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Yiren Digital Ltd. (YRD)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Fri, Jun 9, 2023

$2.06

-3.74%

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Yiren Digital First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants are in a listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Lydia Yu. Please go ahead.

Lydia Yu

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter 2023 earnings conference call. Today's call features prepared remarks by the Founder, Chairman and CEO of CreditEase and our CEO, Mr. Ning Tang; and our CFO, Ms. Na Mei.; Mr. Raymond Fang, Head of our Consumer Finance, will join the presenters in the Q&A questions. Before beginning, we would like to remind you that discussions during this call contain forward-looking statements made under the safe harbor provision of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements involve inherent risks and uncertainties. As such, the Company's results may be materially different than what we view expressed today. Further information regarding future risks, uncertainties or factors is included in our filings with U.S. SEC. We do not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statements as required under the relevant laws. During this call, we will be referring to certain non-GAAP financial measures and supplemental measures to review and assess our operating performance. These non-GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information prepared and presented in accordance with the U.S. GAAP. For information about those non-GAAP measures and reconciliations to GAAP measures, please refer to our earnings press release. I will now pass the line to Ning, our CEO, for opening remarks.

Ning Tang

Analyst

Thank you all for joining our earnings conference call today. First, an update on our insurance brokerage business. Total gross premiums reached more than RMB923 million, up 15% year-over-year, of which life and property insurance policies contributed 57% and 43%, respectively. The increase was mainly driven by life insurance policies, which increased 28% year-over-year, significantly outpacing China's life insurance industry premium growth of 8.9%. Our strategy to drive rapid business growth continues to be product innovation, customization, agent development and digitization. We are invested in our agents and have established programs to help them improve professional skills to enable them to broaden their service scope to cross-sell and up-sell products and services, matching customers' evolving needs throughout their entire lifecycle. We noted initial success this quarter with a significant uptick in first year life insurance premiums from existing property insurance policyholders. On property insurance, as mentioned on our last call, as part of China's Belt and Road initiative, a global infrastructure development strategy. China's outbound investment and construction projects are expanding at a fast pace, bringing new scenarios for insurance protection and coverage. Hexiang, leveraging its advantages in product development, professional risk management expertise, reinsurance qualifications as well as partner -- is now providing reinsurance for overseas construction insurance policy. We estimate the potential market size for this insurance segment to be at least RMB10 billion. In the first quarter, total premiums for this product segment grew close to 30% quarter-over-quarter. And we expect to see a continued increase over the rest of the year. Next, on the credit side. In the first quarter of 2023, total loan volume was RMB6.4 billion, representing a 39% increase year-over-year. Total number of borrowers in the quarter increased 71% from prior year to 872,000. The increase was primarily driven by our revolving loan…

Na Mei

Analyst

Thank you and hello everyone. On this call, I will only focus on the key financial highlights. Please refer to our earnings release and IR deck for details further details. In the first quarter of 2023, our total revenue reached RMB986.3 million, representing a 14% increase year-over-year and a slight decrease of 9% from prior quarter. The quarter-over-quarter decrease was mainly driven by change in our loan volume. Our total facility this quarter was RMB 6.4 billion, representing a 39% year-over-year growth and a 5% decline by prior quarter. The quarter-over-quarter change can be due to adjustments in product mix. Basically, we actually make adjustment to our small business loans, while we plan on growing growth in our small revolving loan sector. Insurance has become our key revenue driver from the building close to 20%, our net revenue this quarter. And therefore, from starting from this quarter onwards, we'll be disclosed sectors total gross premiums and revenue from our insurance brokerage business. In the first quarter this year, gross written premium reached RMB923.4 billion, representing a 15% increase year-over-year and a 31% decline from prior quarter. The quarter-over-quarter decline was mainly attributable to a decline in policy renewal, which impacted by timing of the first year finance. Revenue from first quarter business which RMB196.4 billion for the quarter, representing an increase of 27% year-over-year and remained stable from prior quarter. As a portion of our total gross written premium, under life insurance policy were both higher this quarter, thereby -- a revenue take rate of broker business increased accordingly. On the expense side, sales and marketing expense decreased to 40% to RMB106 million from the same period last year due to the optimization of our cost structure for our offline business and increase in portion of our revolving loan to…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from [Bruce Aurian] from New Haven Fund. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

First, I'd like to congratulate you on another outstanding quarter. I have two quick questions. Can you provide insight into whether the PRC government regards financial institutions like Yiren Digital favorably or unfavorably in the current political and economic climate? And my second question is, are you considering offering a dividend to shareholders?

Ning Tang

Analyst

Thank you for your questions. Hello? Yes, no, please go ahead.

