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Xylem Inc. (XYL)

Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Jul 30, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Xylem’s Second Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants have been placed on a listen-only mode, and the floor will be opened for your questions following the presentation. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to, Mr. Phil De Sousa, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood

Thank you, Brandie. Good morning everyone, and welcome to Xylem’s second quarter 2015 earnings conference call. With me today are Chief Executive Officer, Patrick Decker; and Interim Chief Financial Officer, Shashank Patel. They will provide their perspective on Xylem’s quarterly results and discuss the full-year outlook for 2015. Following our prepared remarks, we will address questions related to the information covered on the call. For those participating in the Q&A, I’ll ask that you please keep to one question and a follow-up and then return to the queue so we will have enough time to ensure everyone the opportunity to ask a question. We anticipate that today’s call will last approximately one hour. As a reminder, this call and our webcast are accompanied by a slide presentation, available in the Investors section of our website at www.xyleminc.com. All references today will be on an adjusted basis unless otherwise indicated, and non-GAAP financials are reconciled for you in the Appendix section of the presentation. A replay of today’s call will be available until midnight on August 13. Please note, the replay number is 1800-585-8367, and the conference ID is 74050051. Additionally, the call will be available for playback via the Investors section of our website under the heading, Presentations. With that said, please turn to slide two. We will make some forward-looking statements on today’s call, including references to future events or developments that we anticipate will or may occur in the future. These statements are subject to the future risks and – at future risks and uncertainties, such as those factors described in Xylem’s most recent annual report on Form 10-K and in subsequent reports filed with the SEC. Please note that the company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements publicly to reflect subsequent events or circumstances, and actual results or events could differ materially from those anticipated. Now, please turn to slide three. Now I’ll turn the call over to our CEO, Patrick Decker.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Thanks, Phil, and thank you all for joining us today. We have a number of items to cover this morning but before we get started, I’d like to address the news regarding our Chief Financial Officer transition that we announced earlier this month. First, my sincere thanks to Mike Speetzen for his many contributions to the company over the past six years. As many of you know, he played a key role throughout the separation process from ITT, providing strong leadership for the financial organization as well as broadly across the business. We wish Mike and his family the very best as they transition to a great new opportunity at Polaris. I would also like to recognize and thank Shashank Patel, who is here with us this morning for quickly stepping into the role of CFO on an interim basis. With nearly two decades of experience at ITT and Xylem, Shashank has deep knowledge of our many businesses and is a highly respected finance and operational leader. He has been able to hit the ground running and help facilitate a smooth transition which is allowing us to proceed with a disciplined, thorough search for a permanent successor. Now let’s turn to the current market environment. Our second quarter results and finally our outlook for the balance of the year. The combination of our uniquely diversified portfolio along with strong execution, enabled us to deliver solid results in the second quarter. I am pleased with our team’s ability to perform well in a challenging environment, increasing long-term backlog, continuing to gain share, and taking cost actions to mitigate pricing pressures. In our Applied Water Systems business turned in another record operating margin performance. In addition, we are encouraged by what we’re seeing in key end markets. The commercial market for example…

Shashank Patel

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Thanks, Patrick. Please turn to slide six. We generated revenues of $920 million, down $85 million from the prior year. The year-over-year decline reflects the anticipated foreign exchange translation headwind driven by a stronger U.S. dollar and the impact of our valves divestiture in the third quarter of 2014. Excluding those items, organic revenue increased 1%, slightly below our expectations and the outlook we provided during our last call of approximately 2%. From an end market perspective, commercial lead the way up 6% with public utility and agriculture up 2% and 1% respectively. Partially offsetting these gains were declines in the residential market of 2%. The industrial end market was flat year-over-year. From a regional perspective, we again saw strong growth in emerging markets, up 9% combined with 10% growth in Australia and modest growth in Western Europe, up 1%. This was mostly offset by declines in Canada and the U.S., which were down 16% and 2% respectively, primarily due to industrial oil and gas market headwinds. Operating margin was flat at 12% excluding the negative impact of foreign exchange translation. Once again despite headwinds in our largest end markets limiting our organic growth, we’re able to demonstrate our ability to execute cost management to maintain our operating margin. Focus on continuous improvement and restructuring savings, reduce cost by $32 million in the quarter and resulted in 350 basis point of margin expansion. Partially offsetting these reductions, where inflation cost, unfavorable sales mix and the impact from the divestiture of our valves business last year. Earnings per share, declined by $0.05 to $043, however excluding the foreign exchange translation headwind of $0.06, we grew EPS by 2%. Now let me cover each of our reporting segments. Please turn to slide seven. Water Infrastructure recorded orders of $585 million, slight organically.…

