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Xcel Brands, Inc. (XELB)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, May 18, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Please be advised that reproduction of this call in whole or in part is not permitted without prior authorization of Xcel Brands. And as a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Andrew Berger of SM Berger & Company. Thank you. Andrew, you may now begin.

Andrew Berger

Management

Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us, and welcome to the Xcel Brands First Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. We greatly appreciate your participation and interest. With us on the call today are Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Robert D'Loren; Chief Financial Officer, Jim Haran; and Executive Vice President of Business Development and Treasury, Seth Burroughs. By now, everyone should have access to the earnings release for the first quarter ended March 31, 2023, which went out today. And in addition, the company filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission its quarterly report on Form 10-Q earlier today as well. The release and the quarterly report will be available on the company's website at www.xcelbrands.com. This call is being webcast, and a replay will be available on the company's Investor Relations website. Before we begin, please keep in mind that this call will contain forward-looking statements. All forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from certain expectations discussed here today. These risk factors are explained in detail in the company's most recent annual report filed with the SEC. Xcel Brands does not undertake any obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. The dynamic nature of the current macroeconomic environment means that what is set on this call could change materially at any time. Finally, please note that on today's call, management will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, including non-GAAP net income, non-GAAP diluted earnings per share and adjusted EBITDA. Our management uses these non-GAAP metrics as measures of operating performance to assist in comparing performance from period to period on a consistent basis and to identify business trends relating to the company's results of operations. Our management believes these financial performance measurements are also useful because they measure -- these measures adjust for certain costs and other events that management believes are not representative of our core business operating results. And thus, they provide supplemental information to assist investors in evaluating the company's financial results. These non-GAAP measures should not be considered in isolation or as alternatives to net income, earnings per share or any other measure of financial performance calculated and presented in accordance with GAAP. You may refer to the attachment to the company's earnings release or Part 1, Item 2 of the Form 10-Q for a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures. And now, I'm pleased to introduce Robert D'Loren, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Bob, please go ahead.

Robert D'Loren

Management

Thank you, Andrew. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I would like to start today's call with a discussion of our strategic transformation efforts. After that, our CFO, Jim Haran, will discuss our first quarter financial results in more detail. In the first quarter of 2023, we began a restructure of our business operation shifting from a wholesale licensing hybrid model to a high-touch licensing and live stream DTC business model with the ultimate goal of transforming our company into a modern asset-light and highly profitable live stream media and consumer products company. We expect the transition of our operating businesses to be substantially complete by the end of the second quarter of 2023. In summary, as a result of all of our restructuring efforts going forward, we expect to save approximately $13 million in operating expenses on an annualized basis, including approximately $6 million of reduced payroll costs and $7 million in lower operating cost. These cost savings started to be realized in the first quarter of 2023 and are expected to be substantially realized by the end of the second quarter of 2023. Our current financial forecast indicates that we will return to profitability this year to effectuate this transformation we have engaged with best-in-class business partners and entered into multiple new licensing agreements for which I will provide more details. We believe that the evolution of our operating model through these new arrangements powered by extraordinary live stream and social commerce technology will provide our company a competitive advantage and with significant cost savings going forward and allow us to reduce and better manage our exposure to operating risks while providing our customers with exceptional quality at attractive prices. Also, we believe our live stream technology will enable us to fully engage with and…

James Haran

Management

Thanks, Bob, and good evening, everyone. I will briefly discuss our financial results for the quarter ended March 31, 2023. Total revenue for the first quarter of 2023 was $6.1 million representing a decrease of approximately $2.7 million from the prior year quarter, but an increase of approximately $2 million from the fourth quarter of 2022. The year-over-year revenue decline from the prior year quarter compared with the current quarter was driven by a $3.7 million decrease in licensing revenue, primarily attributable to the sale of a majority interest in the Isaac Mizrahi brand in May 2022, and was partially offset by an increase of approximately $1 million in net sales, largely due to the sale of our C Wonder apparel inventory to HSN as part of the restructuring and transformation of our business operating model. On a sequential quarter basis, the increase in revenues from the prior year quarter to the current quarter was mainly driven by the sale of our C Wonder apparel and along with increased royalties from the Lori Goldstein brand on QVC. Gross profit margin from product sales decreased from approximately 40% in the first quarter of 2022 to approximately 30% in the current quarter. In conjunction with the exiting the wholesale operation portion of our business, and transitioning to production, sourcing, logistics and inventory management for our brands to best-in-class partners included liquidating inventory, which was primarily attributable to lower gross margin percentages. Our operating costs and expenses were $8.8 million for the current quarter, down by $1.3 million from $10.1 million in the prior year quarter. This decrease was primarily attributable to lower salaries and other operating costs related to the Isaac Mizrahi brand and reductions in staffing levels during the current quarter related to the restructuring and transformation of our business operating…

Robert D'Loren

Management

Thank you, Jim. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our prepared remarks. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from the line of Howard Brous with Wellington Shields.

