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Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Tue, Apr 25, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Xerox Holdings Corporation First Quarter 2023 Earnings Release Conference Call. After the presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the meeting over to Mr. David Beckel, Vice President of – and Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

David Beckel

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. I’m David Beckel, Vice President and Head of Investor Relations at Xerox Holdings Corporation. Welcome to the Xerox Holdings Corporation first quarter 2023 earnings release conference call hosted by Steve Bandrowczak, Chief Executive Officer. He is joined by Xavier Heiss, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. At the request of Xerox Holdings Corporation, today’s conference call is being recorded. Other recording and/or rebroadcasting of this call are prohibited without the expressed permission of Xerox. During this call, Xerox executives will refer to slides that are available on the web at www.xerox.com/investor. And we’ll make comments that contain forward-looking statements which, by their nature, address matters that are in the future and are uncertain. Actual future financial results may be materially different than those expressed herein. At this time, I’d like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Bandrowczak.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Good morning and thank you for joining our Q1 2023 earnings call. I would like to start by complementing the Xerox team in its execution of another solid quarter. We delivered another quarter of revenue and profitability growth in what continues to be a dynamic and challenging operating environment. Some of the challenges we faced in prior quarters, such as supply constraints and elevated logistics costs have receded, but new challenges have emerged as central banking policies remain restrictive to global economic growth. Against this backdrop, we at Xerox remained focused on the execution of our 2023 priorities and the goal of delivering client success through products and services that address the productivity challenges of today’s hybrid workplace. In other words, we are focused on making work, work for our clients. Summarizing results for the quarter revenue of $1.72 billion grew 5.5% in constant currency and 2.8% in actual currency. Adjusted EPS was $0.49, $0.61 higher year-over-year. Free cash flow was $70 million compared to $50 million in the prior year quarter, and adjusted operating margin of 6.9% was higher year-over-year by 710 basis points. Demand for our print equipment and related services remains resilient, as evidenced by another quarter of constant currency growth in both equipment and post-sale revenue. This quarter, we also observed a pickup in office-related print activity. As a result, we continue to expect a stable revenue and demand outlook for the year. Consistent with recent quarters, we are seeing isolated pockets of softer installation activity often the result of delays in project deployments rather than order reduction. This softness, however, is being offset by continued strength in our office print business particularly for state and local government, education and mid-market accounts as well as strength in our print and digital service offerings. We believe current…

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Thank you, Steve, and good morning, everyone. As Steve mentioned, we delivered another strong quarter of growth across all key metrics due to a stable demand environment for our equipment and services, improvement in product supply and supply chain-related costs and the benefit of price and cost actions taken last year. Starting with revenue, the momentum in sales growth we experienced in the second half of last year carried over to start this year. In Q1, we posted the fourth consecutive quarter of constant currency growth in total revenue and the third consecutive quarter of constant currency growth in both equipment and post sales revenue. Revenue growth this quarter of 2.8% at actual currency was negatively impacted by 270 basis point of currency headwinds and reflected improved product supplies, healthy equipment order flows and growth in contractual print and digital services. Turning to profitability. We delivered a second consecutive quarter of year-over-year improvement in growth on operating profit margins driven by higher equipment sales and favorable mix, price increases, lower logistic costs and a reduction in operating expense, including a $23 million reduction in bad debt expense. Gross margin improved 250 basis points over the prior year quarter, mainly driven by lower supply chain-related costs, benefits associated with price and cost action taken in 2022, currency and improved product mix. These benefits were partially offset by ongoing product cost increases. Adjusted operating margin of 6.9% increased 710 basis points year-over-year, driven by 380 basis points from cost reduction actions, 250 basis points of supply chain-related cost improvement, 130 basis points from lower bad debt expense and 90 basis points from price increases. Partially offsetting this benefit were effect from currency. Adjusted other expenses net were $10 million lower year-over-year due to lower net interest expenses associated with lower core debt,…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Ananda Baruah from Loop Capital. Your question please.