Patrick Decker

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Thanks, Shashank. As we move past the midpoint of the year, I’m pleased with the progress the team has made, particularly in terms of their continued focused execution. While we are weathering some near term market challenges, several areas of the business have delivered solid growth. Importantly, we continue to advance our strategic agenda. And I look forward to updating you in more detail on that agenda at our upcoming Investor Day. As a reminder, it will take place on Thursday, September 24, in New York City. At that time, we plan to outline our long-term growth strategy, which will include organic and inorganic growth plans, our continuous improvement agenda, as well as our capital deployment framework to drive shareholder value. It will also be an opportunity for you to engage directly with my leadership team. We will share more details on the agenda in last August. And, now operator, we can begin the Q&A session.

Operator

Operator

The floor is now open for questions. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our first question is coming from Deane Dray of RBC Capital Markets.

Deane Dray

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Good morning, Deane.

Shashank Patel

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Good morning.

Deane Dray

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

I was hoping, we could start on the comments on muni, and it’s been a while since there has been some positive comments about growth and rebounds and so, take us through first geographically, the European municipal buyers versus the U.S. and address where the pickup is coming? Is it from break in fix MRO or are there any projects getting released?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Thanks, Deane, yeah. So, let me give some overall commentary here. I would say, it’s a combination of both in terms of break in fix as well as some project activity there, that we see rebounding. When you take a look at what we’ve seen thus far, we’ve looked at about 2% growth in muni in the second quarter, about 2% to the first half of the year. We are seeing an acceleration in that area. We expect the second half of the year to be up mid-single-digits. And so we are seeing some acceleration there. It’s being driven primarily by both treatment and transport predominantly in the U.S., but I would say also as well as Europe, but Europe to a lesser extent than the U.S.

Deane Dray

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Are you actually seeing projects getting released?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

It’s a combination, but yes, we are seeing – we are seeing projects are getting released, again, it’s still a bit slow, but we also have seen an increase in the quoting activity as well as in our win rate on that quotes.

Shashank Patel

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

And Deane, this is Shashank, and just add to the on the pump side from our transport division in the second quarter, we’re up 6%, for the half, we’re up 4% and that’s where we see strength in the second-half of the year as well.

Deane Dray

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Understood. And this is the second question to, maybe you can expand on the expectations regarding pricing, it doesn’t sound like it’s a big headwind, but directionally it looks like it’s gotten a little bit tougher for you. And maybe if you can parse out what the pricing environment is like on OVE versus your aftermarket business?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Sure. Good question, Deane. So, I would say first of all, you know through the first-half of the year and continuing through the second quarter and we expect this continue through the rest of the year. Pricing has is pretty been neutral. We had previously expected it be up about 30 basis points, 40 basis points, and right now, we’re seeing that being neutral across the businesses, but an aggregated number. When you take a look at the individual pieces of the portfolio. I would say we are beginning to see the supply demand mix work in our favor over time on the muni side of the equation. We haven’t seen that fully come to realization yet, but we expect that to be the case more in 2016 and beyond. As we see increase in demand, where we’ve seen the most pressure from a pricing standpoint has been predominantly in Applied Water and that’s in the well pump business, there where again it’s a soft market, tough competition. And so, we are taking a very disciplined strategic approach in that area. Obviously, we’re also working to put that pressure back on our suppliers by being more aggressive on the sourcing side. So we can mitigate any of that that pricing pressure that we’re seeing.

Deane Dray

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Thanks. And just, hopefully he’s listening, I wanted to wish Mike Speetzen the best and we’ll really miss him.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Absolutely. I’m sure he is listening.

