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Woodward, Inc. (WWD)

Q4 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 16, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Woodward, Incorporated Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, I would like to inform you that this call is being recorded for rebroadcast and that all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, you are invited to participate in a question-and-answer session. Joining us today from the company are Chip Blankenship, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Bill Lacey, Chief Financial Officer; and Dan Provaznik, Director of Investor Relations. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Provaznik.

Dan Provaznik

Management

Thank you, operator. We’d like to welcome all of you to Woodward’s fourth quarter fiscal year 2023 earnings call. In today’s call, Chip will comment on our strategies and related markets. Bill will then discuss our financial results as outlined in our earnings release. And at the end of the presentation, we will take questions. For those who have not seen today's earnings release, you can find it on our website at woodward.com. We have again included some presentation materials to go along with today’s call that are also accessible on our website. An audio replay of this call will be available by phone or on our website through November 30, 2023. The phone number for the audio replay is on the press release announcing this call as well as on our website and will be repeated by the operator at the end of the call. I would like to refer to and highlight our cautionary statement as shown on Slide 3. As always, elements of this presentation are forward-looking or based on our current outlook and assumptions for the global economy and our businesses more specifically. Those elements can and do frequently change. Our forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties surrounding those elements, including the risks we identify in our filings. In addition, Woodward is providing certain non-US GAAP financial measures. We direct your attention to the reconciliations of non-US GAAP financial measures, which are included in today’s slide presentation and our earnings release and related schedules. We believe this additional financial information will help in understanding our results. Now I will turn the call over to Chip.

Chip Blankenship

Management

Thank you, Dan, and good afternoon, everyone. Improved execution coupled with robust demand and progress on our strategic priorities delivered strong top line growth in fiscal 2023. Our focus on improving operations resulted in increased output which allowed us to serve customers better and deliver enhanced margins. I would like to thank our team members for their hard work in a challenging environment, their commitment to Woodward and our customers, resulted in a strong finish to fiscal 2023 and frankly a strong start to our fiscal 2024. As anticipated, the strategic investments we've made to strengthen our supply chain resulted in significant improvements in the second half of the year, a robust supplier escalation process proactively identifies at risk suppliers and creates mitigation plans to ensure continuity of supply. Our rapid response machining centers are working as designed and we continue to leverage our machining capabilities to offload suppliers, and our internal shops as they run into short-term capacity constraints. Woodward's full engagement in proactive problem solving with our suppliers has vastly improved the stability and performance of our supply base has become integral to our overall supply chain management process. We believe we are well-positioned to deliver on future demand. Earlier in the year, we streamlined the Aerospace and Industrial segments and added experienced leadership to the company to accelerate our lean transformation. We integrated the turbine and reciprocating engines business units into one Industrial business. We reduced structural costs and achieved pricing to offset significant inflation. We initiated a product portfolio rationalization effort, which focused on pruning lower performing products to both simplify operations and improve profitability overall. Through the fiscal year end, we eliminated approximately 18,000 SKUs. While these were relatively easy actions to take, the next wave will require more finesse and a customer connected approach…

Bill Lacey

Management

Thank you, Chip, and good afternoon to everyone. Net sales for fiscal fourth quarter were $777 million, an increase of 21%. Net sales for fiscal year 2023 were $2.91 billion, an increase of 22%. The increases in the quarter and full year were driven by continued strong demand across most of our end markets, increased output resulting from the strategic investments we've made in the business and price realization. Aerospace segment sales for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2023 were $455 million, compared to $408 million, an increase of 11%. Commercial OEM and aftermarket sales were up 19% and 21%, respectively, driven by higher OEM production rates, continued growth in both domestic and international passenger traffic, increasing aircraft utilization and price realization. Defense OEM sales were down 13% in the quarter, primarily due to lower sales of guided weapons. Defense aftermarket sales were up 18%. Aerospace segment earnings for the fourth quarter of 2023 were $78 million, or 17.2% of segment sales, compared to $63 million, or 15.5% of segment sales. The increase in segment earnings was primarily a result of price realization, higher commercial OEM and aftermarket volume and productivity gains partially offset by inflation and higher annual incentive compensation. For fiscal year 2023, Aerospace segment sales were $1.77 billion, compared to $1.52 billion for the prior year, an increase of 16%. Aerospace segment earnings for fiscal year 2023 were $290 million, or 16.4% of segment sales, compared to $231 million, or 15.2% of segment sales for the prior year. Turning to Industrial. Industrial segment sales for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2023 were $322 million, compared to $232 million, an increase of 39%. The increase was driven by higher volumes across all markets as well as price realization. In the fourth quarter sales for on-highway natural gas truck…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Scott Mikus from Melius Research. Research. Please state your question.

