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DENTSPLY SIRONA Inc. (XRAY)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Fri, Mar 2, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Dentsply Sirona, Incorporated fourth quarter and year-end 2017 earnings call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn things over to Mr. Josh Zable, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Josh Zable

President

Thank you and good morning everyone. Welcome to our fourth quarter 2017 conference call. I would like to remind you that an earnings press release and presentation is available on our website at www.dentsplysirona.com. Before we begin, please take a moment to read the forward-looking statement on slide two and three of our earnings slide presentation. During today's conference call, we will make certain predictive statements that reflect our current views about our future performance and financial results. We base these statements on certain assumptions and expectations of future events that are subject to risks and uncertainties. Our most recent Form 10-K and Form 10-Q lists some of our most important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from our predictions. And, with that, I will now turn the program over to Don Casey, Chief Executive Officer of Dentsply Sirona.

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Josh and good morning everyone. This is the first time some of you are meeting either Nick Alexos or myself, so we really appreciate you joining us. I would like to accomplish a few things this morning. The first is to provide some of my initial impressions. The second is to outline some key areas. And finally, I will discuss what you can expect from this management team going forward. While it's very early in my tenure, as a fact this marks the end of week three for me, much of what I have seen confirms my rationale for accepting this role. It also reinforces why I am confident that my previous experiences align well with what DENTSPLY SIRONA will need going forward. The few weeks have underscored that this is a great company in an attractive market, but is one that's also coming off a challenging year in terms of financial performance as well as one with lots of changes in management. We have now turned the page on that. We have a new management team in place that is excited about our future. Looking at that future, I know we have several great assets that we can leverage. They include being the number one or two brands in multiple consumable categories. These categories provide a reliable and stable source of growth. But beyond that, each of these brands represents an opportunity to build a relationship with dentists and labs, whether in areas like endodontics, preventive, restorative, our products touch hundreds of thousands of dentists around the globe each year, all of which represent an opportunity to start a conversation. Our leadership position in technology and equipment such as CAD/CAM and imaging is another major strength and is an important foundation for future growth. It is up to…

Nick Alexos

CFO

Thanks Don and good morning everyone. I have been equally impressed by the caliber of our people, the strength of our businesses and the opportunities we can pursue to add value to all our constituents. It's also been a great month for us working with Don from the date of his announcement. Let me start by commenting on our 10-K. By now, you have seen that we filed a Form 12b-25 for an extension of our filing date. We expect to file the 10-K by early next week and certainly prior to the expiration of the extension. Given our determination of an impairment, the complexities of tax reform passed last year and frankly the recent management changes, the extra days are helpful. Please be assured in my confidence in the financial controls of our organization, which brings me to the impairment charge. For Q4 2017 period,, we took a charge of $848 million to reflect evaluation related to our technology and equipment assets. This is comprised of $267 million related to indefinite-lived intangible assets and $581 million on goodwill. The charges are due to changes in projected operating performance as well as changes to our tax and foreign exchange rates. I will speak to each of these. In simple terms, although we shipped orders as planned in Q4 of 2017, our retail sell via our channel partners in certain markets was less than we expected. Rather than decreasing channel inventory by $30 million as was referenced in our November Q3 call, we ended with an increase of $21 million, mostly in imaging and CAD/CAM units in the U.S. and to a limited degree in other geographic regions. As a result, we have a lower growth rate in 2018 to reflect a now targeted $40 million of equipment inventory reduction and…

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Nick. And I would really like to thank you and your entire team. It's been a very busy time and you have done a lot of really great work and I have spend just a tremendous month getting to know you and the entire team as well as the DENTSPLY SIRONA team. Before we open up to questions, I want to reemphasize how much we value your interest and we plan to organize an Investor Day at some point at one of our facilities. We also plan to provide you at that time with our long-term views on the business in terms of revenue growth, margin and capital allocation. We look forward to getting that date on your calendar shortly. I will now turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. And we will hear first from Glen Santangelo of Deutsche Bank.

Glen Santangelo

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

Hi. Good morning. Don, just wanted to talk to you about underlying growth trends. First, on the consumable side. 2017, I think most saw that consumable sales were probably a little bit lower than expected, as dental volumes were a bit lower, but now that you are the last dental company to report, we have heard from Danaher, Schein and Patterson and the numbers are kind of a little bit all over the place. So I just want to get your perspective, given your market share and your global reach, what are you all seeing in terms unit volumes and consumable sales on an organic basis?

