unit on rent is actually quite pleasing than it was in line with my expectation. So at this 0% to 1% as we complete this integration.
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Operator
Operator
And our next question comes from Phil Ng from Jefferies.
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Philip Ng
Analyst
Based on the momentum you're seeing in 3Q, your implied 4 key guidance seem somewhat conservative. Are there any dynamics such as seasonality we should think of? And it was helpful that you kind of called out some of the initial drag you may see from the duplicative costs. But can you kind of size it up, from a margin impact at least, for the next few quarters [ what ] that headwind could be?
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Timothy Boswell
Analyst
Yes, Phil. I'll start and Brad, you can supplement here. Obviously, we took about a month or so post closing the ModSpace acquisition to issue the most recent guidance so that we had a clear understanding of the revenue outlook as well as more detailed progress on the integration plan and timeline, and we're confident in the range we put forth. With any major acquisition, there are a lot of moving pieces, some known and some inevitably unknown. One example I'll point out that was obviously known, you'll recall that ModSpace historically had a higher contribution of sales of new units in the revenue than WillScot. And in Q3, we completed a major project for hurricane recovery in the U.S. Virgin Islands that contributed approximately $27 million of revenue in the quarter on a pro forma basis, and that's probably about $1.5 million of gross margin in our reported Q3 results and -- with most of the revenue booked preclose. So that's just one example of something that's in Q3 but probably wouldn't be in Q4 so much. And there are opportunities and risks on both sides of the ledger. So if we have continuing acceleration in pricing, pull-forward synergies, that would obviously help Q4. But if there is disruption on the volume side or fleet transfers or other disruptions, that could be a temporary headwind. So we take all that into account when putting together the guidance.
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
The only other bid I would add is, just to remind folks, that while idling and consolidating production to 120 branches is a significant enabler, right, the real estate is only about 20% of the cost synergies we talk about. So it is a very important step, right, which then allows us to get along with particularly some of the people reduction and the other associated cost savings so significant milestone that, in and of itself, real estate consolidations less than 20% of these cost synergies.
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Philip Ng
Analyst
That's really helpful color and that's my follow-up, Brad. The integration of ModSpace seems to be coming along quite well. What are some of the other major hurdles that we should be mindful of in next few quarters that could be something that could be a negative if execution was formed but obviously, the upside potential from a synergy standpoint ramping up a little further?
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Timothy Boswell
Analyst
My view, this is Tim, is the next major milestone is the systems cutover for the remainder of mostly the back office is the way to think about it, so our accounts receivable, accounts payable, financial systems, et cetera. So in terms of how we've planned the cadence of the integration, I think, for very good reason, we focused on the field network first and in particular the sales and operations teams in the field, getting those stabilized and organized as quickly as possible. Brad mentioned a gathering of over 500 of our colleagues in Phoenix for a sales orientation and training, which took place a couple of weeks ago and then getting the commercial team organized and working out of the same system as of November 1 is a huge deal. That means territories are organized. We've got a single method of pricing. We've got value-added products being quoted. That's a big deal, and that'll drive top line momentum we expect going into 2019. The next thing we have to do is get the rest of the systems cutover complete, and that's a early mid-Q1 event.
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
That's right.
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Philip Ng
Analyst
Perfect. And just one last one for me. Price mix has, obviously, been very strong, tracking the double-digit range on a pro forma basis. You provided some great color how to think about the VAPS piece. But how should we be thinking about some of the runway you have on the like-for-like pricing piece? Obviously, capacity utilization is picking up positively, and you've talked about how the outlook from demand is firming up as well. And obviously, the industry's gotten a little more consolidated as well. So can you kind of help size up that opportunity for us?
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
I think, first, I would say, there's still some more work to do for us in that regard. I mean, we now have all the historical transactions from Acton and the ModSpace as of closing hours. So we're running that through the price optimization, the third-party provider that we use to really make sure we understand that at the appropriate level by end-market segment, by customer type, et cetera. So there's absolutely opportunities. I mentioned before the $138 million of revenue upside is just assuming we deliver VAPS at the rate we were. It does not include further price harmonization, et cetera. So, I mean, one other way I would think about it is if we've been delivering 10%, 11%, 12% year-over-year rate growth and about half of that have been from rate, I would say, sustaining that in the 3%, 4%, 5% range is not a concern for me at this point.
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Operator
Operator
And our next question comes from Scott Schneeberger from Oppenheimer.