Scott Mikus

Analyst

Hi, Chip. I was wondering, the balance sheet is pretty solid, LEAP and GTF shop visits are going to be ramping up. So you should have a lot of cash flow growth over the next few years. So I'm just wondering what are your latest thoughts on capital deployment? And then if you're thinking about M&A, is there a preference for aerospace or general industrial?

Chip Blankenship

Management

Good afternoon, Scott. Good to hear from you. So we are looking at that cash generation opportunity. And like we shared before, we are taking a balanced view on capital allocation. You can see that we are inching up the -- the capital expenditure planning to take advantage of things that we believe are high return opportunities in automation and other margin expansion opportunities inside our factories and supply chain. And we are looking at all the other levers and capital allocation in a balanced way. We are very active in terms of looking for really outstanding strategic fits of companies to consider for acquisition opportunities, but we don't have anything specific to discuss at this time. But we remain very active there to make sure that we can take advantage of high return opportunities that are great fits with the company.

Scott Mikus

Analyst

Okay. And then I have a question for Bill. It looks like the Aerospace segment missed the low end of the margin guide by about 20 bps for the full year. And I think if my math is correct, the commercial OE sales were down quarter-over-quarter. So I was just wondering if you could provide a little bit of color on that?

Bill Lacey

Management

Sure. Thanks for the question. Again, as you know, our Aero business in Q4, overall, our business had a strong quarter on top line with 21%. Q3 was even stronger at 30%, Scott. And as we -- sorry [indiscernible]. And so when we talk about our Q3 specifically, some of that strong growth is attributed to a new component that achieved certification. And the customer demand was steeped. And at that point in time, we recognized a lot of the initial production. And over time, we will achieve a more stable rate. So it was really that strong Q3 in Aero and a little bit of timing that caused us to miss that kind of quarter-over-quarter sales. But again, it was a very strong quarter for Aero.

Scott Mikus

Analyst

Okay. Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Scott Deuschle from Deutsche Bank. Please state your question.

Scott Deuschle

Analyst

Hey, good afternoon.

Chip Blankenship

Management

Good afternoon, Scott.

Scott Deuschle

Analyst

Bill, I think you're guiding to higher incremental margins at Aerospace in 2024 than what you did in 2023. So I was wondering if you can talk a bit about what enables that higher incremental margin rate? Thank you.

Bill Lacey

Management

Sure. As we -- we'll get into a little bit more of that, Scott, as we get into our Investor Relations -- our Investor Day on December 7. But again, as we look at the strong markets in the commercial side and the volume there, that will definitely help in that guide as we head to 2024.

Chip Blankenship

Management

And Scott, just to add a little bit to that. We've deployed a lot of effort into the lean transformation. We anticipate -- plus the learning curve of these newer teammates. So we anticipate continuing to get cost out of our operations. We are actually facing a little bit of a mixed headwind from '23 to '24 as the strong OE demand and the build rates dictate that we'll have to sort of rise to that occasion. But we still anticipate, with our strong lean transformation programs being able to generate productivity. And we have some pricing year-over-year that we are also counting on.

Scott Deuschle

Analyst

Okay. Yes. And just on that last point, I think last year, when we got the guide, you gave a sense for what those price realizations would be. And so I was wondering if you can say what you expect that price realization number to be this upcoming year in fiscal '24?

Chip Blankenship

Management

We are not ready to do that just yet, Scott. But we will -- we anticipate to improve. We are also facing some inflation in the supply chain. So not able to share more of that right now.