Na Mei

Analyst

Okay. I think I can answer the second question. For the first question…

Ning Tang

Analyst

Go ahead. Go ahead, please.

Na Mei

Analyst

Okay. Okay. I will. Okay, thank you. I will answer the second question about our dividend [indiscernible]. Yes, you can see, we have purchased our share repurchase supply from the last December of last year. And by now, we have accumulated about $3 million to perform our share purchases. And by now, our management -- well, for our cash deposits, we're mostly focused on -- more opportunity to use our cash deposits to serve our own business and hope our business to have a stable and growth -- and we have growth and also want to increase our fund return ratio for now. So by now, I can say the Company has no dividend plan currently. And for this question, can tell me if any [indiscernible] to the question.

Ning Tang

Analyst

Okay. Let me cover the first question. Thank you for your compliment, and we will continue to draw our back, first of all. And regarding macro conditions, is like you must know that the past several years, things have been quite a dynamic for this sector, a lot of changes. And -- but now things have become much more stabilized. And the economy is recovering from the pandemic and really consumption is encouraged, small business is encouraged. And so, after the past few years of the dynamic period, we feel that recent macro environment is rather conducive to what we are doing.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from [Matthew Larson] from [Fincadia]. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thanks for taking my call. And again, a terrific quarter. If I could give some advice to all to bring greater recognition of your company, you're trading at essentially 1x earnings. If you make RMB0.70 a quarter, we can do the arithmetic, that's RMB280 a year, and that's less -- that's greater than what the stock is trading at, plus you have cash. I see your balance grew north of over $700 million. And that's several times what your market cap is. So I've got a couple of questions. I mean, first of all, the news release should have said earnings up 100% versus just reporting the earnings. I mean, I catch the people's eyes. And then you mentioned in your report an artificial intelligence initiative. If you would just say something like we've initiated an AI initiative and we expected to expand our business significantly. I mean that alone would come up on people's screens for U.S. investors as a rationale to invest in your company. And if they did -- they computed the numbers and saw how undervalue you are versus your balance versus your book value and your cash balance, I think that could get it higher. I assume you want your stock to go higher. I mean, frankly, I worked at Morgan Stanley when you guys went public back in December 2015, when you were a peer-to-peer lender and you exited that area because the government did not -- the PRC government frowned upon that, and you've done a great job doing so and you're making plenty of money. So, I think you got to get to the word out there and being more detailed and frankly, a little more hyperbolic, a little more animated in your news releases, I think, would gain attention. Let me ask this, though, after that in the detail because I've been an investor for a long time, and I'm frustrated. This stock should be $6 or $7, minimum, if not a lot higher. But on June 30, the PRC is going to be looking at companies that are capital light and are doing lending as you do and maybe make some changes and what have you. Since you have so much capital and you have a small loan book, do you keep your loans on your balance sheet?

Na Mei

Analyst

Yes, I'll answer your question. Yes, actually, for our lending business, we have the two models. One model is used our guaranteed income, it means like the hiring model. So the hiring model, the long -- is in our balance sheet, as you know. Yes, the second model is highly -- it's a life model that we decide to just do the performance and promotion and reference asset sales channel to our funding partner. And we just worked out our consulting revenue on funding partner and we don't have any guarantee responsibility. And for this model, the loan volume is now in our balance sheet. And now, we have both two of this model. And so for the first model, if we take the guaranteed responsibility, so lowering our balance sheet.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I think that's really the issue that to be licensed to make loans, one has to take some of the risk. And I'm seeing some of your former competitors or maybe competitors, whether it's XYF, QFIN, FINV, in particular, is keeping more of the loans on the balance sheet besides just being capital-light. Now as far as having all that huge cash balance you have, I see that you had a lot of income -- investment income. Was that just interest on your cash balance, which you should be getting these interest rates have risen and that should be a large part of some of your income?

Ning Tang

Analyst

Na, are you taking this question?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes. I mean you have a lot of cash, $700 million. What sort of interest are you earning on that?

Na Mei

Analyst

Okay. Yes, you can see we have about RMB5.9 billion attached deposits in our balance sheet. For our balance sheet -- for our cash basis, so we have -- actually, we have one, the profit is we have deposits and profit is our funding partner to make our financial products on the financial income, the first income. The second is actually we add -- from this year, we also, for our cash usage, for example, we have corporate, we trust companies to set up trust line for our own product in Hexiang. There are some figures for your -- for reference in the first quarter. Our own money set up the track the loan has already about RMB300 million for our loan volume. And the transaction amount expected to about RMB600 million by the end of the second quarter. So, we can use our own money to service our own product and we'll profit from the -- own profile in Yi Xiang Hua. Of course, we're still planning other U.S. next thing such as Tang Ning mentioned in our script. We have overseas strategy. We'll also use our own money to expand overseas opportunity. And there is some pre-expenditure on our overseas [indiscernible] business strategy. And also, we'll use our cash to -- cash on proper technology innovations, as Tang mentioned that we will set our AI lab, and I hope there will be more expenditure in the future as technical. And also, generally, we have -- as a management, we have tried our best to seek more opportunity to increase our fund return ratio and keep our stable profit.