Mike Speetzen

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Thanks, Deane.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Thanks, Deane.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Nathan Jones of Stifel.

Nathan Jones

Analyst · Nathan Jones of Stifel

Good morning, everyone.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Nathan Jones of Stifel

Good morning.

Nathan Jones

Analyst · Nathan Jones of Stifel

If we could just start on the commercial side there. You had first half plus 8%, you’re looking at low-to-mid singles for the full year, which would kind of imply pretty wide range of down low-singles to up mid-singles in the second half. I know you’ve talked a little bit about distributor stocking in the first half and destocking in the second half. If you could just give us a little bit more color around the slowdown in the commercial in the second half, and how much of that is destocking versus end market slowdown?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Nathan Jones of Stifel

Yeah. This is gigantic that one. We actually saw a growth in the first half of 7% and there was – just give you destocking in the first half, primarily in the U.S. as well as we have strength in China. China was up in the high-teens. And what we expect in the second half, specifically in the U.S. a little bit of destocking going on as well as slower growth in China in the second half, driving to our – we’re calling it low-single digit growth in the second half versus the plus 7% we saw in the first half. I will say that we are quite encouraged by what we see happening in the commercial building sector. As you know, we’re heavily weighted towards the institutional side of that market. And we are seeing a continued recovery in that space.

Nathan Jones

Analyst · Nathan Jones of Stifel

Okay. Then on the overall margin guidance for the company, it’s gone from 13.2% midpoint to a 13.1% midpoint. You said you had expected 30 basis points to 40 basis points in price that’s now neutral. Is a couple of million dollars lower expectation of restructuring savings? Can you talk about where the offset on the positive side is coming from to those two negative things?

Shashank Patel

Analyst · Nathan Jones of Stifel

Sure, yeah. So, couple of areas. First of all, we have really been driving the global source and global procurement and productivity effort here quite aggressively, and we’ve seen – we’ve seen an uptick in that progress, so that’s certainly helping us out here. Obviously, we also saw some uptick as we talked about in the area of commercial and public utilities, and those tend to be good margin businesses for us and so that’s help mitigate. The biggest single driver, of our margin outlook for the balance of the year, really is driven by industrial being weaker than expected, and that’s just given the very high margin nature of our dewatering rental business. And so, that’s really what’s driving predominately that downtick. But we’re trying to more than offset that as much as possible through other productivity efforts. And just another note on that is. Realizing that we were in competitive markets as well as tough markets industrially as well as dewatering mix impact. We have taken a more – we always take good approach in cost management but we’ve also focused more on the cost management side, to help with all the other productivity that we work on.

Nathan Jones

Analyst · Nathan Jones of Stifel

All, right. Thanks very much guys.

Shashank Patel

Analyst · Nathan Jones of Stifel

Thank you.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Nathan Jones of Stifel

Thanks, Nathan.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood.

Ryan Connors

Analyst · Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood

Great, thank you. Yeah, I wanted to talk a little bit, hello. Wanted to talk a little bit about the Europe side. You noted stronger growth in I guess, industrial applications in the slide deck in Europe. I assume that some of the new products on the HVAC side that might be driving that, but if you could just expand on the drivers behind that strength in European industrial?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood

Yeah, actually on the HVAC side, we did have significant product launches last year, as well as this year. So, we’ve seen some of the benefit of that for in the first-half of the year, and we expect to see the some additional products that will be launched in the Q3 time period of this year. So we expect to see continued strength from them – primarily driven by product launches.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood

And Ryan, this is Phil. Just we also saw an uptick in the quarter, particularly from our wastewater pump division, and Patrick’s comments earlier I think with regard to the public utility market, and we did actually see strength there as well. But the industrial wastewater pump market also was up quite significantly in the second quarter. Q – RyanConnors: Okay. And then that, I mean, that, will that pipeline of new products continue to be refilled as we move into the balance of 2015 and into 2016, or will we kind of start to anniversary some of those and hit some tougher compares?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood

Yeah, so good question, Ryan. First of all, we definitely will continue to see an uptick in the amount of new product launches. Obviously, we need to manage that in terms of, we don’t want to overload our sales teams with too many new products, but there is quite a bit in the hopper right now that we’re quite excited about. And we’ll be walking you guys through at Investor Day. Some of those exciting launches, and some of the key focus areas that we’re targeting, but the short answer is, yes, we will continue to see new products be a very integral part and critical part to our growth strategy. And when you look at our vitality index, it’s up to 18%. So this is something we’ve been working on for the last two years or three years, and it – continues to tick upwards. So that continues to be in focus, and our goal is to continue growing that, so the pipeline will continue.

