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cbdMD, Inc. (YCBD)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, May 15, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. Welcome to the cbdMD, Inc. Conference Call to discuss results for their Second Quarter Fiscal 2025 period ending March 25, 2025. This afternoon, the company issued a press release that provided an overview of its second quarter results, which followed the filing of its quarterly report on Form 10-Q. Today’s conference call is being recorded and will be available online along with our earnings press release covering financial results and non-GAAP presentation at cbdmd.com in accordance with cbdMD’s retention policies. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Brad Whitford, the company’s Chief Accounting Officer. Brad please go ahead.

Brad Whitford

Analyst

Thank you, Gaylian, and thank you all for joining cbdMD’s March 31, 2025, second quarter of fiscal 2025 earnings call and update. On the call today, we also have Ronan Kennedy, our CEO and Chief Financial Officer. We’d like to remind everyone that various remarks about future expectations, plans and prospects constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. cbdMD cautions that these forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those indicated, including risks described in the company’s annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal – 10-Q excuse me, for the fiscal quarter ended March 31, 2025, and our other filings with the SEC, all of which can be reviewed on the company’s website at www.cbdmd.com or on the SEC’s website at www.sec.gov. Any forward-looking statements made on this conference call speak only as of today’s date, Thursday, May 15, 2025, and cbdMD does not intend to update any of these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that would occur after today’s date, except as may be required by federal securities laws. With that, I’d like to turn the call over to Ronan.

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone. And thank you for joining us today. Over the past several quarters we set two clear goals: one, drive revenue growth and achieve profitability; and two, resolve our capital structure and regain compliance with the NYSE American listing standards. This quarterly update I am pleased to report progress on both fronts. Our top priority for the second quarter and into Q3 was preparing for our annual meeting and securing shareholder approval on two mission critical proposals, the conversion of our Series A Preferred Stock and a reverse split. This was a complex undertaking involving multiple shareholder classes and two failed prior attempts over the last 18 months. I want to thank our shareholders for the strong vote of confidence. The successful approval of these measures represents a major milestone in cbdMD’s reset and long-term positioning. With the Series A conversion complete, approximately $6.7 million in accrued dividends and our shares of Series A preferred stock were converted into common stock, raising our pro forma non-GAAP adjusted book value from approximately $670,000 to over $7 million as of March 31, 2025, well above the $4 million threshold required by the NYC America. The exchange also eliminated legacy obligations including $4 million in annual dividends, and over $50 million in preferred waterfall payouts and simplified our capital structure. After discussions with the regulators, our board determined conducting the reverse stock split was an important step to protect against the NYSE American $0.10 delisting threshold. Between the preferred conversion and the reverse stock split we now have approximately 8.9 million shares of common stock outstanding, no debt, no warrant overhang and a clean cap table, putting us in a position to fully regain compliance by the end of our fiscal year. After two years of heavy lifting, cbdMD is now…

Brad Whitford

Analyst

Thanks Ronan. Total net sales for the first quarter of fiscal 2025 were $4.7 million, representing an 8.6% increase from the prior year comparative quarter total and a 7.9% decrease from the first quarter. As Ronan mentioned, we are focused on three key areas to improve our quarterly revenue numbers. Our quarterly e-commerce direct-to-consumer business was flat year-over-year and generated sales of $3.6 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2025. E-commerce represented 77% of our total net sales for the second quarter of 2025 versus 83% in the prior year comparative quarter. Our wholesale business generated $1.1 million of net sales for the second quarter fiscal 2025, up 22% as compared to $750,000 for the comparative quarter in fiscal 2024. Our gross profit remained healthy at 62% for the second quarter of 2025. The increase in our warehouse rent flowed through in full this quarter, including some one-time increases in CAM costs. Despite this, we continue to operate with some of the leading gross margins in the industry. Our SG&A expenses for the second quarter of fiscal 2025 totaled $3.5 million compared to $4.1 million in the prior year comparative quarter. The expense reduction was primarily due to reductions in payroll, professional fees and the elimination of the headquarters lease in addition to other cost saving initiatives, while slightly offset by an increase in marketing expense. For the six months ended March 31, 2025, SG&A expenses were down $1.8 million across the board and came in at $6.9 million. We are continuing to review operating costs across the board to ensure we remain efficient and help us return to positive income and EBITDA during the second half of the year. Overall, this resulted in a loss from operations of approximately $485,000 for the second quarter of fiscal 2025 as…

