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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Accuray Reports Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2021 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ken Mobeck, VP of Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Ken Mobeck

Analyst

Thank you, Jack, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Accuray’s conference call to review financial results for the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2021, which ended June 30, 2021. During our call this afternoon, management will review recent corporate developments. Joining us on today’s call are Josh Levine, Accuray’s Chief Executive Officer; Suzanne Winter, Accuray's President; and Shig Hamamatsu, Accuray’s Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that our call today includes forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated or implied by these forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause these results to differ materially are set forth in the press release we issued just after the market close this afternoon, as well as in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The forward-looking statements on this call are based on information available to us as of today’s date and we assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information or future events, except to the extent required by applicable securities laws. Accordingly, you should not put undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. A few housekeeping items for today’s call. First, during the Q&A session, we request that participants limit themselves to two questions and then re-queue with any follow-ups. Second, all references we make to a specific quarter in the prepared remarks are to our fiscal year quarters. For example, statements regarding our fourth quarter refer to our fiscal fourth quarter ended June 30, 2021. Finally, there will be a supplemental slide deck to accompanying this call, which can be accessed by going directly to Accuray’s investor page at accuray.com. With that, let me turn the call over to Accuray’s Chief Executive Officer, Josh Levine. Josh?

Josh Levine

Analyst

Thanks, Ken, and thank you to everyone joining us today -- highlights and our outlook for this coming year. I'm pleased to report that despite the challenging environment caused by COVID-19, we finished the fiscal year 2021 on a strong note with 17% year-over-year revenue growth in the fourth quarter along with 19% year-over-year gross order growth, both of which were ahead of our expectations. Given the external environment, we are encouraged with our full fiscal year 2021 performance that resulted in positive 3.5% year-over-year revenue growth. In addition to the positive revenue growth, we aggressively managed expenses and working capital, refinanced our debt with favorable terms and believe that we have positioned the business for future growth through the successful commercial launch of high impact technology upgrades. Other fiscal '21 highlights include the beginning of Type A system revenue recognition in China, which totaled $54 million for the full year, as well as construction completion of our China JV manufacturing facility and training center, which will support the market launch of our China Type B platform in the second half of fiscal year 2022. Additionally, during the fourth quarter, we improved our capital structure through successful refinancing of both our convertible notes and bank debt for an additional five years to 2026. With respect to the new bank debt, we reduced interest costs significantly over the old facility and expect to save more than $2 million in cash interest costs in fiscal year 2022. In summary, despite the challenging operating environment, we executed well, both operationally and financially and showed resiliency in our business model while continuing the cadence of meaningful technology innovation to help drive future growth. Revenue for the quarter came in at $110.9 million, which was an increase of 17% from prior year of fourth quarter.…

Suzanne Winter

Analyst

Thanks, Josh. We are very pleased with the Q4 performance and our momentum heading into fiscal year '22. As we enter the new year, it's worthwhile to reflect on this past year. FY '21 was a foundational year for the company and we are exiting the year in many ways as a transformed Accuray, one that we believe is in a stronger competitive position, able to drive consistent top-line growth and gain market share. Although, we like all companies were challenged by the COVID pandemic, the team executed well against the things that were within our control and delivered improved quarterly performance throughout the year. In addition, we focused our resources and investment in new product development to deliver on high impact innovations like ClearRT, Helical Imaging and Radixact, which with Synchrony real-time motion detection and adaptive delivery, has proven to be a powerful combination of tools that provide physicians with a competence to deliver ultra hypofractionated SBRT treatments with greater precision, minimizing dose to healthy tissue and expanding treatments to a wider range of patients. Since our broader market introduction in Q4, the market has shown strong enthusiasm for ClearRT, and we believe this will differentiate Radixact from conventional LINAC platforms and drive market share gains moving forward. As a company, we strengthened our leadership team, invested in people development, business process improvements and build a strong foundation to support future growth. We refined our vision and focused the organization on our mission of expanding the power of radiation therapy with a goal of extending life and improving the quality of those lives. The entire organization is focused on pushing the boundaries of our capabilities so that we will be recognized as best in class in delivering therapies with greater precision, improved patient experience and targeted treatments that we…