Scott Deuschle

Analyst

Okay. And then last question, is the revenue from guided weapons at trough yet?

Bill Lacey

Management

We continue to look at that. In Q4, we are expecting it to reach that point. And so we will continue to see how that all goes. But in 2024, yes, we expect it to hit its trough.

Scott Deuschle

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sheila Kahyaoglu from Jefferies. Please state your question.

Sheila Kahyaoglu

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon, guys.

Chip Blankenship

Management

Hi, Sheila.

Sheila Kahyaoglu

Analyst

So I wanted to ask for that Industrial -- hi. You gave great color there in the prepared remarks. You also mentioned $50 million of sales from China natural gas sales and normalized margins in the mid teens. So I guess two-part question on this Industrial margin. When you back that out, it implies about 50% drop through on the China business. I guess, is that fair to say? What are you assuming on China natural gas sales for 2024? And what do we think drives the core business to mid teens given you've averaged about 10% over the last decade?

Bill Lacey

Management

Yes. Hey, Sheila, thanks for the question. Yes, into our prepared remarks, we did discuss that we did hit our historically quarterly peak of around $50 million. And so that's kind of where we are willing to discuss. We also, as it relates to OH, continue to feel that it's a very volatile business. And we discussed what we were willing to include in our 2024 guide. So we felt like we provided some, as you said, some increased detail on OH, and we are going to leave it at that for now.

Sheila Kahyaoglu

Analyst

So I guess …

Chip Blankenship

Management

Just to get to the rest of your question, Sheila, the underlying performance of the other product lines and components of the Industrial business, we are seeing good improvement on the operations. And we've had some strong pricing on long-term agreements come through over the past year that we believe will connect for us over the next term and provide that lift to margins in the Industrial business.

Sheila Kahyaoglu

Analyst

Okay. And then just sticking to Industrial then, I guess, what drives the biggest deceleration year-over-year on the top line, in your view? Can you go through the bits of what you've kind of baked into those -- that assumption?

Bill Lacey

Management

Yes. Again, as we spoke, Sheila, about our -- the way we are assuming China on-highway business in 2024 is near historical sales in the first quarter, minimum amount in the remainder of the year.

Sheila Kahyaoglu

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Pete Skibitski from Alembic Global Advisors. Please state your question.

Pete Skibitski

Analyst

Hey, good afternoon, guys. Nice quarter.

Chip Blankenship

Management

Thanks, Pete.

Pete Skibitski

Analyst

Just a follow-up on Sheila's question again on -- as it relates to China CNG. So should we -- given that one quarter will have an ongoing kind of peak level of China CNG in it, is the first quarter going to be the high revenue and margin quarter for the year for Industrial?

Chip Blankenship

Management

We don't know the answer to that, Pete. I mean that's just what we are honestly trying to say is that we have visibility to orders in the first quarter that we think we can count on shipping. Past that, it's upside opportunity for us. We are positioning our supply chain to try and be able to deliver that on a sustainable way if that demand continues. But what we are forecasting and kind of committing to guidance wise is just what we can see. Does that make sense?

Pete Skibitski

Analyst

Right. Yes. Yes, there's no downside risk from China CNG in your guidance, it's only kind of upside opportunity, I think is what you're saying.

Chip Blankenship

Management

That's what we are trying to say. And also, really all of our end markets that we are serving, we believe we'll have growth in sales. And so that's …

Pete Skibitski

Analyst

Okay.

Chip Blankenship

Management

… kind of -- it looks good to us, but we just don't want to get out in front of ourselves with our experience on the China OH before.

Pete Skibitski

Analyst

Okay. And just one follow-up for me on the marine market. It seems like China exports are slowing and Europe, especially Germany seems pretty weak in terms of growth. So I'm trying to understand what's driving the strength in the marine market. Are we just sort of going through kind of a replacement cycle for aftermarket demand? Can you shed any color on that market and the visibility you have?

Chip Blankenship

Management

Yes. I mean there are a lot of subsegments to that market. There's cruise ships, there's ferries and like you said, the container ships. And there's auxiliary engines and there's main engines. And so when you look at what Woodward's scope of supply is, we've got a lot of places that can still be growing even if China freight drops off or the pricing changes and makes people have a little less utilization on that specific submarket.