Ning Tang

Analyst

Let me add to that. It's really great to meet an old friend and the past few years has been not easy for us and all the stakeholders around, but I feel bad about -- I have not been able to produce great returns for some of the people who have trusted us. So, we will continue to double our efforts to do a good job. Yes. I take your advice on making things more eye-catching, so on and we didn't so highlight the AI initiative because we've seen many people just use it as like a market logo, but we hope to really utilize it in our daily work and achieve good better numbers first. But yes, the point is well taken. We'll be more proactive in terms of communicating. But let me say a few words, I mean, about, our strategy and how to win in the coming years since you've mentioned like the stock price and so on. I mean the domestic lending business is a high growth and profit generating, although it's not top, top scale, but we are catching up. I believe in a few years' time, we will be able to largely catch up. But at the same time, we've been trying to do a very good job in insurance, which we like. And we've built a very good foundation for insurance. I think that will be a key differentiator. Another key growth driver strategy for us is some folks have done some work outside of China with some progress. But we believe after the pandemic, the field is good for us to get in to do a good job outside of Mainland China. And we've got started in the Philippines, but more to come. And so, these are the building blocks but we will try and do more, although we have no clear ideas other than utilizing AI as a tool to do the above things better. But we should have more ideas about how to really build the business.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And thanks for that oversight. I mean, literally, your stock should be a lot higher. I just think like a lot of companies from the PRC, they fall below the radar because people in the U.S. become disenchanted with a lot of companies. But yours, it just trades well below your liquid assets. Now you would, in the past, mentioned a share buyback, which would be very accretive and it certainly would be helpful. I noticed that none shares, it looked like, were purchased in the first quarter. You obviously have the money to do so. I mean you could easily buy back $10 million, $20 million or $30 million worth of stock. It would reduce your float, but what do you have to lose because your stock is trapped in the $2 range. So do you expect to buy back any shares if you're not going to do a dividend this quarter?

Ning Tang

Analyst

Na, you will take this question? I believe we keep doing share buyback.

Na Mei

Analyst

Yes. As I mentioned before, we performed our shares pay back from the December last year after the Board approved. And by now, we have used about $3 million to perform share repurchase. And for the...

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Is that $3 million -- sorry, Na, did you say $3 million?

Na Mei

Analyst

By this -- by today, we have used about $3 million to perform this, yes. And we'll keep on our share payback program, yes, because we have approved $20 million amount from our Board approved. So we can use this approved amount step by step, yes. And generally, we'll keep on our share payback until we use the rest amount, yes. I think we'll keep on doing this frankly for the rest of this year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Because the stock price is so low, you don't even have to be that sensitive to stock price. I mean, you could pay up to $3 or $4 a share. If you just put a bid in the market for 5 million shares, it would not only alert the investment community that there's a serious buyer but it would be very accretive to use since your book value is many times where it's trading at. So it's a plus-plus. I mean, with all the money you have, I can't imagine there's too many better investments than your own stock.

Na Mei

Analyst

Yes. I know you're concern and thank you for your comments. And I'll ask Mei Zhao -- some more final information to -- about why -- how we perform our share type offers because every day the company can't perform like this, shares amount is based on the U.S. regulator. So as we operate with our broker -- actually, we have now, as you mentioned previously payback, we have arithmetic about our share purchase. So as a communication with our broker, of course our performance shall payback based on the regular top, top. Yes, we have paid -- we have purchased the largest amount according to the -- this year. So we're now going to seriously to pay back debts because we must comply the rule basic. We have limited amount every day we can purchase from the, market, yes.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Yes, I know you're constricted by volume. But all right, listen, keep up the good work. I think you just got to get the message out to more investors because, again, AI is a marketing tool by many companies, but you guys have been using some form of AI for years. That's how you make your credit decisions by using algorithms and things like that. So, I think you should promote it because it's valid and make it very clear that you've doubled your earnings year-over-year and that you have complete upside. And I think that a news release such as that would generate some interest here. So thank you for your time and keep up the good work.

Ning Tang

Analyst

Thank you for the advice.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.