Shig Hamamatsu

Analyst

Thank you, Suzanne and good afternoon, everyone. I'll begin with some additional details on our financial performance for the fourth quarter, as well as our fiscal year 2021 and then focus on certain highlights for those periods. Gross orders for the fourth quarter were $112.7 million, which was up 19% from the prior year. For the fiscal year 2021, gross orders totaled $326 million, which was down 14% from the prior year, primarily due to the impact of the pandemic and normalization of China Type A system orders. Despite this challenging backdrop, we are pleased with our order performance that improved sequentially every quarter during fiscal year 2021, highlighted by a very strong finish in Q4. From a product mix perspective, the TomoTherapy platform accounted for approximately 65% of gross orders for the fourth quarter and CyberKnife accounted for the remaining 35%. For the full year, TomoTherapy platform accounted for approximately 60% from gross orders and CyberKnife accounted for 40%, which was consistent with prior year. Net age-outs for the quarter were $46 million and included $2 million of aging activities. During the fourth quarter, we had approximately $5 million of cancellations and FX and other adjustments of $1 million. As a result, on a net basis, we generated $63 million of orders in the fourth quarter. While the amount of age-outs remained higher than normal throughout fiscal 2021, due to the pandemic, we had $27 million of age-ins for the year, which was the highest we ever reported. We ended fourth quarter with backlog of $616 million, which is also the highest we ever reported. Turning now to our income statement. Total revenue for the fourth quarter was $110.9 million, up 17% compared to the prior year, led by strong year-over-year growth in EIMEA, Japan and China. On a…

Josh Levine

Analyst

Thanks, Shig. Relative to financial guidance in fiscal year '22, we believe our addressable market for global radiotherapy equipment and treatment planning will grow at approximately 3% to 4% in fiscal year 2022. While some watch out remains with uncertainty related to the COVID recovery, we believe that we can and will exceed market growth rates and are setting our expected revenue growth in the $410 million to $420 million range with the midpoint of that range representing 5% year-on-year growth versus fiscal year '21. For fiscal year '22 adjusted EBITDA, we are setting our expected range at $32 million to $35 million. While that might seem low relative to our $38 million finish in fiscal '21, we believe that our fiscal '19 adjusted EBITDA finish of $23.7 million is the best comparison to our forward guidance as it represents the last full pre-COVID year end adjusted EBITDA reference point. As you're aware, we've had the last few fiscal cycles impacted by COVID related spending cuts and aggressive cash preservation actions that made compatibility against fiscal 2021 unusually challenging, especially related to adjusted EBITDA. Our fiscal year '22 midpoint for the adjusted EBITDA range of $33.5 million represents a 40% increase at similar revenue levels versus fiscal year '19, which demonstrates the material improvements in operating leverage created over the past two fiscal cycles. These efficiencies have been realized primarily in the SG&A functions where we expect to spend approximately $17 million to $18 million less in aggregate in fiscal year '22 compared to the run rate we had for those functions in fiscal year '19. Additionally, improved operating leverage and SG&A has allowed us to increase our planned R&D spend materially in fiscal year '22 by reallocating a significant portion of OpEx into innovation related investments, focused on accelerating top line revenue growth, like those that Suzanne highlighted in her earlier remarks. Before we open the call to questions, I'd like to address the CFO leadership transition that was included in our press release. Shig Hamamatsu, Accuray's Chief Financial Officer has accepted a CFO role with a public company outside of the healthcare space. Shig's last day with Accuray will be September 3, 2021. On behalf of our Board and leadership team, I want to thank Shig for his service, dedication and contributions to Accuray over the past several years and wish him continued success in his new opportunity. The company has appointed Brandy Green, Accuray's Vice President and Corporate Controller as Interim Chief Financial Officer, effective September 4, 2021, and has initiated a national search to identify a permanent replacement. And with that operator, we're ready to open the line for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you [Operator Instructions]. And the first question will come from Josh Jennings with Cowen.

Josh Jennings

Analyst

Thanks for taking the questions and congratulations on the strong order growth performance and good luck Shig in your new seat. Josh, I know you guys don't provide guidance on new orders. But I was just hoping to understand any type of qualitative commentary you can provide just in terms of the sales funnel and then the new order outlook for fiscal '22?

Shig Hamamatsu

Analyst

I'm going to start and maybe Suzanne want to add some color to it. But from numbers perspective, you're right. We are not providing formal guidance. But right now, we believe that order will grow to a similar rate as we said for revenue, which was midpoint 5%. So I think that's a good kind of a target that we're thinking about for next year. And I think additional color that I can give you that is that the historically about 40% of annual orders fell into first half and then remaining 60% fell into second half. And I think we're going to continue to see that kind of a more second half heavy trend to continue into FY ‘22. And also last color I can give you financially is that we continue to anticipate Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4 the sequential order improvement within the color that I gave you. So maybe Suzanne, do you want to add anything?