Pete Skibitski

Analyst

Okay. Okay, great. Thanks guys.

Chip Blankenship

Management

Yes. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Christopher Glynn from Oppenheimer. Please state your question.

Christopher Glynn

Analyst

Hey. Good afternoon, Chip, Bill, Dan. I was curious if you could go a little bit deeper into what you're seeing into the defense markets. I know you expect procurement to increase, that's pretty straight. You also mentioned to expect R&D to increase. Does that refer to internal and external? And what are kind of the 2024 drivers and longer term next couple of years that you're seeing as defense demand starts to take a little shape here?

Chip Blankenship

Management

So we've seen -- I think I said this in the last quarterly call as well. We've seen an increase in quote activity requests for Woodward to quote components and subsystems and systems for different types of defense vehicles. We've seen that activity go up in terms of the number of quotes we get, and we've also seen the urgency and the turning of those quotes go faster than in recent times. So not really referring to IRAD, our internal R&D, that's pretty stable in terms of our platform development. But as far as specific customer requests, we've seen that increase and hold steady at an increased rate.

Christopher Glynn

Analyst

Okay, great. And just taking a look at big picture, you have new management team working on lots of execution and portfolio streamlining. How is everything coming together? I mean, it looks great. But from a cultural perspective, middle-level managers, how is that translating down from the C-suite?

Chip Blankenship

Management

These things always take time, Chris. But what I've been really pleased with is the lean transformation activities when we engage a full team of these 30 plus people in value stream analysis. We have -- that team includes frontline operators, first-level supervisors. It includes supplier managers, customer service reps, plant -- entire VP of Operations, plant managers, and I even participated in one. So we are sort of doing the full-on engagement approach to moving the needle from that focus on reducing lead times and serving customers better and eliminating waste. And so far so good on that. But these things take time, and it will take a multiyear journey to get where we want to go, just to be candid.

Christopher Glynn

Analyst

Yes. Great. Well, it sounds like you have four very productive processes two under -- at each segment underway. Is that something where you develop leaders and muscle memory and you have 8 or 10 of them in '24 and 15 or 20 in '25. Is that a reasonable way to think about it?

Chip Blankenship

Management

Yes, sir, you've seen this movie before. And each one of these activities before a value stream can qualify to be under transformation, they need to be able to identify 3% of dedicated resources that are going to be with that activity for a year. And so it takes a lot of pre-work. And like you said, we then generate leaders that have been through the process to take on the next one.

Christopher Glynn

Analyst

Great. Thanks for your explanations.

Chip Blankenship

Management

Thanks much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Strauss from Barclays. Please state your question.

David Strauss

Analyst

Thanks. Good afternoon, everyone.

Chip Blankenship

Management

Good afternoon, David.

Bill Lacey

Management

Hey, David.

David Strauss

Analyst

Chip, you mentioned the headwind that you'll have on the Aero margin side from higher OE growth. Could you give a little bit more granularity in terms of what you're forecasting within that 10% to 14% for Aero between OE aftermarket and then maybe just defense bucketed altogether?

Chip Blankenship

Management

Yes. This is the kind of headwind that we really like because from a long-term perspective, we are creating an installed base that will pay back dividends over time. So it's the kind of headwind we'll take every time. I don't think I'm prepared to break down exactly how that works. And really, to some extent, it will play out over time, and we'll be able to demonstrate our ability to hit those rates and -- throughout the whole supply chain. So I'd be premature to say exactly what it is because I really don't know exactly how it's going to turn out. But I just want people to know that it's a good headwind, and that's something we are going to overcome with margin expansion on both the OE side based on our productivity and investment in getting costs out of those products as well as work in the aftermarket as well as we can.

David Strauss

Analyst

Okay. And then on guided weapons, it sounds like you're expecting at the bottom here, but I mean, should we -- are you expecting that business to start growing again given what's going on, like with JDAM and small diameter bomb, would you actually expect that business or do you plan for that business to start growing again?