Ryan Connors

Analyst · Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood

Okay. And then, this is kind of a tough one to answer, I realize, and I know we’re e going to hear more about this at the Analyst Day. But if you could just kind of qualitatively discuss for us, Patrick, your initial thoughts on kind of 2016 top-line, I mean, there is so many moving parts we have, I guess, the 4x headwind will annualize and kind of go away on a translation basis and we’ve got the different end markets. And what’s your kind of your thought process about how 2016 will shape up relative to the company’s longer term top line growth goals?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood

Sure. So, yeah, as you said – obviously we’ll give more color at Investor Day and it’s a little early for us to predict given somewhat of the short cycle nature of the business here, but let me speak at a top level. I’m very encouraged by what we’re seeing particularly on the public utilities and the commercial side of the equation. And the fact that you’re looking at a sizeable increase in our backlog and shippable in 2016 and beyond. Again, we’ve seen more than a 50% growth in that in a total company wide basis. So that’s quite encouraging. I would say, so looking at from that perspective that all net-net is positive and probably positive up versus what I’d have been thinking previously. Having said that, the one big unknown that we’ve got obviously is how long this oil and gas weakness is going to continue and given the impact that has on our dewatering business, which is such a high margin business for us. So that’s really in my view the biggest wildcard right now, but everything else in net-net, I’m feeling more encouraged.

Ryan Connors

Analyst · Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood

Okay. So I guess if we look at the long-term growth goals of the companies, turnout there in the past, would it be safe to say 2016 has given us some puts and takes, but it’s more or less kind of a normal year, right. It means, you’ve got some nice drivers and a few offsets.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood

That’s correct.

Ryan Connors

Analyst · Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood

Okay. Well, great thanks for your time this morning.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood

Thank you.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood

Thanks, Brian.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Rose with Wedbush Securities.

David Rose

Analyst · David Rose with Wedbush Securities

Good morning. Thank you for taking the call.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · David Rose with Wedbush Securities

Sure, good morning.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · David Rose with Wedbush Securities

Good morning.

David Rose

Analyst · David Rose with Wedbush Securities

Just a couple of quick ones. One, following up on the procurement initiatives, I mean can you quantify how much of the spend as a percentage of total spend is left to target and what you’re expectations are in terms of the dollar amount of savings left and maybe the big buckets if you could?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · David Rose with Wedbush Securities

Yeah, I’ll start surely giving specific numbers here today and we certainly will be in a position to kind of layout what that overall target opportunity is and certainly at investor day, this is a multi-year journey that we’re on and we have obviously being going after the biggest spin categories and the most obvious spin categories things like castings for example and so I would say most of our progress thus far has been in those direct spin categories. There is still plenty of room for us to move there and certainly as we see growth in volume as we look into the out years just that increased level of volume and spend will continue to refresh and give us an opportunity to drive become savings there. Obviously indirect spend in some of the other categories of spending are areas that are still very rich and fertile for us to go after. But again, we’ll talk more about that in detail at investor day.

David Rose

Analyst · David Rose with Wedbush Securities

Can you just maybe bracket a ballpark about how much spend was left to go after?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · David Rose with Wedbush Securities

I would say that on the direct spend which we’ve been working on for many years we’ve captured most of that. On the indirect spend category where we had a big effort starting about 12 months to 18 months ago, there I think is where the biggest opportunity is, as far as the percentage, I’m not exactly sure but I think we have probably targeted at least 50%, 75% of the indirect spend categories. So there’s still, as Patrick said, there’s still more opportunity for that. Yeah, this is a multi-year journey and effort. So the buckets evolved, the level of spinning evolves and so, I’ll stop short of talking about a specific number or a percentage right now, but again we can get into that more depth on Investor Day.