Suzanne Winter

Analyst

No, I think you are exactly right. Customers are busy right now. I would say that, we're starting to see them re-engaging with us and again, many patients that were delayed or are starting to get treatment now. And so, what we're seeing is there is movement. And we believe that the market still is going to be in recovery mode and certainly, there is still a lot of moving pieces. But I think that the 3% to 4% is what we're expecting from an order standpoint as well. And we believe we'll go faster than the market.

Josh Jennings

Analyst

It was great to see the return of the Americas to growth in terms of new orders. And I wanted to see if you could help us better understand the replacement opportunity in the US, and then just how much success you're having or in the sales funnel even in the single and dual vault center segment of the US market? Just trying to figure out this momentum sustainable as we move into fiscal 2022 in the Americas.

Suzanne Winter

Analyst

We're very pleased with how we landed in Q4 and we see the momentum going into FY22 in the US markets. Much of it due to the innovation, the ClearRT with Synchrony and sort of the market forces moving toward ultra hypofractionation as well the new reimbursement environment. And so approximately 40% to 50% of the installed base in the US is eight years or older. So there's absolutely an opportunity to bring those customers up to the latest performance enhancements. And so we're very focused in both the US and our developed markets in Europe on bringing those customers and upgrading them to the latest performance. So I think it's sustainable for a while. I would say overall, as we look at the market, in general, the global radiation therapy market, 80% is replacement, 20% is new. We're participating obviously in both with what we're doing in China, as well as emerging markets and focusing on the replacement markets in the developed regions.

Josh Jennings

Analyst

And one last question is on the China JV, I apologize if you already reviewed this. But just any updated timing for Type B system approval and launch in China through the JV? And then just how should we be thinking about the timing of China JV turning profitable and the loss that came through the income statement was minimal this quarter? Any help there would be fantastic. Thanks for taking the questions.

Josh Levine

Analyst

Josh, the answer to the first part of your question is we don't see any from where we are right now, we don't see any change in what we've been communicating over the last several quarters. Relative to Type B market launch, we still believe it will be towards the second half or the end of the second half of the fiscal '22 year. So we're inside of the 12 month window at this point or will be soon. And all of the manufacturing facility qualification and validation testing is continuing. I think there probably was some delay in the BIMT testing, which is part of that quantification process that was related to COVID earlier this calendar year, but I think we believe the things were on back on track at this point for that. So I think we're still in a good place relative to the Type B launch. On the China JV situation, I'm going to pass it back to Shig.

Shig Hamamatsu

Analyst

The way we are thinking about right now on our JV financial impact looking forward by '22 is that we'll likely likely see that [contribution] to be new, I mean, they are likely to remain around the breakeven point in the near term as they continue to invest into the anticipated ramps for the Type B that Josh talked about, et cetera. And so I think it's more of a some of the core investment proceed in that revenue ramp that we're anticipating. And I think we've been saying that this is a third year of operation going in from JV perspective. And we've always thought that 30 year we should be starting to see some breakeven point and looking forward from that point on to be profitable. So again, this year the third year we anticipated them to be close to breakeven point, which is similar to what we reported this past year.

Operator

Operator

And the next question will come from Brooks O'Neil from Lake Street Capital Markets.

Brooks O'Neil

Analyst

Shig, I'm going to miss you. I wish you well. I've always enjoyed working with you and appreciate everything you've done to help me understand the company and the business. So two questions. First, you all did a great job of articulating all the positives. The things going on in the marketplace, the things you've done with your product line up, your organization, your financial structure, et cetera. So what I'm trying to understand is the negatives, what is holding you back? I personally have to just say, I'm disappointed with 5% growth guidance. And I'm just trying to understand why you can't do better.

Josh Levine

Analyst

So Brooks, I'll take the first attempt at that. The bottom line is this. I think that it's very possible, we can do better than that. I think one of the things that we believe is still relevant in the current context, current environment is some unknowns, obviously, related to the COVID environment. Although, again, as you heard Suzanne talk about earlier, through the last fiscal cycle, we put 76 devices in the ground that ended up going into clinical -- active clinical use. For a company of our size, I kind of stacked that up, quite frankly, against any of our competitors, on a size adjusted basis. And I think, we're trying to be thoughtful about the fact that there are still some elements here that we don't control and can impact. I mean, resurgence and COVID in different strains and what have you are things that are, I'd say, they're out there, we don't -- we we're going to continue on the path that we have been in fiscal '21 with regards to focus on the things that we think are the right drivers of the business. I think, though, that that midpoint in the range of 5%, is a starting point. And we hope that and believe that we're going to continue to grow faster than the market, and may be able to outperform that. But what we want to make sure that doesn't happen coming out of this is that we're too far out over our skis, if you want to call it that way, with still some unknowns out there. And so I’d say that's probably the best way to be thinking about this. We have never been more bullish on this business, on every aspect, product portfolio, quality of the team and again, the external environment, to the degree that we don't control it, we will adapt to it and we’ll flex as we need to. But I think that we have very visible momentum coming out of fiscal '21. And we are being cautiously optimistic, I'll call it that, the things that you're seeing from this business right now are very likely going to continue.