Chip Blankenship

Management

We don't really have any expectations of that. And we have no firm information along those lines, but customers have called us and asked us about our capacity and ability to respond and we've done our homework with our supply chain to make sure our suppliers can respond. And if it does crank up a higher order rate, then we'll be ready for that. But as of now, we have no orders to move in that direction.

David Strauss

Analyst

Okay. And then last one for me, I think, for Bill. It looks like you're -- I can't tell a guide, but it does look like your free cash flow guide, cash from ops guide for next year includes some sort of working capital headwind, it looks like. Could you just elaborate on what exactly you have assumed from a working capital perspective? Thanks.

Bill Lacey

Management

Yes. In our working capital, we are seeing our inventory -- working capital is actually going to be pretty good. Not a -- it's not going to be a heavy impact, David. AR, we will expect to see some of that will be a bit of a challenge there going up as sales go up. And so that will offset some of the other areas and is the headwind that you're seeing there in working capital.

David Strauss

Analyst

Okay. Thanks very much.

Bill Lacey

Management

You're welcome.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gavin Parsons from UBS. Please state your question.

Gavin Parsons

Analyst

Thanks. Good afternoon.

Chip Blankenship

Management

Good afternoon, Gavin.

Bill Lacey

Management

Hey, Gavin.

Gavin Parsons

Analyst

Can you just talk a little bit about how you position the China truck business to reduce margin volatility if demand does fall off?

Chip Blankenship

Management

Well, there's really no way to position it to reduce volatility if demand falls off. We are just trying to say that when demand is strong, it's a profitable, good business. And when demand is not strong, we fall below a certain level. It's a bit of a drag on the overall Industrial segment. And so, we are trying to have enough levers in our planning process that we are able to deal with that as it comes through. And that's how we planned 2024 is delivering at that peak volume type of level in the first quarter. The other quarters we planned and are ready to deliver on all of our other product lines into all of our other end markets and make that plan.

Gavin Parsons

Analyst

Got it. Great. And then maybe just in terms of your price strategy, you've talked about kind of value pricing. Where are we today in terms of getting price just as inflation pass-through versus implementing your value pricing strategy?

Chip Blankenship

Management

We are pretty early in the days in terms of value pricing strategy. I think that really comes into play on new product introductions where we are able to provide a component or a system to a customer that provides more value than the last system does. And so that's where that muscle comes into play and confidence comes into play. As far as our current portfolio, we have opportunity in the aftermarket in some product lines to price for value there, where our products are highly differentiated, to have plenty of IP in them to deliver value compared to more standard parts that are more of a commodity. We don't -- aren't able to command that type of value pricing in the aftermarket. So that's how I think about it right now. But as far as really developing that capability, it's going to be applied mostly to the new products.

Gavin Parsons

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gautam Khanna from TD Cowen. Please state your question.

Gautam Khanna

Analyst

Yes. Hi. Thanks. I was wondering at the Investor Day, what might be different in your presentation this year than in prior years? Like what -- can you just give us a sneak preview into what you guys anticipate discussing?

Chip Blankenship

Management

A sneak preview. Gautam, I love your questions. You've always got something for us. I guess the sneak preview is that you're going to see more players on the stage. And folks are going to talk about their businesses. Experts are going to talk a little bit about their products and what value they provide to customers. And I truly believe we'll tell a compelling story, just like we did last time about the exciting content that we have on, for example, narrow body aircraft that is going to pay dividends long into the future and that our Industrial alternate fuel solutions are going to be highly valuable no matter which way our customers and energy sources go in the future.

Gautam Khanna

Analyst

Thanks. And I was wondering if you could talk about visibility in the industrial market outside of CNG, where you've guided -- obviously, Q2, a lot lower [indiscernible] that business. How do you feel about the other major product categories and end markets to reciprocating engines and what have you.