David Rose

Analyst · David Rose with Wedbush Securities

Okay. I appreciate and I certainly understand. And maybe if I could one more, kind of on a big picture item is the cash flow is great for the quarter. You seem a little timid on the share buyback and maybe you can articulate for us what you’re thinking about that?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · David Rose with Wedbush Securities

Sure. Yeah. So, share repo, it continues to be one of the elements of our capital deployment framework. It will continue to be an important element of our capital deployment framework. Obviously, beyond offsetting dilutive impacts from equity grants, we do view repurchases as an opportunistic lever to return capital back to shareholders. Again, we’re going to update you in terms of what our outlook and what our plans are for that Analyst Day as well, but you can rest assure it will continue to be an important element of our framework.

David Rose

Analyst · David Rose with Wedbush Securities

Okay, great. Thank you and I look forward to hearing more from you.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · David Rose with Wedbush Securities

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Joseph Giordano of Cowen & Company.

Tristan Margot

Analyst · Cowen & Company

Hey, guys. This is Tristan Margot for Joe today.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Cowen & Company

Good morning.

Tristan Margot

Analyst · Cowen & Company

Good morning. Just a couple of quick ones here, most of my questions have been answered, but could you give us a breakdown of the organic order growth that you have by region and by end markets?

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Cowen & Company

Hi, Tristan. This is Phil. That information we don’t typically provide, but if we get a sense, just as a reminder, the Applied Water division is very much so a book and ship business and so you can pretty much approximate the same to a geographic profile – application profile as the revenue organic profile – organic growth that we highlighted earlier today. As far as the organic order growth for Water Infrastructure, perhaps I’ll just leave you with a thought process so that we are seeing an uptick in orders on the treatment side, both the U.S., Europe, and we continue to see – if you had continued healthy growth on the emerging market side.

David Rose

Analyst · Cowen & Company

All right, great, thank you. And then, just a quick one on oil and gas, I know, you’ve highlighted, I think 40% decline in the second half.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Cowen & Company

Yeah.

David Rose

Analyst · Cowen & Company

What are you seeing currently in oil and gas? Is it how we flatten out here or, or what are your expectation or what do you see right now?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Cowen & Company

Sure. Yeah, so, the 40% decline that we talked about previously is in still line with our latest outlook and expectations as we talked about in our prepared comments. What you’re saying here in terms of us talking about further weakness there is really more of a broader industrial knock-on effect and the impact that has on some of our distribution partners. So our outlook remains unchanged, again 40% down year-over-year. In terms of whether that’s the bottom, I mean, it’s certainly we hope it’s still bottom, it feels like it’s the bottom. But I [indiscernible] anyone to make that projection just yet. So that’s why we’re taking a cautious approach here.

David Rose

Analyst · Cowen & Company

Okay. Great. Thank you for taking the questions guys.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Cowen & Company

Sure, thank you.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Cowen & Company

Thanks, Rose.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Scott Davis from Barclays.

Scott Davis

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

Hi, good morning guys.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

Good morning

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

Good morning.

Scott Davis

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

I wanted to get some clarity on where you’re spending capital, where you think there is, where do you think there is growth in and what kind of projects and things you’re spending money on, whether it be adding capacity versus productivity and things like that?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

Sure. Yeah, so from an overall capital perspective, I would say – and I’ll talk about this both in terms of true CapEx versus where we’re directing maybe our ongoing expense focuses well. Certainly we see the opportunity we’re executing on that in terms of investing more in a few of our critical emerging markets. And so again building some extra capacity in China to support the growth in demand there as well as certainly in the Middle East. We’ve approved an expansion there that I’d talked about it a little bit briefly in the last earnings call and that will be localizing our assembly in test capabilities and adding some additional feet on the street. We’ve been investing as a priority more in R&D to again drive our new product development pipeline, and again we’re quite encouraged by some of the opportunities there. And then I would say third, probably not big news if you are on the phone, simplifying our IT environment and reducing the number of systems that we’ve got and investing more in the IT implementations to support the frontend of the business is the third area, I would say a priority from a capital perspective.

