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Watsco, Inc. (WSO)

Q4 2014 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 12, 2015

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Transcript

Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to the Watsco Fourth Quarter and Year-End 2014 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Albert Nahmad, Chairman, President, and CEO. Please go ahead.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Good morning everyone. Welcome to our conference call. This is Albert Nahmad, President and CEO, and with me is Barry Logan and Paul Johnston. As always, we like to state the cautionary statement. This conference call has forward-looking statements as defined by SEC laws and regulations that are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of these various laws. Ultimate results may differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Now on to our results. Well, we had another great fourth quarter which completed a very strong and record setting 2014. We’ve established new records for earnings per share, net income, operating profit, operating margins, and sales. Interesting enough, we did that in 2014 even after we made substantial investments in our business. For example, we added more products. We launched new technologies. We opened new locations, and we added over 200 employees or about 5% more to our organization. We make these investments to generate more profitable sales growth, development of market share for our many manufacturing partners, and to provide a great customer experience with our 60,000 contractors that we currently serve. Our highlights for the quarter are a 38% jump in earnings per share to a record $0.69, a 30% increase in operating income to a record $52 million, a 100 basis point expansion in operating margins to a record 5.9%, a 40 basis point improvement in gross profit margins, and a 60 basis points decline in SG&A as a percentage of sales. That takes us to a record low for that item. During this quarter, sales increased 6% to a record $877 million. HVAC equipment sales increased 8%, reflecting continued strong demand for higher efficiency systems. Other HVAC products increased 2% and commercial refrigeration products increased 8%. Now, let’s take a look at the full-year highlights. A 78%…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Matt Duncan of Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Good morning, Matt.

Matt Duncan

Analyst

Good morning, Al. Congrats on a great quarter.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Thanks very much. We feel good.

Matt Duncan

Analyst

So, Al, and you made reference to this in your prepared comments, but you guys have been adding a lot of technology to the business to help your customers. Is there any way to quantify the impact you think that may be having on your market share gains right now?

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

That’s a good question, Matt, but really, I don’t think we could answer that. We don’t know. We just know that we want to be the best there is in this technology with our contractors, and we’re just at the beginning of the investment cycle, so.

Matt Duncan

Analyst

Yes, I mean, maybe one way to look at this would be, have you looked at the growth rates in the markets where you have added the technology where you can now order through the app? Are you seeing the growth rates pick up in those places as you add this technology or it is just too early to really know for sure?

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

I think it’s too early.

Matt Duncan

Analyst

Okay.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

We’re just too busy putting out more and more technology. The apps for example are constantly being updated. We’re introducing more and more tools. This is a big deal for us, and I think it will have a huge impact on the company going forward.

Matt Duncan

Analyst

Okay. In terms of equipment growth, you had another very good quarter there. Are you seeing, do you think, any impact from the efficiency standard change in the Sun Belt or is this really just sort of good market share gains and good market growth?

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

It’s the latter. I sort of expected questions about this 13 SEER thing and we don’t really focus too much on that because everything we think about every day is long term, and some of these things have a short term life, and we just deal with it as it comes but we don’t really focus too much on it.

Matt Duncan

Analyst

Sure. Okay, last thing for me on the non-controlling interest quarter. It looked like it had taken a nice increase year over year. Clearly, your carrier JVs must be doing well. Is that a function of good sales growth, are the margins showing marked improvement there? Is there anything you’d call out about what you’re seeing from the JVs?

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Barry, you want to deal with that?

Barry Logan

Analyst

Sure, Matt. Well, the JVs are performing very well across the board in all markets. So it’s just raw performance sales growth, gross profit growth, and EBIT margin growth that continues on the momentum they’ve had for the last five years. So it’s a simple, good progress on behalf of all the JVs.

Matt Duncan

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, guys.

Barry Logan

Analyst

Sure.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Josh Pokrzywinski of Buckingham Research. Please go ahead.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Good morning, Josh.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst

Good morning, Al. Just a question for me, Al, I know that obviously Canada is not an enormous part of your business, but with the currency move there and then obviously the fact that all the equipment is made in the US, can you guys talk about either the margin headwinds or pricing actions you need to take to offset that this year and maybe what you guys are pondering here in the near term on that?

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Well, all I want to say about that is Canada is a significant part of our business, and we’re doing well with it. We deal with whatever comes up. There are no issues that I can report that’s a big problem for us in Canada.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst

I get -- does that mean to say that there’s a pricing action being taken though because you do have significant currency headwinds?