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Glen, thanks for the question. It's good to talk to you again. We feel pretty comfortable that we are seeing solid growth in the consumable areas. And look, we are a global business. Our bellwether, preventive and restorative business has pretty good growth over this year and we think we are probably gaining a little bit of share. So when you think about our consumable business on a constant currency basis growing about 4.6% and gaining a little bit of share, that would point to mid-single digit growth. So we feel that there is some good positive underlying trends. We like to think that some of that is due to our market share and the programs we are putting into place in the market. Next question.

Operator

Operator

And we will hear next from Tycho Peterson of JPMorgan.

Tycho Peterson

Analyst · JPMorgan

Hi. Good morning. In light of the impairment charge and the recalibration of the underlying growth for some of the businesses, can you talk a little bit more about the strategy to reaccelerate growth overall? Where are you making incremental investments? Is it aligners, CAD/CAM, implants or other areas? And when can we start to see some returns? And can you also talk a little about inorganic? How actively you are looking at M&A at this point?

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Thanks for the question, Tycho. And I will start and I will ask Nick to amplify. Look, if you think about our CAD/CAM business, we are big, big believers in digital dentistry, chair side dentistry. And we are going to continue pushing that. One of the things that I have noted just literally right off the bat is an opportunity though to how do we expand and take some of our equipment that's got great footprints and playing more aggressively in the digital impression space. So that's the first thing we are doing and we are working immediately with our team to make sure that our customers understand that we in fact have equipment that will let them play in that space. So that's the first thing. The second, as you look at this space, it's gotten more competitive. When you build a really, really good, high-profit, high-growth category like CAD/CAM, you are going to invite competitors. So one of the things that we want to do is, first we want to continue driving innovation and I think we are pointing to, what we think will be a pretty good set of launches around the IDS show and beyond and we are going to continue to innovate in that space. The other thing, Tycho, I think I mentioned in my script, as you go through that, I am really excited about the opportunity to bring much more disciplined sales force effectiveness into this area. As we think about the relationship we have with our partners, both Patterson and Henry Schein, in the past we have relied a lot on them to create some of the demand and I think we are going to really begin to focus on how do we work with them, but also how do we take responsibility for creating the leads and ultimately driving our business. And I think you are going to start to see that in the back half of the year when we have a little bit of time with our management team to get after it. Nick, what would you want to add?

Nick Alexos

CFO

Yes. Tycho, I would just add that I think this process has highlighted a great way to prioritize opportunities to invest, both to drive growth as well as improve the operations of the business. And we want to do those in the context of the guidance that we have provided you.

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Next question?

Operator

Operator

And we will hear next from Jeff Johnson of Baird.

Jeff Johnson

Analyst · Baird

Thanks. Good morning guys. Can you hear me okay.

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Yes.

Jeff Johnson

Analyst · Baird

All right. Great. So Nick, maybe just to start with you or Don, either one. So over the last few years, I think we would all admit that innovation has been somewhat lacking at DENTSPLY. It sounds like you are going to take this first $50 million tranche of cost saving and reinvest it back into the business. I don't think anybody is going to argue with that. But I would like to hear kind of that second tranche of the $50 million out of the total $100 million. Do you think that flows through better? Does the first $50 million drive some better topline? I am just trying to think all the way to 2019 at this point. Do things start to flow through at a better rate there? And then Nick, just also wondering, you say no repurchase in the guidance. How do you feel about repurchases, especially with your stock at these depressed levels? I can understand not putting it in guidance, but just conceptually how do you think about the level of your stock at these levels? Thanks.

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Jeff, first, thanks for the questions. I will let Nick jump in, in a second. There were two questions in there and let's talk about what are we investing in and I completely agree. We need to jumpstart our innovation engine and that's where we are putting some of it. Some of the savings are being driven right into innovation as well as sales force effectiveness. We need to improve some of the tactics, some of the messaging and some of the programs we are putting together. So that's the first thing. The second, as we think about the back half and where we want to grow and how do we want to grow, look, we have just begun to scratch the surface of how do we cross-sell. I mean the example that we talked about a second, a minute ago was about how do we take our imaging equipment and work better with implants. And we think we have got a lot of opportunities that way. When we talk about share repurchase, it's very, very early for me and I just want to emphasize, look, I want to grow and this is going to take us a little while to get our hands around this. This is why you don't see us coming right out the gate talking aggressively about share repurchase. And the priorities are, how do we grow, are there technologies or M&A that we can be doing that will accelerate growth. And then after that, we will commit to returning excess cash to shareholders. But right now, it's going to take us a little bit of time to get our arms around it. But I would tell you, our priorities are growth. Nick, I don't know what you want to add.