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Scott Schneeberger
Analyst
A fine-looking quarter for sure. The guidance maintained, you touched on a little earlier. But could you guys address the swing factors, what would put you at the high end and the low end of the 2018 guidance? And maybe, Tim, what you mentioned about ModSpace Canadian operations and how that fits in.
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Timothy Boswell
Analyst
Yes. I mean, we've touched on it a bit. Obviously, there's potentially rate upside based on the momentum that we've seen heading into the quarter. To the extent, cost synergies can be pulled forward, that could move the needle quickly. There have been -- as Brad mentioned, there's been a lot going on in the branches. So any disruption that impacts volumes, either in the U.S. or Canada, could be to the detriment. If you think about Canada, specifically, I wouldn't point to kind of integration disruption up there as like a cause for the year-over-year decline, I kind of went into the mix, the different dynamics coming from the ModSpace portfolio relative to the WillScot portfolio. And it's neither good nor bad. It's just that, that portfolio tends to have more concentration in it project-by-project. So depending on what project you're serving, your units may go on or off rent at different points in time. So I don't have any fundamental concern up there, and as you look at the Canadian metrics, you do have several sequential quarters of stability up there, which is, I think, my expectation going into the remainder of the year for that segment.
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Tim is right. I mean, what we do in rate, in volume, in the remaining month and a half of the quarter is interesting more for the next quarter than for this. It's really about the realization of cost synergies if we are able to attain those quicker than we expect or not, or we realize any delay in that.
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Timothy Boswell
Analyst
Yes. The only other thing I'd add is the sales business.
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Yes.
TB
Timothy Boswell
Analyst
That's the one piece of the business that's less easy for us to predict. And if you recall Q2, we reported kind of flat pro forma revenue in Q2, despite some really good traction in the leasing operations. That was just driven by the timing year-over-year of sale projects. And then I mentioned, ModSpace in Q3 had a single project that generated $27 million. So you do have some variability there potentially, and that is why, over the years, we've really concentrated on optimizing the leasing operations and focusing the types of sale projects that we pursue.
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Scott Schneeberger
Analyst
All right. This may be a premature question, but any greater visibility into the non-quantified incremental synergy that, beyond the $60 million that you mentioned, I recall efficiency synergies that were in the pitch, that when you announced the deal, things like efficiencies from a consolidated footprint, procurement, repair and maintenance. Any early work on that would be appreciated if you could share.
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
No, I think it's quite early to get into that. I think we've indicated our focus is combine this business safely and efficiently, right, focus on those items that are most actionable and that we can most easily control. I'd say, as we get into early next year, we will start to look at quantifying each of those, whether it's optimization of logistics or leverage with our supply partners, efficiencies as we scale these branches up. Suffice it to say, they are legitimate. And while they're not another $70 million, there's certainly some need in that -- in those opportunities. But we need a little more time. Let's stay focused on what we're doing, safely integrate these 2, get the $70 million of cost synergies behind us, get the $138 million of VAPS potential that we mentioned underway, right? And then as a normal course of business, of course, we'll always look at doing things more efficiently and cost-effectively, and we'll get into that as we look forward next year.
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Operator
Operator
And our next question comes from Ashish Sabadra from Deutsche Bank.
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Ashish Sabadra
Analyst
Congrats on the solid quarter, congrats on some great progress on the integration front as well as launching that exchange offer. So my question was more on the pricing. If I look at the U.S. Modular unit, the average pricing is $549. But as we think about what's the pricing for the units which are rented out now -- because your average is still being cracked down by units which are already in rent. So is there a way for us to think about where -- like where can this pricing go when we include all the box and pricing optimization on a unit basis? Where can that $549 go?
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Yes. So I'll start, and then Tim can [ apine ]. I'd ask -- I'd refer you back to some material we published late September of last year, it was the last time we published delivered rate information for the box itself and the VAPS. The -- if you refer back to that, I do think that's a reasonable indication as to where Williams Scotsman had been performing as a stand-alone. It's probably something you could use modeling forward. So I don't want to try to recall those numbers off the top of my head. We can take that as an off-line with you. But the $549 is inclusive of the base box itself and probably something like $140 of VAPS inside of that. The delivered rates as of September of last year on an LTM basis were substantially higher than that, and we continue to drive improvement from those levels. So we can take a look at that presentation and take this off-line.