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

Thank you, Brad. Operationally, we transformed this business. Our mandate is profitable growth and remain firmly committed to delivering a profitable 2025. The successful capital restructuring not only improves our balance sheet, but also opens the door for future strategic opportunities, including M&A. The right transaction could be truly transformational, creating opportunities to expand into new categories, reach broader customer segments, open additional sales channels and realize meaningful operational synergies. Our capital structure is now clear, our stock is more investable, and we're seeing increased inbound interest since the annual meeting. We are evaluating these opportunities with discipline and clear focus on long-term value creation. We consider this a great reset, a clean slate to create long-term value. We're no longer weighed down by the past. We're now powered by a lean organization, loyal customer base and category-expanding brands. Our cash burn remains low we believe we have the working capital to execute our growth plan. We believe we're in a stronger position than many of our public peers with stronger gross margins, substantially debt-free with approximately $1.7 million in cash and no material liabilities beyond normal working capital and lease liabilities. Our battle tested team has showed time and again, that we can evolve, adapt and deliver. We're grateful for the shareholder support shown in April, and we're more focused than ever on driving the results in the quarters to come. Thank you. And let's open it up for questions.

Operator

Operator

Certainly. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Adam Waldo with Lismore. Oh sorry, he disappeared. Our next – our first question is from Tom McGovern with Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Tom McGovern

Analyst

Hey guys. Thanks for taking my question. Yes. So I just want to start first with the Herbal Oasis brand, obviously announced that you were launching it back in November. Now you've had some time to actually commercially roll it out. You mentioned those distributors and plans to really fuel the growth now that you kind of work through some of the capital structure concerns that were a priority in prior quarters. So just maybe could you give us a little bit more color on that kind of that expansion look from your perspective? Just what are some maybe milestones we should look out for kind of targets, if there are any specific distribution channels you're looking to get into with the brand or specific markets you're looking to expand into? Any details on that would be helpful. Thank you.

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

Sure, Thomas. Look, we had started discussions back in the December quarter with a number of distributors and started giving commitments during the March quarter. In March, we – some of those discussions took a little longer than we liked, and we started seeing some legislation pop up towards the end of March, which kind of slowed some of the shipments into those distributors. We did ship at the end of March into one. We've shipped – in April, we had some shipments. And then I think we recently announced in May, we started shipping into Charlotte. So I think was a little frustrating that I think some of the regulatory stuff that since sort of resolved itself, slowed down our progress a little bit. But we've got feet on the Street in some of our core markets and closing doors on a daily basis. So for us, I think we are trying to work with key distribution networks in various states. Some states it's easier to get full state coverage. Others, it's broken up into more kind of county-based systems. So I think we're out there talking to distributors every day, working to secure opportunities for our brand and continue to march and build our distribution footprint beyond sort of the Southeast where we're at today.

Tom McGovern

Analyst

Understood. I appreciate that color. Just a follow-up on that, should we be looking at 2025 as kind of a development or commercial ramp period and then maybe start to expect Herbal Oasis to be more of a key driver of growth or a material driver of growth in 2026? Or should we start to expect that had maybe once it starts hitting the distribution channels, there should be relatively rapid uptick, and we can start to see Oasis materially impacting top line in the back half of this year?

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

Well, I think we should start being able to see towards the back end of this year some good contribution from the brand.

Tom McGovern

Analyst

Appreciate that clarity. And then last question for me. Since this post – the conversion of preferred into common equity, obviously increases financial flexibility for you guys. Just maybe walk me through high level how you expect it to impact your strategy moving forward? I know that now you'll have access to shelf registration that was locked-up due to the cap structure. So just curious, does this alter your expectations for growth or give you any more clarity on what we should be expecting for 2025 in terms of growth initiatives?

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

Yes, Thomas, I think for the shelf to come back into play, we have to complete our next audit. So it's realistically that doesn't come into back into play until December sometime. I think for us, it sort of gives us, I would say a couple of things are critical here. One, we're now in a really great position to maintain our listing, right? We were on a path with the NYSE. So by the end of the year, we potentially were delisted. So from a preservation of value for shareholders and giving not only customers, shareholders, employees alike, the fact that we now – we're in a great position on a go-forward basis to name cbdMD as a listed company on the NYSE American. I think strategically we've had to turn – we've had numerous discussions with various parties over the last few years. And I think people really didn't see – they saw the YCBD stock and the price and sort of looked at it. And then as they sort of ended up sort of doing research layer down and understood the preferred, I think there wasn't much value credence in sort of the value of our stock, and that's either for strategic investment that's for doing M&A, that's for trying to find sort of the right influencers and allow them to sort of participate. So I think that now it's very easy to understand our capital structure and really understand the value of our stock, given that it's just a clean common stock structure, it allows us to use that currency for the right deals where we believe there's sort of strong alignment and creating value in the future for our shareholders.