Howard Brous

Analyst

Thank you. Robert, first of all, I want to congratulate you on the significant changes and the vast opportunities that you are presenting to us. I have just a few questions. Clearly, the cash payments advance, will that be disclosed other than in the subsequent 10-Q?

Robert D'Loren

Management

It will be in a follow-up 8-K, Howard.

Howard Brous

Analyst

Okay. Using Halston as an example, do you have any other significant opportunities in the works like Halston?

Robert D'Loren

Management

So we have several new brands in our pipeline. We are in the process of launching something with Christie Brinkley on HSN and other similar celebrities on QVC, two on QVC, one more on HSN. Our Christian Siriano launch with our C Wonder Brand on HSN is off to a great start, Howard. We did 130% of better than planned on the first TS launch show. And all of Christian's shows so far have been quite strong. So we look forward to these new businesses with both HSN and QVC. And of course, now with our own live stream platform, we will be selling product directly, live streaming with the celebrities that are working on our brands. And just to add to that, we expect a significant increase in the Halston business under our new license agreement, and we expect to announce who we have done this with in early June.

Howard Brous

Analyst

So looking at live streaming, do you have any competition right now in live streaming for these types of brands?

Robert D'Loren

Management

Well, there's competition that comes from interactive television. There's competition from a lot of retailers that have been trying live streaming, but I don't believe that there's any competitor out there that is working with a complete ecosystem from a technology perspective, quite the way it's being done in Asia, and that's the tack that we've built. So we are excited to be able to have this now complete and get it launched.

Howard Brous

Analyst

You talked about positive EBITDA towards the end of the year. You have a research report done by a lovely lady-named Debra Fiakas, Crystal Equity Research. And in her research model, she talks about -- and I'm talking about 2024 and I know you don't give guidance, but are you comfortable, that's the only word I want to use with her numbers for 2024, talking about '25 and -- go ahead.

Robert D'Loren

Management

There are two analysts that cover us Howard, Sidoti and Debra. We're comfortable with the guidance that they've put out there. And we expect that the company will return to profitability in Q4 of this year and then generate significant EBITDA compared to what we will be reporting for the entire year of '23 going into '24 and beyond. As you know, we've been able to eliminate $13 million of overhead. Our target was $10 million. We exceeded that by $3 million, and we believe there may be a little more that we can take out without disrupting the business.

Howard Brous

Analyst

Again, best of luck, and congratulations on the significant changes you just created here. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Anthony Lebiedzinski with Sidoti.

Anthony Lebiedzinski

Analyst · Sidoti.

Yes. So certainly a lot of changes here ahead. So as far as the first quarter results, so revenue did come in better than what we had expected which was nice to see. It looks like most of the upside came from better-than-expected wholesale revenue. I know you talked about selling a good chunk of inventory, the C Wonder to HSN. So how much of that $3.8 million in wholesale sales was actually attributable to the C Wonder sales to HSN?

James Haran

Management

It's Jim. It was a little bit over half of our sales for the quarter were from C Wonder to HSN. And as we communicated, that we're now going to be licensing that component at the end of this year. So this was just a transition of the C Wonder business with HSN to...

Robert D'Loren

Management

Just as a point of reference, Anthony. C Wonder launched in late March on HSN. So what you're seeing is really just...

James Haran

Management

Right. So there's two pieces there. There's a royalty piece and then there's wholesales that we'll still continue to have wholesales into the second quarter. And those products then we sold in HSN will be receiving royalties on the retail sales of that product.

Anthony Lebiedzinski

Analyst · Sidoti.

And then so when I look at the balance sheet for inventory at the end of the first quarter, it was $3.1 million. So it was actually up sequentially from fiscal year-end. So now -- so I guess, first, so just looking at the first quarter ending inventory, what is that left? I mean, obviously, you sold off a good chunk to HSN. But -- so what's left now in the inventory? And then, how do we think about inventories by the end of the second quarter? And then by the end of the fiscal year, will there be much in terms of inventory left?

Robert D'Loren

Management

No. We sold 100% of our jewelry inventory in the JTV transaction so…

James Haran

Management

So which represented more than half our inventory.

Robert D'Loren

Management

Which was half the inventory position, so that is gone. And we expect by the end of June, we will have any apparel inventory.

Anthony Lebiedzinski

Analyst · Sidoti.