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Timothy Boswell
Analyst
Another way to think about it, Ashish, is we've said of the 13.4% growth, 60% is coming from the modules. And so that's a 8% clip, right, which is pretty healthy in our business, and then the remainder is coming from value-added products, which you think about separately in model, that $125 million, $138 million opportunity. And what we can do with that 8% year-over-year growth rate is a function of a lot of things. It's a function of the price optimization tool, it's a function of the starting point of the portfolios we've acquired and other market factors as well. So that's the variable that will be focused on heading into next year.
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Ashish Sabadra
Analyst
And that's helpful. And maybe a question on utilization. So we saw some pretty strong utilization, particularly in the U.S. It went up to 74.9% now. Can you continue to drive utilization? And does the consolidation, the integration helps you drive further utilization?
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Absolutely. So I think, as Tim's mentioned on prior calls, our focus is not to increase the size of the fleet other than through M&A. It's to put more of the units we have on rent. Given the pulled effect of the Acton, Tyson, ModSpace and Scotsman fleet, I would say, we have more of the right type of units in the right places. As a historical reference, this business ran from 82%, I believe, back in '07, '08 when it was last public as well as, I think, I've mentioned before, we drive kind of our internal by end market, by product-type utilization towards an 85% target. So it's absolutely upside above the 75%. The business has operated there before. And I think that's absolutely a capital efficiency advantage, if you will, associated with the larger combined fleet.
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Ashish Sabadra
Analyst
That's very helpful. And maybe one final question on the ModSpace. Again, you've owned it for a very short period of time, and the sales integration just happened as of 1st November. But I was just wondering if you can share any feedback that you've received either from existing ModSpace customers, or what kind of traction have you seen on trying to sell VAPS into the ModSpace customer base?
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Yes. I'd say, it's quite early to say. We just started offering the value proposition to the new ModSpace customers about a week ago. I can say, based upon the Acton experience, it was received quite well, but we'll need a few more months to let that play out. I would say -- it's fair to say, more than half of the customers were already customers of Williams Scotsman, right? So it's not like we're dealing with an entirely new customer group that's never had the experience of the Ready to Work offering. So I'm quite confident that we'll be able to -- we'll be successful on offering that, but it's early to say. We're just a week into it.
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Operator
Operator
And our next question comes from Kevin McVeign (sic) [ Kevin McVeigh ] from Crédit Suisse.
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Kevin McVeigh
Analyst
Just one follow-up on the energy business. You did see some nice step-up. I guess, 2 things, Tim. Where do you think the monthly rental rate can go? And could you give us just a little bit of context of where that peaked in the last cycle?
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Timothy Boswell
Analyst
Okay. So we're talking about -- are you referring specifically to the other North America pricing?
KM
Kevin McVeigh
Analyst
Yes.
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Timothy Boswell
Analyst
Yes. So that's a -- it's a good question, and I'll first give you an example of about a standard size unit that would have run it in the Edmondson market back in 2013 or 2014, back when we had peak oil. That unit today in the U.S., Brad, is what, $600 a unit?
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Yes.
TB
Timothy Boswell
Analyst
A 12/60 standard unit. At peak oil up in Edmondson, given you're servicing the Fort Mac market from there, that could have been pushing $2,000 per month, per unit. So that's kind of the order of magnitude that we saw back during that cycle. Who knows if you get back there, our business is less than 60% utilized across the entire segment, and I think that's probably representative of where the competition is well. So I think it'll take some time for that to tighten up, but what we have seen in, really, I mean, the last 4, 5, 6 quarters, it looks like stabilization of average pro forma rates across that business. So any resurgence in major oil and gas activity in Western Canada and Alaska, specifically, would begin to drive that metric.
KM
Kevin McVeigh
Analyst
Got it.
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Yes. The only thing I would add, Kevin, is these pro forma rates, right, include, obviously, all of Canada. So you should really think of Canada as kind of 2 halves. Eastern Canada performs much like the U.S. So the rental rates we're experiencing there are very similar opportunity in VAPS, very similar utilization in Eastern Canada. So you kind of -- you can almost bifurcate that Canadian business from a unit-on-rent perspective into the 2 halves, and the rate opportunity, if you will, other than the organic and VAPS we're talking about in the U.S., is really the western half in Alaska, that which would be driven both -- mostly by continued oil price improvement.
KM
Kevin McVeigh
Analyst
Got it. And can you just remind us what's the split at that business between the Eastern and Western?
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
I'd say, about [ half/half ] on the unit on rent. We can give you a better figure. It's a pretty simple way to think about it.
KM
Kevin McVeigh
Analyst
All right. Awesome. And then just you've always given great detail, but with the warrants, can you just remind us what the share count will be when this is all cleaned up? And what happens if you don't get 100% participation?