Ananda Baruah

Analyst

Hey, thanks. Thanks for taking the question, and good morning and yes, just congrats on solid execution and the solid results. A couple if I could. First one is, could you sort of highlight for us like any of the remaining sort of expansion of services that you guys are continuing to provide to customers? And if there’s any distinction between enterprise customers as well as business customers, that would be helpful as well. But any – you spoke some – at least some on the call about sort of the expanded services offerings, but if there’s any that you haven’t spoken to, could you give us some sense of what those are, and what your philosophy is around the services expansion and how those are resonating, that would be super helpful? And then I have a follow-up. Thanks.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Yes, Ananda. Good morning. It’s Steve. A couple of things on the services. So as we’ve been talking about for a while now, we are trying to help and focus on client success, really looking at the headwinds that our clients are dealing with in terms of inflationary headwinds, labor, et cetera, and the hybrid workforce, right, really trying to help them with productivity. So with that said, we’re taking things that we’ve already implemented internally to help ourselves like robotics-as-a-service, artificial intelligence and around document, document flow and taking those and bringing them both to the enterprise customers, which we’ve been doing with things like Digital Mail, helping with things like accounts payables and workflow, now bringing into our mid-market customers. So taking a lot of the things that we’ve been doing internally and now turning them externally and helping out both our enterprise customers and, more importantly, where we have midsized customers that have enterprise needs, but don’t have enterprise solutions, we are bringing those to our customers. So a couple of examples, robotics-as-a-service in law firms, really helping law firms with clerical and with things around paper and workflow and document flow, helping in hospitals and in schools and universities around administrative tasks, around digital services and very specifically, helping them with document flow, helping them with driving more productivity. So, we’re seeing more of that and especially as we see the macro trends more and more about clients are asking us to help them to offset the macro trends and the headwinds they’re seeing in the industry without technology and services.

Ananda Baruah

Analyst

Yes, that’s helpful, Steve. And are you – how would you sort of describe the manifestation of so far relative to your initial expectations? Is it as planned? Is it a little bit stronger given what’s going on with macro? Any color there would be helpful just to get a sense of resonation.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

I would say a little mixed, right, where we talked about the enterprise customers just slowing down a little bit and installs, but not backing off. And then we’re seeing acceleration in other areas where customers are asking us to accelerate so that we can drive their cash flow and drive their productivity. So it’s a little bit of mix. I think, in state, local government, in midsized customers, we’re seeing opportunities to grow the TAM in the existing accounts that we’re in. I’ve talked about this before, how do we take our current products and services and really expand it inside of existing customer base and really focusing on is client success. That’s a big shift for us and really focusing on how do we help clients succeed in the macro environment and the challenges that they’re seeing, and we’re seeing some success in those areas.

Ananda Baruah

Analyst

Cool, cool. And then the follow-up is, can you sort of just update us on how you view – how incremental you guys view the potential for the small and medium business hardware opportunity to be – it’s been a meaningful part of the company’s narrative over the last few years, but would love to get – now that you’ve been in the seat for a few quarters, love to get your sense of how material you think hardware, and then the broader services portfolio to followed from that can incrementally be to the competence [ph]. Thanks.

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yes. Good morning, Ananda. I will take these questions here. So regarding SMB hardware, so the interesting part of – as you know it, so we attract higher margin on this type of sales, specifically on the A3 devices and led with HPS here in the U.S. here. But we have seen, and we are still seeing quite a resilient demand of this type of hardware. We also position pricing on price increases in the past to offset some of the cost increases that we were facing. So currently, this is one of the strong driver of the profit improvement. And we are quite positive around the rest of the year with product availability normalizing and the ability to keep the margin at the expected level of margin that we have it in our assumptions.

Ananda Baruah

Analyst

And Steve, Xavier, do you – like structurally speaking, in coming years, do you believe there’s a meaningful share gain opportunity? It’s really share participation opportunity for the company in small and medium business hardware?

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Yes. I think it’s not just the hardware, it’s going to be the solution and services we provide around that hardware. You think about our A3 devices, think about it as a engine that we can bring products and services in and around, so things like language translation, things like being able to help universities and help hospitals in administrative tasks, not just around the hardware, but around the software that we can provide around the things like ConnectKey, things like print in the cloud and then adding AI to it. So it’s really how do we advance those other digital services in and around our hardware that I think is going to be the differentiation. And the more we focus on client success meaning the more we drive customer outcomes, help them with their P&L, the more successful we’re going to be. And do I see that as an opportunity for growth? Absolutely.

Ananda Baruah

Analyst

Appreciate it guys. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from the line of Erik Woodring from Morgan Stanley. Your question please.

