Richard M. Brooks
Analyst · Credit Suisse. And your next question comes from the line of Betty Chen with Mizuho Securities.
All right, thank you, Betty. So I'll talk a little bit about how we're thinking about men's at this point and then Chris will answer your SG&A issue. Men's obviously, it's been tougher for us. And you're right, I think it's partially tough because we have had a long run in our men's business and we've had some terrific [indiscernible] who've grown significantly over the last few years. We -- and I might also add, the comments earlier about the difficult or tough November, as it relates to November, our tough winter business in men's, that was reflected in our men's business in outerwear cycle, too. So I think, some of this we'll see come around, it may take a bit more time here. But we have a lot of very exciting young brands that we're working with, and we're seeing good success in key markets with these young brands. And our experience over a long period of time, and like I said, in my earlier -- in my 20 years here at Zumiez, is things like this run in cycle. And we're happy to have other categories or the other departments lead the way, and we've seen other cycles like these where men's has been a laggard because of strong comparisons. And then before you know it, we find that next or real key emerging brand that becomes an all-store buy. We ride a new emerging fashion cycle. So I have to tell you that from my perspective on the men's side, I am actually really encouraged at how well our teams have done at managing against what are these -- some very difficult comparisons with some brands in the business and how well we've done in offsetting some of the losses we've had in some of those brands. And so this is normal cycle for us. Again, we're -- I think you look back historically, we have a very strong track record of finding ways to run gains no matter and using those cases -- some departments always running down and some departments always running up. And I think that's where we're at right now, and I'm optimistic, as always. I can't tell you what's going to be necessarily, but I'm optimistic, as always, that we're going to see the men's business. We'll find that next catalyst, we'll find that next brand that becomes an all-star buy, and we'll be able to ride that for then quite a period of time from that point forward. Chris?