TB
Timothy Boswell
Analyst
The -- I'd say, the second question it's -- we're not going to provide much more context here. But it's a voluntary offer. So really, the warrants are outstanding today. If somebody doesn't participate, they'll be outstanding in the future. If you think about the warrants that are eligible, there are 69.5 million of them, each equivalent to 1/2 a share, and all of those are included, if you look at the last page of our presentation, in the 153 million fully diluted share count. If all of those -- as we say in the filings, if all of those 69.5 million were exchanged at the exchange ratio, the underlying 34.75 million shares would become 12.6 million. So there would be that reduction of approximately 12 million shares relative to what we've presented on Slide 27.
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Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from Sean Wondrack from Deutsche Bank.
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Sean-M Wondrack
Analyst
When we think about sort of your pro forma EBITDA of about $352 million, can you kind of frame for us what is maintenance CapEx on this size of a business at this point in time?
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Timothy Boswell
Analyst
We've said that maintenance CapEx, inclusive of ModSpace, will be between $90 million and $100 million of net capital.
SW
Sean-M Wondrack
Analyst
All right. And have you had any preliminary thoughts about CapEx as we enter kind of 2019? And where do you think that will shake out?
TB
Timothy Boswell
Analyst
We think about it often. It's -- I think that's the best guidance we'll give you for now.
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Yes. The only thing I would add is, above and beyond that, we will continue to fund the VAPS growth, right? So you can think of $20 million, $25 million as a proxy there to continue the acceleration of VAPS. The maintenance capital, if you will, covers VAPS at its current level. So as we continue to expand, that will -- I mean, that's such a compelling investment, and we'll make that one.
TB
Timothy Boswell
Analyst
Yes. And just so we're heading into the budget cycle for the first time with the combined business and early in the integration. So looking at capital allocation across all the branches, all the fleet that we own, is a absolutely critical part of the integration process as we head into next year, and we're in the early stages of that.
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Sean-M Wondrack
Analyst
All right. That makes a lot of sense. And just because you mentioned it, when you think about VAPS and sort of the strengthening of VAPS, right, to your organization, what's been the response sort of from the sales force? Do they feel empowered? Is it making their job easier because they have sort of more to offer customers? Can you talk about that for a second, please?
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Yes. I can just give some anecdotal, but first, I would start with the fact that, as Tim mentioned before, ModSpace had been both engaged with third-party provider, driving rate optimization as well as driving VAPS. They were primarily using third-party arrangements for their furniture supply, but they were headed down the journey. So that's actually given us a very encouraging base to build upon. And then when we had everyone together, that was the 15th of October for that 500-person training and integration session, I would say, the reception was extremely bullish. Folks are excited about it. It does give them a very compelling value proposition, right, to take to their customers. And by the fact that we own that furniture, right, it's located in all of our 120 depots, it absolutely makes their job easier versus trying to arrange a third-party lease releases opportunity. So it's compelling value proposition for the customer. It's a lot easier for them because the furniture is already stocked in all the branches. All they have to do is lease it, right, and that drives highly accretive returns for us. So kind of a win, win, win, if you will.
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Sean-M Wondrack
Analyst
All right. That's good to hear. And then just the last one out of me. I appreciate all the Q&A on the call. When you think about sort of the industrial outlook for next year and some of your major end markets, obviously, we've had a bit of a pause and some of the momentum, at least to the stock market, et cetera. Is there anything that gives you pause as you're moving into next year, as you're talking to customers? Or have you -- do you still see a pretty relatively robust demand buy [ form ] here?
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
Very robust. Yes. There's nothing I see or feel from customers that would give me cause. Frankly, the indicators I mentioned before, there's nothing that gives us concern. The one wild part is this geopolitical black swan event, which we can't control, we don't predict. I don't expect there'd be one, but I do absolutely know what we would do if we ever experience one of those. We've got the best operating platform in the industry. We can control and cut off capital as and if needed, and we'll continue to harvest rate growth. So -- but as far as the end markets, I found the last few weeks have been interesting because there's nothing I see in any of our indicators that would support things substantially slowing or certainly turning.
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Operator
Operator
And I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Brad Soultz for closing remarks.
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Bradley Soultz
Analyst
All right. I think we've covered off all the bases. We appreciate everyone's interest in the company and look forward to speaking to many of you soon. Thank you.
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Operator
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program, and you may all disconnect. Everyone, have a wonderful day.