Erik Woodring

Analyst

Hey guys, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. I have a few as well. And then really nice operating margin expansion so congrats on that. I just want to kind of double-click on some of your guys’ kind of macro comments or spending comments. Obviously, last week, there were some, let’s call it, shots at the bowel from some hardware companies that seemed to expose some potential deterioration in enterprise spending patterns, perhaps mid-March and beyond and maybe even to April. Can you maybe just address kind of linearity in the quarter for you guys? How your client conversations are trending? How that’s trended into April? Just to give us a little more comfort around or maybe what you’re seeing compared to maybe what perhaps others outside of the print world, but still exposed to enterprise are seeing? And then I have a follow-up. Thanks.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Let me start, Eric, and then I’ll turn it over to Xavier. So, I think if you look at the macro trends over the last 24 months in the hybrid workforce, we saw a lot of placement of end devices in the homes, whether it’s laptops or whether it’s printers. And that cycle, as we all know, is very cyclical. And so I think what we’re seeing in the hardware space, certainly on endpoints is, we’re now seeing that refresh cycle has ended, and now you’ll see the low like we normally see in most laptops and most of those technology life cycles. What we have seen though is, we haven’t seen that big upside in COVID. And so now what we’re seeing is an opportunity to expand on the base that we have with products and services in and around how do we help clients success in productivity in and around things like digital services, software. And so for us, it’s an expansion on the base that we have, and we have an opportunity to bring new products and services into existing client base. Xavier?

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yes. Eric, I would add as well that, as you know, we have quite a resilient business model. The resilient business model is based on, I would say, some simple pillars. The number one is our contractual revenue base. What is contracted for four, five years, even more in some cases there, represent two-third of our revenue. So, we are less subject to the bumps on the high-end loads that some of our traditional hardware competitors are facing. The second point is we still see a strong demand, the demand for equipment, the demand for service, we have noted we have reduced our backlog, but we still have some backlog to clean during quarter two here with a good mix. The third item and to close on this one, price increases. We have been able to enact during the prior year at difficult time, price increases, and the price increases that we apply, not only on the equipment revenue on the hardware, but also on the contracted revenue will be now with us for three, four, five years depending on the customer contract.

Erik Woodring

Analyst

Okay. That’s super helpful. Thank you guys. Thanks for all the color. And then maybe, Xavier, just to touch on the point you just made. You’re obviously – or maybe over the last two quarters, you’ve been able to work down backlog. It looks like you ended at $180 million versus $435 million a year ago. So I know you made the comment about backlog being normalized, I think you said around $225 million. But shouldn’t we interpret this as backlog being below normalized? Or maybe just help me square that, and then help me understand kind of as a result of that point, how – if we should still think about a stronger first half of equipment sales relative to maybe a weaker second half just as a result of working down that backlog, if that’s still the same view you take today?

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yes. So it’s quite simple. Backlog normalized value is around $100 million to $125 million. So I will simplify it by saying around one month to one month and a half of equipment revenue. So currently, we are running above, I believe, and this is our assumption that in quarter two, we will clear the backlog. The backlog is solid. That’s another point I want to share here. We are not seeing backlog cancellations. On the second point, the aging of the backlog, more than 50% of the backlog is less than 90 days old, which means that, during quarter two, this backlog should reduce and will be at a normalized level here.

Erik Woodring

Analyst

And then maybe just the last part in terms of does that – should that still imply a weaker second half of equipment sales relative to the first half? I think that’s what you guys said 90 days ago. I just want to see if that’s still how you’re thinking about the world today.

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

No, the way we see it because this backlog is refilled every quarter, and this refresh away we’ll see it is back to the prior comment, we still see a strong demand of our equipment. We have orders from customers not only for next quarter, but also that will be deployed during the rest of the year. So I’m not looking at the backlog being like a way to hide slower demand or more of a recession. I mean you know our total revenue guidance that we published here. We are still sticking with this guidance, which is flat to low mid-single-digit decline. We had obviously a strong quarter to compare versus last year is certainly easier. But so far, we are still sticking with the guidance here.

Erik Woodring

Analyst

Perfect. No, that’s very helpful. And then maybe – Steve, maybe last question for you was, I think the licensing agreement with the existing Fuji Xerox entity has now expired as of the end of last quarter. How should we think about your opportunity to go after the Asia Pacific market? I know you didn’t mention that. Is that a focus? Is that not really a focus? Maybe help us understand yes or no? And then second to that, why it would or would not be a focus for potential growth going forward? And that’s it for me. Thank you so much.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Yes, I think there’s a couple of things. One, focusing on profitable growth and an expansion in our existing accounts, in our existing regions, we see more than enough opportunity to expand the TAM within IT services, digital services and software and services in and around the products that we already have. If you think about the amount of capital of what it takes to go put into a new region, building a supply chain, building services, building inventory equipment and that ecosystem, it’s a pretty long putt in terms of setting that up and the costs associated with that. So right now, we see the regions that we’re in as an opportunity to expand profitable growth and expand inside the existing accounts. So at least, short-term, we have no desires to go and spend a whole lot of money to start up and spin up in a new region.

