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Yatra Online, Inc. (YTRA)

Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Fri, Jun 3, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Yatra Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results. Today's conference is being recorded. And at this time, I would like to hand it over to Manish. Please go ahead, sir.

Manish Hemrajani

Management

Thank you, Irina. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Yatra's fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2022 financial results for the period ended March 31, 2022. I'm pleased to be joined on the call today by Yatra's CEO and Co-Founder, Dhruv Shringi. The following discussion, including responses to your questions, reflects management's views as of today, June 3, 2022. We don't undertake any obligation to update or revise the information. Before we begin our formal remarks, allow me to remind you that certain statements made on today's call may constitute forward-looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and are subject to several risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. For a description of these risks, please refer to our filings with the SEC and our press release. Copies of this and other filings are available from the SEC and also on the IR section of our website. With that, let me turn the call over to Dhruv. Dhruv, please go ahead.

Dhruv Shringi

Management

Thank you, Manish, and good morning, everyone. Before I begin, I just want to remind everyone that part of the March quarter, especially the month of January, was significantly impacted by Omicron. It seems a long time back now, but I just wanted to put that out there. And hence, we should view the discussion and numbers for the quarter in light of that fact. During the quarter, we witnessed a swift recovery post an Omicron-induced slowdown in the month of January, with both corporate and consumer businesses recovering to an exit run rate higher than our pandemic high in the recently reported December quarter. Despite January being severely impacted by Omicron, which led to a shutdown in various parts of India, our adjusted revenue for the quarter came in at INR 980 million, approximately USD 13 million, which is up 1% year-over-year and down only 6.2% Q-on-Q, despite air passenger traffic declining 20% Q-on-Q. This was on the back of strong recovery in business travel, especially in the second half of Feb and the month of March, as the impact of Omicron began to subside. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was INR 53 million, which is approximately USD 0.7 million, and this includes the investment behind the freight initiative. So if you exclude that out, our adjusted EBITDA for the travel business would have been INR 72 million, which is approximately USD 0.9 million for the quarter. Both our adjusted revenue and EBITDA came in ahead of consensus. We saw both business and consumer travel recover quickly through Feb and March and have continued on their upward trajectory in April and May. In fact, domestic passenger traffic in May 2020 (sic) [ 2022 ] was back to 90% of pre-COVID levels, and even our corporate travel business is currently…

Manish Hemrajani

Management

Irina, can you please open up the call for Q&A? Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] I will take our first question from Scott Buck at H.C. Wainwright.

Scott Buck

Analyst

Dhruv, do you have a dollar amount of the Omicron impact in January in terms of revenue?

Dhruv Shringi

Management

I think if you were to look at it and look at this from a linear perspective, I would say we lost somewhere in the range of about 20% to 25% at least off the quarter on account of that.

Manish Hemrajani

Management

The way to look at it would be, if you look at December traffic numbers, they were [ $2 million ]. And [ January ] traffic numbers came in at $6.4 million, and February was $7.6 million. So just to give you a sense of how the numbers changed over this couple of months.

Scott Buck

Analyst

Okay. Perfect. That's very helpful. And then I was hoping to get maybe a little bit more granularity around travel volumes and demand. I'm just curious, we're almost back to pre-COVID levels, but I'm wondering if the habits of travelers are similar, right? Are fare -- average fares at a similar rate? Are people traveling for shorter periods? Are they still staying closer to home? What are you guys seeing there?

Dhruv Shringi

Management

Sure. So sales have obviously gone up on the back of oil prices going up. And we've seen airfares go up materially Q-on-Q, but that hasn't deterred the demand. What we have seen is that on the leisure side, firstly, there's been a lot of disposable income that people have saved over the last couple of years, and everyone's been waiting to go out and travel. And this is literally the first clear window in the summer holiday period that people have had to travel. So we're seeing people traveling in droves in this period. It's still -- we've been more focused and more skewed towards domestic as opposed to international. International airfares are relatively higher compared to where they were historically. But domestic has picked up in very large numbers over the course of the last few months. On the corporate travel side, however, the story is different. There, we've seen international as well recovering very quickly despite the higher airfares. So we are seeing corporate recovery. As I said, we're now at a gross booking level of almost 90% of pre-COVID levels. So we are seeing very strong corporate recovery also happening. So in terms of -- if I was to pitch a difference between where it was pre-COVID and where it is right now in terms of behavior, the big difference we are seeing is in terms of online adoption, especially on the corporate side. So that's the big change which is happening. And in terms of the consumer side, the growth is much more broad-based across Tier 2, Tier 3 towns as well rather than being limited to the main [ 8, 10 ] cities. So online penetration in India seems to truly have deepened during the COVID period.

Scott Buck

Analyst

Great. That's been very helpful color. And then last one for me. I'm just curious, Dhruv, do you have a sense of what maybe your share of the corporate travel market is today versus what it was pre-COVID?

Dhruv Shringi

Management

We don't have a scientific number on that, Scott. So -- but anecdotally, at least the kind of recovery we are seeing, it seems that our recovery is faster than the market. The feedback that we have from the airlines and from our hotel partners is that recovery in general is around the 75% to 80% mark, and we are now trending at about 90%. So I think we are outpacing the industry, but we don't have any scientific way of putting that across.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Anja Soderstrom in Sidoti.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst

So I'm just curious, do you have the passenger traffic numbers for April and May?

Dhruv Shringi

Management

Yes. The passenger traffic numbers for May, we are trending at about 90% of pre-COVID peak.

Manish Hemrajani

Management

And April is 10.5 million.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst

Okay. And also in terms of the Indian IPO and the timing of that, how do you see the valuation being affected by the pullback in the market in the U.S.? You alluded to that India has not been as bad, but what do you see in terms of how that might affect the valuation of the listing in India?