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

No, those are things that I don’t want to talk about. We have a strong competition in Canada. We’re just doing well there, and things will come up on currency and kinds of things you’re talking about, but we seem to be navigating very successful and I think that should continue.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst

Okay. And then just back on some of the technology investments, should we expect that to be up again in 2015 and at what point does that start to level out and be in the comp? I know that it’s a long-term view and you guys don’t really pay attention to the year over year spend, but.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Yes, I’ll give you the best I can on that. You should see increasing investment for some time. I see no end to it, and I see increasing investment.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Walter Liptak from Global Hunter. Please go ahead.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Good morning, Walter.

Walter Liptak

Analyst

Hi, good morning, guys. Thanks for the good quarter. I wanted to ask about your inventories, it seems like some of the seasonality change this quarter where your inventories build up 60 million, and typically they go down by about that much. Is it a SEER equipment build, and I wonder if you could comment on that?

Walter Liptak

Analyst

Sure. That’s a good question, Barry or Paul, do you want to deal with that?

Barry Logan

Analyst

Yes, Paul, go ahead.

Paul Johnston

Analyst

Oh, okay. Yes, we had a slight build because of the equipment change, but it was very, very small. Most of it was just solid blocking and tackling that our people were doing on new branch ads that we’ve been putting in place as well as just balancing our inventory up to get ready for the season.

Barry Logan

Analyst

There have also been, just to add to that, there have also been some product lines that have been introduced this year that requires a build in inventory for sales in 2015. That’s part of the investment we’ve been making.

Walter Liptak

Analyst

Okay, got it. So not a lot of SEER 13 in that inventory build?

Paul Johnston

Analyst

No.

Walter Liptak

Analyst

Okay. And I think about this time of year, you don’t give guidance, but you kind of can talk about the market and what you’re thinking about for next year. Do you think next year for HVAC equipment we should see similar mid-single digit growth to what you saw this year? Is there something changing about your markets where the growth might slow.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Well, I see, as you said, the first part of that statement is, we don’t like to talk about the year because we are just -- just one month and a few days into the second quarter. And we will not mention what we think is going to happen to the industry. We don’t know. But I can tell you that I like what I see for Watsco in the first part of the year.

Walter Liptak

Analyst

Okay. Okay, fair enough. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Rohit Seth of SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Rohit Seth

Analyst

Hi, guys, great quarter.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Good morning.

Rohit Seth

Analyst

Good morning.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Thanks, yes.

Rohit Seth

Analyst

I’ve just got a quick question on the energy costs. Do you guys -- is there a substantial portion of your cost there, on the diesel fuel?

Paul Johnston

Analyst

No, it’s not a big deal.

Rohit Seth

Analyst

Not a big deal. So there won’t be any savings with it coming down so much?

Paul Johnston

Analyst

There will be savings. It’s not a material mountain mover now.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

It’s not material.

Rohit Seth

Analyst

Okay. And then could you -- you usually break this out on the US residential equipment, what was the growth there?

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Really, all markets were consistent with the overall growth rate.

Rohit Seth

Analyst

Okay. Okay, great. That’s all I had. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Ryan Merkel from William Blair & Company. Please go ahead.

Ryan Merkel

Analyst

Thanks. Very nice quarter, guys.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Good morning.

Ryan Merkel

Analyst

Good morning.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Thanks.

Ryan Merkel

Analyst

So did you talk about what drove the strong gross margins in the quarter? I might have missed it.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

We didn’t get questioned. We’ve reported what we know in the press release, the efficiency improvements.

Ryan Merkel

Analyst

So, it was driven by the mix to the higher SEER equipment?

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Mix is the very part of it, yes.

Ryan Merkel

Analyst

Okay. And then what was the growth rate of higher SEER equipment then? Was it higher than the 8% total equipment growth?

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

I don’t think we want to get into that sort of detail, Ryan.

Ryan Merkel

Analyst

Okay. And then, I guess, lastly, the OEM price increases, are those sticking in the market? I know it’s early.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Yes, yes. The answer is yes.

Ryan Merkel

Analyst

The answer is yes. Okay. Great. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

And as I see there are no other questions, I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Nahmad for any closing remarks.

Albert Nahmad

Analyst

Thanks again for being on this call and we look forward to the next call. Bye-bye.