Erik Woodring

Analyst

Super, very helpful. Thank you guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Samik Chatterjee from JPMorgan. Your question please.

Samik Chatterjee

Analyst

Yes, thank you. Thanks for taking my questions. I have a couple. The first one was really on operating margin, the guide that you are issuing or raising today and congrats on the strong execution here to set that up. But I’m also trying to think about the reasons that the operating margin has to moderate into the second half, particularly if you go back and look historically, your first quarter margins are typically the lowest and your OpEx is typically the highest in Q1. Even if I keep some of the macro headwinds and some of the one-offs you called out, like it seems like OpEx and there is probably more room on the OpEx to go in the second half to drive the margins to remain at these levels or even higher. So I’m just maybe more for Xavier, just to sort of outline why should we expect margins to moderate materially in the second half because, typically, that hasn’t happened in the prior years? And I have a follow-up.

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yes. Good morning, Samik. Good question. So this is very simple there. The margins for quarter one was a strong margin. For the reason we explained it was helped by a mix, product mix, a little bit like what we had in Q4 that was more favorable. We expect this mix to normalize. If you look at the chart, the high-end equipment was higher. The A3 equipment was higher. A4 was a little bit lower. So this helped the equipment margin. The other item is, in Q1, we have had some one-off benefits, specifically a bad debt benefit here that we are not seeing this as a recurring item there. So when you normalize here, we are in the range for this quarter or something which is around 5.5% here. That’s the reason why when we guided for the rest of the year, we are not expecting a deterioration of the margin. If you look at the implied gross margin for the rest of the year, it is around 4.7% to 5.1% or a little bit higher here. So we are not expecting like a margin deterioration, but we have to take into account some of the items that I mentioned for Q1. And also, we want to consider potentially what we call macro headwinds. There are some uncertainty around still some cost items and how some normalization of the cost base will happen here.

Samik Chatterjee

Analyst

Okay. And, Xavier, just to quickly follow up, the $471 million in OpEx that you have in 1Q, what’s the best way to think about the run rate exiting the year, particularly with the PARC benefits coming in as well?

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yes. So on PARC under we – I think we commented that or we put that in the press release there. On PARC, PARC was included in our guidance. So we were working on this transaction, and one in January, we have given the guidance there. So the PARC benefit and the flexibilization of the RD&E cost base. By the way, we started this last year. If you remember, with more heavy and also with the ability when we spun these businesses to be more flexible on this year, we’ve got some of these benefits in quarter one, and obviously, in quarter two, quarter three, quarter four, we’ll have further benefit from PARC, but you should consider this being already included in the guidance there. From an OpEx point of view, I believe I mentioned that in my script, we’re expecting around, overall, it’s not on the OpEx, but cost base there, around low to mid-single digit growth cost efficiency, which is the Own It engine and the traditional way of looking at how we address the cost base and we make it flexible, I won’t say regardless, but taking into account potentially some of the macro headwinds that some of the economists are indicating for the back end of the year.

Samik Chatterjee

Analyst

Okay. And if I – last question, if I may – and sorry for the multiple questions here. But just what we’ve heard from general distributors and VARs has a lot more pressure in the finance field services, customer verticals since the headwinds on the banking side. Any sort of way to ballpark what your exposure to that customer vertical is? And if there has been a more sort of pocket of softness there since what’s happened over the last couple of months? And that’s it for me. Thank you.

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yes, this is a good question. And I will look at it in two ways, and FITTLE will be at the core of the answer. The first way is if I look at what we call the bad debt situation for Xerox bad debt related to FITTLE here. It’s quite steady. It’s quite strong. We have not changed any way we do credit or risk rating for our customer. So our own performance from a financing point of view with our own customer remain resilient and strong. The other point on the – and I think you have also this in mind there is the fact that some of the SMB business, and potentially some of these bank difficulties here, could drive more business for FITTLE. This is the way we look at it, there is an opportunity, but I want to be very clear on this one. We won’t do that at the decrement of the quality of our leasing portfolio. And the team is very stringent on this.

Samik Chatterjee

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from the line of Shannon Cross from Credit Suisse. Your question please.