Tom McGovern

Analyst

Understood. Well, congrats on working through that. Congrats on the quarter, and it looks like you're positioning yourselves nicely for 2025. I appreciate again you taking the time to answer my question. I'll hop out of here, thanks.

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

Thanks Thomas.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Adam Waldo with Lismore Partners. Please go ahead.

Adam Waldo

Analyst

Hi. Good day Ronan and Brad, I hope you can hear me okay.

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

Yes, Adam. How are you?

Adam Waldo

Analyst

I'm well Ronan. And you?

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

I'm great, thank you.

Adam Waldo

Analyst

Well, congrats on the conversion. I wonder if we can talk about the working capital situation going forward and how that respectively translates into cash burn or cash generation. So over the last three fiscal quarters, you've averaged a cash burn of about $275,000 a quarter. You did better than that obviously, here in the last quarter at around $200,000 million. Are you still comfortable based on what you're seeing in terms of the working capital requirements, particularly of the Herbal Oasis Tonic's new products that the company's liquidity runway remains sufficient through the end of fiscal 2026 as you had indicated. Was your outlook on the fiscal fourth quarter 2024 results call on December 18th?

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

Look Adam, I think we understand sort of what happened this quarter. We're working to tighten that up and make sure that sort of we get back to a scenario where we're in a much better positive EBITDA and cash generation situation. So I think we're still feeling comfortable as of today with where we're at and the working capital that we have on a go-forward basis.

Adam Waldo

Analyst

Okay. And so am I right to correct to infer that you're still comfortable with that guidance that you issued on December 18th that you thought liquidity outlook was sufficient through at least the end of fiscal 2026 in another six quarters from here?

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

That is what we have modeled out.

Adam Waldo

Analyst

Okay. Terrific. And then switching gears. You made a number of comments on today's call and in the recent press release around the successful conversion of the preferred to common, about company being well positioned going forward for strategic activity. And that was obviously a key criterion for the conversion in the first place. So as you look forward, what types of strategic activity do you think Board and management would find most attractive. Can you comment on that at all?

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

Look, I think as I sort of spoke about in some of my closing statements, I think we're looking at opportunities where we think there's a really good either cost synergies to shrink out of a business, open up new channels and/or sort of acquire new customers where we think there's sort of a great customer overlap and are able to sort of look at it as one and one equals three. I think that's both inside the cannabinoid space and outside the cannabinoid space.

Adam Waldo

Analyst

Okay. That's very helpful. And then I guess the final question. Actually, let me go back to the last part of what you said, outside the cannabinoid space. Could you flesh that out any more or add to that?

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

Yes. I don't think it needs to be a CBD company now.

Adam Waldo

Analyst

Okay. Okay.

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

We certainly think there's plenty of opportunity. I think you've seen the number of companies in the space shrink over the last few years. We think there's still plenty of opportunity and plenty of we'll call it overhead in the space. So for the right brand and the right structure. I think we're interested where we think one and one is going to be greater than two.

Adam Waldo

Analyst

Understood. And I guess the final thing following up on something – on Thomas line of questioning around Herbal Oasis. What kind of sort of financial and operating performance metrics on that new product set, can you offer us this quarter, if any? Or should we look for more disclosure to come as you'll reach the materiality threshold that you seem to be signaling you would expect to see sometime before the end of this fiscal year?

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

So look, I'll say is there was really – the revenue impact came at the very end of the March quarter. And we're starting to see that pick-up here moving through the third quarter here. So I think we're not – we have, I think, stated before that the gross margins on this product are not quite the same as our core business. But from our standpoint, we view it as incremental contribution dollars and are looking at sort of a volume play because it is a different business than shipping gummies and pills majority of direct-to-consumer.

Adam Waldo

Analyst

Very good. Thank you so much, and best wishes for upcoming quarters.

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

Adam, thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Ronan Kennedy for any closing remarks.

Ronan Kennedy

Analyst

Thank you again to our shareholders for your support and everyone, for attending today's call. We look forward to our next earnings call in August. Have a great afternoon.

Operator

Operator

This brings to a close today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.