Chip Blankenship

Management

It still feels relatively strong, Gautam. It feels like from the demand for standby power remains strong. The equipment businesses in mining and agriculture remains strong. Marine remains mostly strong, per my earlier comments. We haven't received any market softening signals from our customers. We've received some signals to reduce or push out orders in marine. But we feel like that signal was largely due to some over ordering. Now with relatively better confidence in the supply chain, it's normalizing as well as, we think, end of the calendar year inventory management. So we feel like every signal that we test in the marine, oil and gas and power generation markets still feed back to us that they want us to deliver at the rates we are projecting. And we still have past due that we are trying vigorously to burn down.

Gautam Khanna

Analyst

Thank you.

Chip Blankenship

Management

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Louis Raffetto from Wolfe Research. Please state your question.

Louis Raffetto

Analyst

Hey, good evening, guys. How are you?

Chip Blankenship

Management

[Indiscernible]

Louis Raffetto

Analyst

Good. I apologize, I may have missed some of these, but did you tell us what the full pricing was? I know you had upped it from 5% to 7%. Did you actually say what it end up being for the year?

Dan Provaznik

Management

No. No, we did not, Louis, did not give that update.

Louis Raffetto

Analyst

Can you give it? Or we have to wait for the -- okay.

Bill Lacey

Management

We'll say we met what we discussed and exceeded it.

Louis Raffetto

Analyst

Okay. And then I guess just for you, Bill, the tax step up, what's driving that step-up in '24?

Bill Lacey

Management

Yes. As we see our earnings increase, Louis, we are -- our tax rate increases along with that. And so that's really the key driver there is the increased earnings.

Louis Raffetto

Analyst

All right. And then one more, just I may missed it, the step up in CapEx.

Bill Lacey

Management

Yes. Yes. On the CapEx piece here, we continue, again, as we talk about our capital allocation and where we can get returns, we see that in an area where we have automation opportunities, we want to continue to invest in our -- in the maintenance of our machines to continue to drive productivity as well as safety. So that's really what -- where we are looking at investing in our CapEx increase.

Louis Raffetto

Analyst

Okay. And then just last one. I know you gave the growth for the end markets in Industrial, but did you have the segment growth numbers for the year? For reciprocating engines in Industrial machinery?

Bill Lacey

Management

No, no, don't have that. We did not give that.

Dan Provaznik

Management

And Louis, just for the end of the year -- this is Dan Provaznik, you'll see in our K tomorrow, we are going to be making a switch and showing that information in our K based on the three markets: transportation, oil and gas and power generation.

Chip Blankenship

Management

It really reflects how we are running the business now.

Louis Raffetto

Analyst

Makes sense. Thank you very much.

Chip Blankenship

Management

Welcome.

Chip Blankenship

Management

You're welcome.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gavin Parsons from UBS. Please state your question.

Gavin Parsons

Analyst

Hey, guys. Thanks for the follow-up. Again, just one housekeeping. What is the Industrial book-to-bill for the year?

Chip Blankenship

Management

I don't think we have that in front of us, Gavin.

Gavin Parsons

Analyst

Okay. No worries. The K is coming out really great.

Chip Blankenship

Management

Yes. It's strong. We are receiving lots of -- plenty of orders to cover our build rates, but I guess I can't quote you a number in a fraction right now.

Gavin Parsons

Analyst

No worries. I'll wait. And then it looks like no buyback implied in the share count? I know we talked about capital deployment at the beginning of the call, but are you assuming you accumulate cash throughout the year?

Bill Lacey

Management

Yes. Right. Gavin, we don't assume that through the year, and we'll just continue to monitor it and make decisions as we go as it relates to share buybacks.

Gavin Parsons

Analyst

Okay. Thanks again.

Chip Blankenship

Management

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

Mr. Blankenship, there are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the conference back to you.

Chip Blankenship

Management

Thank you, and thanks to everyone for joining us today. As a reminder, our Investor Day is scheduled for December 7 in New York City, and I look forward to seeing you there and sharing more at that time. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the conference call today. If you would like to listen to a rebroadcast of this conference call, it will be available today at 7:30 p.m. Eastern Time by dialing 1-800-770-2030 for a U.S. call or 1-647-362-9199 for a non-U.S. call and by entering the access code 4278216. A rebroadcast will also be available at the company's website, www.woodward.com for 14 days. We thank you for your participation on today's conference call and ask that you please disconnect your line.