Dhruv Shringi

Management

We think we are significantly undervalued in the U.S. right now. And our peers continue to trade at much higher multiples. Even if we were to look at a pullback, right, which has been there in India at very modest levels unlike the U.S. where it's been very stark, it would still put us at a very, very healthy premium to where we are currently trading.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst

Okay. That was helpful. And then in terms of the freight business, you gave some color on that, that that's trending very strongly for you. But how do you -- how is that sort of performing compared to your expectations? And do you think that might be even coming stronger in the -- how much revenue did it contribute this year? And how do you think that's going to be contributing for the next year compared to what you had expected before?

Dhruv Shringi

Management

See, for the freight business, we've said it will contribute between $4 million and $5 million in the coming fiscal year, right, which is the period from April '22 to March '23. We are very bullish on this business because what we have seen is that the supply chain disruption that has happened last year, the kind of price increases that companies have seen across the board, they've made them really realize that they need to adopt technology to be able to get a better handle on freight. And that's bearing good and rich fruit for us right now because we don't have to do a very hard sell, right? Companies themselves today are looking for technology solutions that bring some transparency into this opaque industry. So we are seeing very good traction at this point in time, and we remain very bullish on the kind of numbers that we've put out for this business.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question is from Lisa Thompson of Zacks Investment Research.

Lisa Thompson

Analyst

Just to dig a little deeper on the freight question. Can you just kind of describe what's your pitch to a customer when you serve them what you're offering? And what are they doing now that you're going to change for them?

Dhruv Shringi

Management

Sure. So today, how freight is booked is that customers will typically reach out to the various freight liners, ocean liners, and in the case of airfreight, to the airlines or to intermediaries. They will then get 1 or 2 responses from these guys. And on the basis of that, they will then form an opinion of which one to choose. What we are looking at doing -- so firstly, this is a very time-consuming process where there are multiple e-mails which are being exchanged between people, multiple phone calls being exchanged between the customer and either the intermediary or the ocean liner. And this will typically result in -- one query will have anywhere upwards of 15 to 20 e-mails being exchanged because there are so many variables in this. What we are looking at doing is putting together a technology platform where on a single screen -- once you've entered all your input criteria, on a single screen, you will be able to see all the options of various ocean liners and on another screen all the airliners which are available to the customer. And this instantly brings more transparency into the market. Today, when we speak to the CFOs or the purchasing head of some of the large customers that we work with, their constant gripe is that they don't have transparency on what options exist for them. So they don't know if their guys have reached out to -- if there are 5 ocean liners who are operating on that route or there is only 1 operating, right? And they don't know whether their guys have reached out to all 5 or they've just been lazy and reached out to only 1 or 2. So there is no way for them to know whether they've got the best deal available. By having this platform in front of them, it will bring instant transparency to the booking process. So that's what we are trying to solve for and move the power literally from the intermediary, as a platform, bring the power to the hands of the consumer.

Lisa Thompson

Analyst

All right. So are you getting paid as a subscription service? Or do you get a piece of the transaction?

Dhruv Shringi

Management

So at this point in time, it's more based on the piece of a transaction. But yes, longer term, we expect this to become more of a subscription service. But today, because we are coming from a relatively low base and we think there's a lot of growth opportunity out here, it's more revenue-accretive, we think, to be linked to a transaction value, which is being processed through the platform.

Lisa Thompson

Analyst

All right. Good. Going back to international travel, you said India has opened up somewhat to that. Has any more countries been opened up since the quarter ended? And which ones are left that are meaningful that you would like to see open?

Dhruv Shringi

Management

See, today, we are at a stage where pretty much everything is open. There are very limited restrictions. There still are some restrictions around people needing to have booster shots in place when they're traveling to certain countries in Europe or needing RT-PCR tests to be done. But otherwise, most countries are today open. So that way, we are seeing very strong recovery happening in international travel. One of the reasons why I said international travel is still at a lower level compared to domestic is because the international airfares are still quite high. International airlines flying from India, especially West bound, have to avoid flying over Ukrainian airspace or Russian airspace. So that extends the flying time and hence the price of the ticket. But the lag which is there in consumer spend typically that we would have seen on international travel is being made up today by business travelers. So out of India, it's today virtually impossible to get a seat to Europe or the U.S. in front of the aircraft. So business class, first class, the recovery over there has happened at a much faster pace than economy travel out of India to Europe and U.S., and that's been driven largely by recovery in the business travel side of things.

Operator

Operator

There's a follow-up question from Anja Soderstrom in Sidoti.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst

So I'm just curious, with the shortage of pilots and the crews that we see in the U.S. and bottlenecks at the airports in Europe specifically, how do you think that might affect your business in the coming quarters or months? And how is that also -- how is India faring with those same kind of problems?

Dhruv Shringi

Management

I think there are 2 aspects to it. What we are seeing firstly is that Indian carriers are able to ramp up faster because they don't face the same crew constraint. Some of the European carriers are definitely facing this as a challenge, and supply on certain European routes is still lesser than where it was pre-COVID levels. But what we are also seeing is we are seeing some of the Middle Eastern carriers step in aggressively to try and muscle into those routes. So while the European carriers might be losing a bit of market share, we think some of the Middle Eastern carriers are gaining at their expense. So overall, from a passenger perspective, we are seeing enough supply being available. It's just that it might not be the most direct route which was available earlier. So some of the flights on the direct routes might be limited, but at least the option to fly via some of the Middle Eastern cities is definitely available to customers.

Operator

Operator

There are no other questions at this time.

Manish Hemrajani

Management

Great. Thank you, Irina. Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. As always, we are available for follow-ups. Have a wonderful weekend.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And this will conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. Ladies and gentlemen, you may now disconnect.