Scott Davis

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

It sounds good. Fair answer. And then I don’t know how you can comment on this, but I’m curious to hear your thoughts at least on pain there and trying on it at least the concept of consolidating the industry. I mean how easy to approach from these angles, since you could probably tell me [indiscernible] your comment, but – I mean how easy is it to consolidate this industry? And how – how much consolidation do we need to see? I mean when I think about flow in general, it is one of the most fragmented of the sectors that we. Industrial analysts are covering, there’s probably 25 players out there. I mean we’ve got number of verticals that are consolidated down to a four or five major global players. I mean what do you – how do you think about this industry and how it stacks up in the next several years, and what kind of consolidation we might see and how easy this to consolidators, and just...?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

Sure.

Scott Davis

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

It does look easy from the outside, but when you really dig in, it’s – their channel conflicts and all of kinds of other issues that have to navigate that makes a less interesting?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

Sure. Well, I may be pleased to hear this, because I won’t say, no comment. But obviously, as a general practice, we don’t comment on speculation or on others kind of move. But obviously being a flow control veteran and bound to space for a number of years, I think it is easier [indiscernible] . Having said that, it’s till fragmented and there are opportunities to consolidate in the space. There is more complexity behind that that meets the eye for many of the reasons that you pointed out. And so in terms of predicting what will happen, what could happen, I wouldn’t go further than that to speculate. Again, we remained focused on our strategy, and executing what we’re going to do. Obviously, deployment of capital towards M&A is going to be a very meaningful part of that. We’ll be sharing a bit more about that in terms of areas that are particularly interesting to us at Investor Day, and that will be a richer dialog at that point, Scott.

Scott Davis

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

Okay. And then just last question. I mean when times are tough like this, we normally see market share shifts go back to the best players or the strongest players. Most of all, capitalized has been most cost supplier, producers in the scale, and [indiscernible]. It’s difficult for us to get external validation, but do you feel like you’re gaining share, there’s a feel like you are outperforming your pump industries?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

I am always cognizant Scott not to get too far ahead of my [indiscernible] , in terms of talking about share, but the bottom-line is, I’m very pleased by what I’ve seen through the first half of the year. When you take a look at our growth rates in our key end markets relative to what the underlying end market growth is, I think you see that most prominently, and again our pump business, you also see that I think to a meaningful extent in a number of our business, including treatment. But it’s – it’s too early to kind of declare that. It’s still a tough market. We’re – we’re using all the levers that we have at our disposal. But it does feel quite encouraging on behalf of the team right now. But again, we still got a lot of work to do to make this sustainable.

Scott Davis

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

Okay. Fair enough. Good luck, guys. Thank you.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

Okay, thank you.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Scott Davis from Barclays

Thank you, Scott.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Chip Moore with Canaccord Genuity.

Chip Moore

Analyst · Chip Moore with Canaccord Genuity

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Chip Moore with Canaccord Genuity

Good morning. Thanks.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Chip Moore with Canaccord Genuity

Good morning, Chip.

Chip Moore

Analyst · Chip Moore with Canaccord Genuity

Just wanted to follow-up on the rental biz a bit. Do you think headwinds bottom out here in the second half as some of those idle assets get redeployed or where do you think we stand in that process, maybe if you have some historical context?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Chip Moore with Canaccord Genuity

Sure. Yeah, so we’ve – the team – I’ve been very pleased with what the team has done in proactively addressing this and we do expect to see benefits of the redeployment of a large number of our pumps to put them out for rent in some of the international markets. And so I think we are looking at this as a silver lining on the situation, because it does help us accelerate building out that international business. That takes time to get the pumps there to get them in place and ready to rent, and then obviously you’ve got to create demand. But we’re quite encouraged and optimistic about the opportunities there. That certainly will help us as we go into 2016 as well. Certainly, in terms of – do we think it’s the bottom, do we think it gets better from here. As I mentioned earlier, that’s hard to predict. I mean it feels like it. I think the team is optimistic that it is the bottom at this point in time. What I feel good though about is the again -the approach the team’s taken. And I do think that will help buffer relative to some of the other players in the marketplace.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Chip Moore with Canaccord Genuity

And this is Phil. I just add. It’s not that we want to exclude obviously portions of the business from our results because it’s now already behind the diversified portfolio. But if you did take aside the oil and gas related say, deep water and rental branches out of the equation. We’re seeing very solid growth, in all the other branches, and I think that plays into the diversified application expertise of our Godwin business here in the U.S. and more broadly speaking across the globe.