Okay. Got you. Okay. All right. And then, so as far as the annualized cost savings, I know you talked about increasing that from $10 million to $13 million. So have you been able to -- I just wanted to get a bit an understanding where is the additional $3 million coming from? And it sounds like that might be a tack conservative. So just wanted to get a better explanation for that?

Robert D'Loren

Management

So the cuts came $6 million from salaries and $7 million from operating overhead and within the salaries, it's primarily people who were involved in the wholesale businesses. And to some extent, some of our e-com businesses, including warehouse people, logistics, sourcing, team members, merchants, designers and then in operating overhead, a lot of warehousing shipping, inventory, marketing. So those expenses will no longer be part of our operating cost, and that's where most of the savings comes from.

Anthony Lebiedzinski

Analyst · Sidoti.

Got it. Okay. And then as far as the Longaberger brand in one of the prior filings you guys talked about possibly looking at divesting that, is that still on the table? Or have you reconsidered that?

Robert D'Loren

Management

We're exploring it with what we -- in an ideal world, we'd like Longaberger to be part of our live stream marketplace, and we're exploring either divesting it and bringing it into our marketplace or licensing it out to an operator where they can operate and be part of our marketplace. The plan for the marketplace is to be focused on fashion, home and jewelry.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your next question comes from the line of Debra Fiakas with Crystal Equity Research.

Debra Fiakas

Analyst · Crystal Equity Research.

Thank you. So I appreciate the questions that were asked by the previous two participants, particularly in regard to the pretty significant increase in the savings that you expect. And if I -- I just want to clarify, this jump from an estimated $10 million to $13 million is largely due to salaries? Maybe if you could give us an idea of what your personnel force will look like, say, at the end of June or at the end of October or September, I should say?

Robert D'Loren

Management

Sure. We -- pre-transition, we were at about 95 people in our New York office and 6 outside traveling salespeople. And post June 30, we will be 40 people in New York. So a lot of the savings came from the cuts that we made that were all associated with supporting the wholesale businesses. And that's where we will be and we don't see any disruption in the business. All but a few of those people are gone. There will be a few that will leave by the end of June.

James Haran

Management

And then a part of the additional cost was the opportunity of the new Halston license. We were able to accelerate some of the costs associated with that business. So we're able to take advantage of that in 2023.

Debra Fiakas

Analyst · Crystal Equity Research.

Okay. Excellent. Well, I understand a little better now. And then I wanted to move on and you've already mentioned in your opening remarks and a little bit in the Q&A, your agreement regarding Halston. And it seems like 25 years is a long time, I mean this day and age. What is it -- I know we'll all eventually know who this master licensee is. But just for now, could you give us an idea of what it is about this licensee that gives you confidence that, one, they're good for their guarantees. They've guaranteed some minimum royalty payments. And that they have -- what is it that's going to allow them to increase your sales volume so dramatically? If you could maybe give us a little bit of a hint as to what you saw in them.

Robert D'Loren

Management

If history is any indicator of what's likely to happen, they have a track record of building multibillion dollar brands.

Debra Fiakas

Analyst · Crystal Equity Research.

Okay. So we'll see a good track record and they have a history of making their payments and so forth, so we can trust them with this 25-year term?

Robert D'Loren

Management

Yes. They are an industry tighten.

Debra Fiakas

Analyst · Crystal Equity Research.

Okay. Very good. I do have one additional question. That's in regard to just comments that you made related to your own efforts to reach your consumers, reach your customers. You mentioned social commerce technology. And you also mentioned your live stream technology that you're going to deploy for Longaberger. I wondered if you could give us a little bit of color on what this technology is? How does that set you apart from what the next brand owner is doing?

Robert D'Loren

Management

There's two things that are happening in the industry today. One. Short-form video content is winning. And the retail model is shifting from the one-to-many model to the many-to-many model. Amazon announced two weeks ago that they are now shifting to the many-to-many model. And by that, what I mean is the industry going forward, will rely on converting everyday customers into paid influencers. And it will be a business driven by sales by many people as opposed to one entity that is pushing product via either static images or short-form video content. And there aren't a lot of tech platforms that, one, can provide the everyday shopper or an influencer with the technology that they need. Think of it as a shoppable version of TikTok with appropriate reporting and the ability for brands to do the same thing in terms of converting whatever content they have into short-form video content. Clearly, we believe, and it's not just us, it's others that are conducting research in the sector that the future will be all about short-form video content and harnessing the power of shoppers and influencers to sell product.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back to Mr. D'Loren for closing remarks.

Robert D'Loren

Management

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for all of your time this evening. We greatly appreciate your continued interest and support in Xcel Brands. As always, stay fit, eat well and be healthy.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference call for today. You may all disconnect, and thank you for participating.