Brooks O'Neil

Analyst

I'm a big believer in under promise over deliver. And hopefully, we'll end up the end of next year feeling like that's what you did. So second question and I know it's a public call and there's a lot of people on here. But as you know, Josh, I've now gone through two CFOs. I think we're very capable people. So just share with us your perspective on why CFOs keep leaving. And we're not quite at the [Technical Difficulty] yet. And it feels like we're close but here goes another one. What do you think is going on there?

Josh Levine

Analyst

Brooks, in fairness, we've been pretty transparent with the fact that Shig is pursuing an opportunity outside of healthcare, outside of our space. We live obviously in a world, especially here in the Bay Area, Silicon Valley, where it's a very, very robust job market, free agency prevails. But Shig, as we said in his own words and I can confirm this again, there is nothing here that Shig is -- this is an opportunity external to the company that Shig is pursuing. This decision is his and his alone. And there is nothing related to the business per se that's the catalyst in any way for this decision for him. And I should let him talk about this in his own words in that regard, if you'd like to.

Shig Hamamatsu

Analyst

Brooks, it's purely a personal decision. I was just happen to be presented with the opportunity part of the industry that I was previously interested in. And there is nothing more that I think I can say with confidence that, if I think about three years ago when I took over the CFO compared to that situation to here now that we accomplished as a team a lot of things. I think we're in a better position from balance sheet perspective. Again, I think we're more profitable than ever before and we've got a new team that I've thoroughly enjoyed working with. And so there is a lot of exciting things ahead for Accuray. So just independent of that, I just made a personal choice to pursue another industry and it's just simple as that.

Operator

Operator

And the next question comes from Anthony Petrone with Jefferies.

Anthony Petrone

Analyst · Jefferies.

Shig, I want to extend my congratulations as well, very much enjoyed working together and hope we cross paths in the future. So good luck on the next shift here in your career. In terms of the installation cycles, maybe we can shift over to just an update on installs and the installation cycles at hospitals. You had the announcement out of Texas earlier this week on a potential slowdown in elective procedures. Obviously, that could suggest access to hospitals at least in the State of Texas could be compromised a bit. So when you think of installation cycles for radiation therapy and LINACs, where are we on install cycles and how do you think it's going to trend into the second half? And I'll have a few follow-up questions.

Suzanne Winter

Analyst · Jefferies.

Anthony, I would say what we're seeing is customers are with us actually. So we have a number of projects that we're working on. And so we have, as an organization, learned to be incredibly resilient and sort of understanding where the hotspots are and who and customer readiness. And so I would say, we're in a better position than we were a year ago. And we do expect it to slowly improve. And part of the reason why we expect it to improve is our customers are very, very busy. I mean, in many places, they're at capacity. They've got older technology. So there is catalysts to upgrading the equipment. And so we are seeing customers eager to accept install. And so again, as things change and there is a lot of moving parts, we are going to pivot to those customers that are ready to go and be in a position to be able to deliver.

Josh Levine

Analyst · Jefferies.

Anthony, one other point to what Suzanne's comments just alluded to, in the current environment, especially in those really really busy locations, throughput and workflow are absolutely critical. And I think the functionality of our workforce product in the form of Radixact right now is making a big difference. In terms of treatment speed, throughput, efficiency, set up, patient set up time, we're kind of firing on all cylinders at this point with that device set up time. Overall efficiency is really making a difference. And in the context of what the busy locations are dealing with relative to patient volume, that's a difference maker, especially if they're dealing with constraints from older generation equipment.

Anthony Petrone

Analyst · Jefferies.

And then couple of follow ups, would be one just on the RO, radiation oncology bundle, CMS proposals came out. It looks like there's some minor tweaks there. But maybe updated views as we approach implementation on the RO bundle on the US side. And then lastly on China JV manufacturing, just to follow up there a bit, specifically on the manufacturing side. Maybe just to sort of clean up the timelines. We were under the impression and I still believe it's intact that you'll be able to manufacture out of the JV, Type B systems specifically entering 2023. I just want to see if we got those timelines straight? Thanks.