Chip Moore

Analyst · Chip Moore with Canaccord Genuity

Okay. That’s helpful. Thanks, folks.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Chip Moore with Canaccord Genuity

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

So our next question comes from Brian Konigsberg of Vertical Research.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst · Vertical Research

Good morning.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Vertical Research

Good morning, Brian.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Vertical Research

Good morning, Brian.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst · Vertical Research

Hey, guys. Hey, couple of quick questions. On the – just the adjusted guide for the year, the productivity number of $0.07 just seems like, it’s decently large. I know you guys put in place, spending curtailments late in 2013 as well, which seem to yield pretty good benefit. Has the belted loosened over the course of 2014, and now you’re bringing that back down, are you finding more opportunities? And maybe a little bit more color on that bucket would be great?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Vertical Research

Sure. Yeah, I would say, the bell is absolutely not loosen. I think, the – it is an issue of just continuing to apply good disciplined cost management and in constrain, as well as identifying further opportunities for cost reduction efforts. As well as we talked about, just the acceleration in our global procurement capabilities as well. As you’ve heard us probably say before I do think that the large majority of the opportunities that had been done thus far have been happening within the individual business units themselves. And to some extent, the function, the opportunity going forward here as we talk about the opportunity to simplify the company further, is really looking at things horizontally, from a company perspective, and as opposed to just within the unit themselves. Those are harder to get out, but that’s say a big part of the, what I’d call the self-help story in terms of margin expansion. The other point I note is from a productivity standpoint. Historically, the second half is stronger than the first half. And that’s just leveraging the incremental volume, we have that helps productivity as well as the whole fixed overhead cost issue. So if you look at even 2014 second half to first half, we had an improvement of almost $0.06 in productivity. So $0.07 is kind of in line with that with the additional actions, we’ve taken and the global procurement effort, we are accelerating this year.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst · Vertical Research

Okay. But just to be clear that $0.07 when you build up from previous guidance to the new guidance that $0.07 incremental versus what you’ve planned as of say to the first quarter, is that correct? And is that mostly coming from procurement or is it mostly coming from discretionary spend that you’re able to cut back on?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Vertical Research

It’s primarily coming from procurement.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst · Vertical Research

Okay.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Vertical Research

And Brian, one element just to highlight, we’ve got some of that benefit already here in Q2. And so as you kind of think as we are trying to offset some of these unfavorable mix and we’re certainly ramping up the GSS activities, given the deflationary environment. We want to go back and certainly first half, with some of our suppliers, expecting of course that they will take some time to get a little bit of acceleration. So you should see more of that benefit come in to the fourth quarter.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst · Vertical Research

Okay. Got it. Yeah. And maybe you just touched on inflation and deflation. I mean, do you anticipate you’re going to start to see some deflationary benefits in the second half of the year just from commodity prices coming down? I know you’re pushing down [indiscernible] itself, but just kind of raw materials, you’re purchasing. Does that become additive to you versus the previous guidance? And is it baked into the numbers?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Vertical Research

It’s baked into the numbers. And you’re right that will help in the second half.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst · Vertical Research

That will be in the second half. Okay.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Vertical Research

Yes.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst · Vertical Research

If I could just sneak one more in. Just on the oil and gas part, so there’s been a lot of discussion about U.S. drillers kind of approaching, I guess the market with refracing, rather than just natural fracing. Does – is that present the same type of opportunity for your transport dewatering business, as it would for I guess a normal state of drilling?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Vertical Research

It would be – we would largely be indifferent to that. So it would still be the same level of activity to be managed.

Brian Konigsberg

Analyst · Vertical Research

Okay, all right. Thank you.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Vertical Research

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brent Thielman of Davidson.