Shannon Cross

Analyst

Thank you very much. Steve, can you talk a little bit about your decision regarding donating PARC? I mean, I’ve worked with multiple CEOs over the years who all expected to monetize PARC. And generally, we’re unsuccessful. So I’m not sure this – I think it’s probably the right decision. I’m just curious, as you looked at it, can you maybe talk a bit about why you think that was the case? And then are there any other benefits – just I understand on R&D savings, but in terms of tax benefits for that, maybe, Xavier, you could touch on it? Thanks.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Yes. Let me go back to, when I took the CEO role, Shannon, I talked very specifically about a shift in two areas. One was a focus on R&D that was a little bit nearer to our revenue horizon. And very specifically, we took actions around Novity and Mojave as Xavier talked about a little bit earlier, and that was we weren’t going to continue to use our cash as those particular products and those particular businesses were growing. And so as we looked at PARC, we saw significant shifts in the industry in terms of valuation of startups and products, et cetera. And we decided that if we were looking at too long a horizon and too big a spend and continue to invest in those things, however, it was very important for us to be able to see inside to that innovation and have the ability to take advantage of that innovation going forward with our overall strategy around R&D. So the PARC SRI donation fit perfectly into what we were trying to do, meaning that we could still have insight to innovation, still have insights to technology – by the way, have the greatest researchers in the world focus on some of the toughest world’s challenges and very specifically some of the challenges we see in clean tech, et cetera, et cetera. And we have the ability to be able to take our long-range plan, meaning our R&D and our business strategy, work with PARC SRI in the future to help us to develop our strategy and get insights to those technologies. So, I see it as an expansion of our PARC capabilities in terms of seeing insights to technology and getting access to longer-term development while we can focus our capital resources on more near-term revenues. So that’s why we made the decision, Shannon.

Shannon Cross

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. And then, I guess, Xavier, anything from a tax credit benefit maturity, I don’t know if there’s a benefit there down the road?

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yes. So the reason tax credit, we do not disclose a number precisely there. More to come when the overall credit will be enacted here. We will disclose when the amount will be published here. But so far, we are not disclosing any specific figure regarding the tax credit.

Shannon Cross

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. And then my final question is just you made a number of comments about flexible cost structure. I’m wondering how we should think about fixed versus variable. I mean, traditionally, copiers had a pretty high fixed cost structure because you had to go out and maintain them. You had to drop – you can drop ship and you had to bring them to a loading dock, all of that. So how do you see your cost basis maybe over the next couple of years shifting? What’s fixed versus variable now? And what do you think you can get to over the next few years? Thank you.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

And so, Shannon, let me start and then turn it over to Xavier. So, we’ve been focusing on driving operational efficiencies and driving sustainable change in terms of a management operating system within the company. And so that was the foundation of Project Own It. On top of that, it was the constant utilization and embedding technology inside of our overall processes. So a simple example is what we talked about with CareAR. We now launch products with CareAR automatically as part of when a customer receives a box, they see CareAR in terms of how to unbox and actually install. That CareAR session helps us to reduce service calls. We can do more things remotely. We talked about artificial intelligence and helping and using artificial intelligence to help our service delivery team and help them resolve problems quicker, and, in fact, sometimes not even have to go to a customer site. So we have been embedding technology inside of our processes, inside of Xavier’s [ph] area using technology, artificial intelligence, business intelligence and how we run our management operating system. So we have been very systematically, over the last couple of years, with Project Own It, not only putting a managed operating system in place, putting discipline in place for our people, but more importantly, using technology that drives sustainable and continuous improvement. And we’re on that journey, and we’ll continue that journey. That’s why we lost Project Own It the name because it’s now embedded in the culture of the company, and we’ll continue to do that. Xavier?

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yes, Shannon, just to build from a pure financial on a P&L hydraulic there. So we focus obviously on gross margin expansion. Pricing is a driver and we are also, as Steve mentioned, attacking any cost of goods sold opportunities that we have. We have some headwinds with raw material increase and some material increase there. But if you notice it, our gross margin is still expanding. This is not related specifically to one-off type of item. It is structurally done with what Steve mentioned. The order ratio that we are monitoring constantly is a ratio of OpEx, so RD&E plus SAG versus total revenue. And if you notice this year-over-year, this is a ratio that we are pushing to improve. If you exclude also the benefit and, in some cases, the impact of bad debt, just looking at selling on G&A plus RD&E, all these metrics, this is a focus of the management team to drive them down and to make the cost base flexible.

Shannon Cross

Analyst

Thank you. That was very helpful.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude the question-and-answer session of today’s program. I’d now like to hand the program over to Steve Bandrowczak for any further remarks.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Yes. Thank you for listening to our earnings conference call this morning. Demand for our products and services remains resilient amid a challenging macroeconomic background, and we are making progress in our efforts to improve profitability. Our performance is the credit to our hard-working team, who have embraced our strategy, strategic priorities by developing customer success while focusing on profitability. I thank you for attending today’s call.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today’s conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.