Nick Alexos

CFO

Yes. Jeff, I would just add, as you know and you heard, there are a lot of variables here and we feel very good of how we have brought them together to give you the guidance that we have provided. And in deference to the whole team and especially Don, there is a lot more work to do to prioritize. I look at the cost savings, the growth investments and cash flow somewhat independently. The cost savings were targeted to go after inefficiencies in the business and we feel very comfortable that we will get those. Separate from that, we are constantly looking at investments and have done some even in the last few months in order to either improve efficiencies or drive topline and those will overlap to some degree. And then cash flow will be the net result of an overall assessment of capital allocation strategies. As I noted, the guidance does not include any meaningful share repurchases. So give us a little bit of a buffer and range in terms of what we determine will be the right allocation of capital in 2018 and we will obviously update you guys during the year as we progress.

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Thanks for the question, Jeff. Next question?

Operator

Operator

And we will hear next from Robert Jones of Goldman Sachs.

Robert Jones

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Hi. Good morning, Don and Nick. Thanks for taking the question. I guess looking at the components of your 2018 guidance, it does seem like you are implying flat to maybe even down EBIT margins for the year? I would have thought you would see some improvement with the distributor change now largely behind you, you guys talked about the synergies ramping. So I guess how are you thinking about margins in 2018? I known, Nick, you mentioned seeing some margin pressure in the technology portfolio. But are there any other specific dynamics or headwinds that we should be thinking about for the margins in 2018?

Nick Alexos

CFO

Yes. Bob, very fair question and thank you. I would say the one notable element is, we do have significant foreign exchange variability, as I noted, with regard to the impairment. There is a significant cost structure for our European businesses and so that is definitely creating some margin pressure which also impacted the impairment value. Net net, we actually benefit from foreign currency or dollar weakening, foreign currencies improving, given the global nature of this business. But on a margin basis, it actually creates a bit of a headwind which is reflected in the numbers. We have a wide range of businesses and I can tell you, some will see margin improvement and in some other areas we will see some margin pressure. But the net amount is, as I said, slightly negative for the year is at least what we have penciled out.

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Bob. Next question?

Operator

Operator

We will hear next from Jon Block of Stifel.

Jon Block

Analyst · Stifel

Great. Thanks guys. Good morning. I wanted to ask about long-term pricing power. There has been sort of that chatter that pricing power among the distributors may diminish over time. Schein has talked to repricing amongst DSOs. And I guess we need to see GPOs play out over time. But what does that mean for you guys as the leading manufacturer in the market? I would love to get your thoughts on, if you are insulated from that risk a little, a lot? And maybe you can talk to how prices played into your revenue growth over the past 24 months? And Nick, how you see that evolving going forward? Thanks.

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Jon, first, thanks for the question. Look, we are going to focus on developing innovative and differentiated products and we are going to charge fair value for them. We are working well with the DSOs. We have got a terrific relationship with them. And as we view one of our imperatives to get after and focusing on the customer, we are going to work with them to understand how we can best serve their needs. But as I said in my script, I am very excited about the idea that we are going to be developing innovative products that are going to be differentiated and we would expect to get differentiated pricing.

Nick Alexos

CFO

Yes. I would just add, Jon, that there is no notable distinction in our pricing strategies going into 2018 or beyond. That's really left down at the trade level, as it makes sense in the field. And historically, yes, one of the things I liked about this business is that historically we are able to get reasonable price increases throughout our product lines.

Operator

Operator

And so we will hear next a question from Erin Wright of Credit Suisse.

Erin Wright

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Great. Thanks. How should we think about the inventory build in the quarter? How is this communication between your distributor partners and the inventory management there? I guess, how are those supplier relationships progressing? What changes can be made at this point? And then more broadly, what does this say, if anything, on underlying demand trends on the equipment side? Thanks.

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Erin, thank you for the question. First, we think we have got terrific relationships with both partners. As a matter of fact, at the mid-winter last week, we were able to spend a fair amount of time with the leadership of both companies and we reminded how important they are as part of our process. One of the things we emphasized in those meetings is that we really need to get visibility to the end user, almost retail sales, if you will, because not only do we need to understand the underlying inventory, we also need to be able to adjust our programs on the fly to see what's working and what's not working. So that's a program that both of us, both of the partners and us really want to emphasize and we think we have got good line on that. On the underlying trends, there's a couple of things on. I mean, the first is, there is more competition and the second, as you are bringing Henry Schein on and Patterson and they now have options to sell multiple things. So I think it's taking a little while for them to figure out how to drive business. In our meetings with both of our partners, we emphasize the need to grow our business and we think we put plans in place and we are pretty excited about where we are return to growth. One of the underlying trends, though, that we need to conscious of, in some cases you may have emphasis moving away from the chairside dentistry and the CAD/CAM and moving into a little bit more into DI where they are looking to just by pieces of the system versus the entire system. And again, we spent a fair amount of time with both Patterson and Henry Schein talking about what we think is just a much better patient experience, which is CAD/CAM and we want to be able to provide them as well as our own reps an opportunity to participate a little bit more aggressively in DI and that's why we are going to be pushing that as well. Next question. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