Brent Thielman

Analyst · Brent Thielman of Davidson

Thanks. Just one more question. On the dewatering business, you have some headwinds in areas like mining and oil and gas. Can you remind me, how much these sort of commodity sectors represent as a portion of business?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Brent Thielman of Davidson

Yeah, so oil and gas is about, again oil and gas mining, that whole commodity play is about 15% of our dewatering revenue.

Brent Thielman

Analyst · Brent Thielman of Davidson

Okay.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Brent Thielman of Davidson

And Brent, this is Phil. I just want, it’s 15%, [ph] how much worth, its 15% each.

Brent Thielman

Analyst · Brent Thielman of Davidson

Between mining and oil and gas?

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Brent Thielman of Davidson

Correct. So the total combined make-up approximately call it 30% to 35% of the dewatering profile.

Brent Thielman

Analyst · Brent Thielman of Davidson

Great. Thank you.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Brent Thielman of Davidson

Sure.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Robert Barry of Susquehanna.

Robert Barry

Analyst · Robert Barry of Susquehanna

Hey guys. Good margining. Thanks for taking my question.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Robert Barry of Susquehanna

Good morning.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Robert Barry of Susquehanna

Good morning.

Robert Barry

Analyst · Robert Barry of Susquehanna

I was wondering if you could unpack the industrial outlook a little bit, I guess especially on the Applied side. It sounds like it’s more than just oil and gas and mining getting worse. And I know you have very broad exposure within what you call industrial in Applied?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Robert Barry of Susquehanna

Yeah, I would say that, you’re right. Its primary oil and gas and mining, but then there is a whole bunch of other segments that get impacted by industrial, it’s the all other industrial category. And there, obviously, we just like the rest of the business in Applied Water, we were soft in the first half. In the second half, we actually have some projects that are shipping in the second half. So when you look at the second half versus the first half, first half was negative 1. Second half is projecting low single-digits. It’s held by the backlog that’s in there rather than improving market conditions in industrial.

Robert Barry

Analyst · Robert Barry of Susquehanna

So whenever you see – the outlook is lower because industrial is weaker, and it sounds like you kept the oil and gas decline the same, and all the nine oil and gas and mining stuff actually looks better in the back half. So, is this incremental weakness kind of absorbed already or are things actually worse out?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Robert Barry of Susquehanna

No, sorry. It’s absorbed. I mean it’s absorbed in the revised guidance now that we’re giving you. And the way that you’ve read it is absolutely right. What we saw deteriorating further was in the oil and gas mining piece, again predominantly in dewatering. We did see some weakness through the first half in Applied Water on that broader industrial piece, but to Shashank’s comment, when you take a look at the second half of the year based on very specific projects and backlog and demand mainly in the Applied Water business, we expect a more positive outlook for the second half. When you bring all that together, it still ends up being flattish.

Robert Barry

Analyst · Robert Barry of Susquehanna

Got you, got you. And then maybe just a quickly, I wanted to clarify on the restructuring, and if you said this already, just tell me and I’ll read the transcript, but it looks like the carryover savings are lower now from 2014, I think 2015 versus it was $18 million. Did you talk about why that’s lower?

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Robert Barry of Susquehanna

Robert, that’s right. So I think the key point to bear in mind here, and perhaps, we could probably made this a little bit clear in our prepared remarks or in original Q&A. But the expected carryover savings this year is a bit lower, but you should expect the balance that $2 million, to $3 million that has essentially been reduced here. We’ll see that early part of next year, it’s more of a timing shift if you would in terms of when we’ll actually realize some of those year-over-year savings. We have one specific project that’s included in and it’s been delayed but it’s still on the docket, and will be executed by early 2016.

Robert Barry

Analyst · Robert Barry of Susquehanna

I see. Okay, thank you.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · Robert Barry of Susquehanna

Thanks, Robert.

Phil De Sousa

Analyst · Robert Barry of Susquehanna

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, there are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Patrick Decker for any additional or closing comments.

Patrick Decker

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Sure. Well, thank you. Thanks, everybody again for joining us this morning, I appreciate your continued interest. We look forward to seeing you all at our Investor Day again September 24 in New York City. Between now and then, safe travels to all, have a good summer and we look forward to seeing you then. Thank you.