And will hear from John Kreger of William Blair.

John Kreger

Analyst · William Blair

Thanks very much. Don, you mentioned sales force effectiveness a few times. Can you just go back to that? Our perception is, legacy SIRONA and legacy DENTSPLY had fairly different sales strategies. So when you came in the door, what did you find? And do you feel like that the broad structure is in place? Or is there a fairly significant recasting that is necessary, from your point of view? Should be thinking about more salesman, less salesmen? Are you going to change where those sales forces are focused? Any elaboration will be helpful.

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Thanks for the question, John. It is interesting. I think that there is a certain legacy DENTSPLY and a legacy SIRONA. One thing that I have actually brought in is the fact that I didn't come from either company and we are going to spend a lot of time as DENTSPLY SIRONA. And whether the culture came from more of the consumable side which is relatively consistent program or whether it's a little bit more of the highs and lows that go along with equipment sales, we need to actually begin to do a much better job of leveraging across each other. So when you think about our community of CEREC dentists, I mean that that to me is something that we need to leverage in a big, big way and we need to help the technology and equipment people learn to bring the consumables right along. And one of the things, John, that we are going to spend time is making sure that all our sales forces have the opportunity to at least create leads or begin to work with our distributor partners to bring our other products in there. And that's going to be a pretty aggressive priority. The second is, I don't think it's a big recast. I think some of it is, let's just talk about consistency. Consistency in targeting, consistency in message and in my mind, it is how do we bring sales force automation so that we are creating a great CRM program that allows the cross-selling that we are talking about. So again, having spent time with the sales forces that have spent most of their lives in the consumables business, they get excited, hey, if we can create leads, terrific. When we were talking to the technology and equipment people, they have really not thought about how do I actually bring some of these consumables. And an example that we cited in the script a little bit ago was actually how are we bringing implants and imaging together in a novel way. And that's got people's attention internally because it's starting to work. So I don't look at it as a big recast. I acknowledge that there are some differences in the legacy cultures but we are going to operate as one company. We are going to operate aggressively and sales force effectiveness is probably the most immediate way that we can pull a lever to really start accelerating sales this year. Next question.

Operator

Operator

And we will hear from Yi Chen of H.C. Wainwright.

Yi Chen

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright

Thank you. Do you expect to recognize more goodwill impairments during 2018?

Nick Alexos

CFO

Just first, thanks for the question. Yes, the straightforward answer is no. We obviously have done a very thorough analysis of our business and the valuation of these assets and this is the determined impairment charge that we have calculated based on our long-range projections of the business.

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. Next question.

Operator

Operator

And we will go to David Stratton of Great Lakes Review.

David Stratton

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for the question. And I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about your near to mid-term investment in underdeveloped geographies and how that differs from what DENTSPLY SIRONA has done in the past and kind of where you see that trending going forward?

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Yes. David, first, thanks for the question. It's really interesting when you come in and again at the end of week three, the thing that actually surprised me is just how much of a global company we are. We do are close to $1 billion in sales in some of these regions. And we have had tremendous legacy presence there and we have just begun to scratch the surface of what it looks like in bringing other products to these regions. So look, do they have all the people they need, all the investments they need and all the resources they need, probably not. And that's one of the things that I think I look forward to talking more about as we go forward in the future. But it's a region that's growing. It's got positive demographics. You have got the economies going the right way. And it's a place that we absolutely want to be growing. Next question.

Operator

Operator

And at this time there are no other questions in the queue. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Casey, CEO of DENTSPLY SIRONA for any closing comments.

Don Casey

Chief Executive Officer

Well, first, thank you very much. We look forward to getting back and talking to you in May. And as I indicated, we will be setting up an Investment Day at one of our sites a little bit later in the year and we look forward to getting that into your calendars. So thank you very much and everyone have a great day.

Nick Alexos

CFO

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And again, that does conclude our call. We would like to thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.