Josh Levine

Analyst · Jefferies.

So let me pick them in the order that you pose them. RO-APM, guys probably saw as we did, CMS has announcement in roughly mid July about the release of the proposed PPS rule. There is no reason at this point unless there's some, again, some really, really significant macro level impact to this. And again, I'm not naive. I think that the pandemic and resurgence, what that looks like and the impact that it could have could change the timelines. But at this point, it feels like CMS is trying to get this thing rolled out once and for all on January 1, 2022. They still believe that there's about a third of all the radiation oncology activity or episodes that are being currently paid under more traditional fee for service Medicare reimbursement that will fall under the model. There was some minor modifications to the number of disease sites reduction, if you will, in one or two from where they had been in the original thought process and rollout or the announcement initially. And perhaps some minor tweaks to site -- point of care, site of delivery, if you will, on the freestanding center side. But I think, Anthony, our view is that this is not a matter of if, it's only a matter of when. I think that if the world kind of holds together relative to the pandemic, and we're not going to see major, major lockdowns again and major disruption in that context, I think that we should expect that, and we do expect that this will roll out in January of 2022. And again, our -- just to remind the listeners, our view is that we are really, really uniquely positioned here, given the emphasis and the the likely influence that the rollout of RO-APM will have on driving hypofractionated and ultra-hypofractionated procedures. It kind of swings the pendulum exactly in the way that our portfolio lines up to help customers treat patients more efficiently. So that's kind of the update on the RO-APM. On the China JV, again, I think that from a timing standpoint, there really isn't any change in timing. The thing that that probably was a little bit of a longer term, longer time impact for us was the engagement for BIMT to do. And they're the in cartridge testing arm that does the qualification and manufacturing validation testing in the tangent plan. They're actually engaged today and doing things on in some areas of their work on a virtual basis. But our view of the ultimate market launch timing for Type B hasn't changed at this point.

Anthony Petrone

Analyst · Jefferies.

And then just one last housekeeping one, if I could squeeze it in. Just on the China backlog as it sits. I think if I’m getting the math right, exiting last quarter, there was still 74 Type A orders in the backlog licenses, it was valued around $150 million. It sounds like now to date, you've realized $54 million. And that balance, let's call it, a little bit less than $100 million now, $94 million, $95 million or so, is still expected to be realized over the next 15, 20 months. Is that -- are those numbers still accurate and intact?

Shig Hamamatsu

Analyst · Jefferies.

Yes, you got the math right. The 74 licenses as of last quarter that we had one had $150 million system revenue value, all of which, as we just announced that $54 million of which has been recognized. So remaining would be $96 million by normal [round] number leftover, it will be that -- over the next several quarters.

Operator

Operator

The next question will be from Marie Thibault with BTIG.

Marie Thibault

Analyst

Thank you for taking the questions. And Shig, let me add my congrats to you, but we are going to miss you and appreciate the hard work you put in over the last few years. I wanted to ask a two part question here on China. First, just as a follow on to Anthony's question. Wanted to try to figure out if we should continue to expect kind of variability in some of that revenue recognition. By my math, it looks like about $13 million of Type A licenses in revenue this quarter. So just want to check that math and whether we can expect variability? And secondly, we've seen a press release on the China Isotopes Investor Relations site few days ago, seem to announce a third tranche of licenses. I wondered if you -- if that was accurate or what you could tell us about that?

Shig Hamamatsu

Analyst

I am going to answer the first part. So you got the math right on that we had $13 million of Type A revenue system running recognized in the fourth quarter. That is correct. And we do anticipate quarterly variability in FY '21. Again, it's mostly driven by customer installation requirements on a timing, so it's mostly related to that third tranche I guess, I'll let Suzanne speak to.

Suzanne Winter

Analyst

And the press release was correct. I mean again, we're working very closely with our customers in China on applications. And the third tranche, yes, we had 26 out of the 28 radiation therapy licenses, and so obviously we were very pleased with that. It was expected but it's great to see it come through, because it provides a greater clarity into what we had planned as we go into the next couple of years. But again, overall, when we look at the five year plan, we have 78% share of the Type A licenses. And we're very pleased with the brand recognition in the China market and we only think it's going to be translated when we get into the Type B segment as well.

Marie Thibault

Analyst

Looks like a high win right there again. Follow-up here then on net orders. Look like approximately $16 million below kind of a gross order number. Were there more age outs than usual, or what was kind of to explain that dynamic? And I appreciate the questions.

Shig Hamamatsu

Analyst

So I think, what I said in earlier remark, we had $46 million net age-out, Marie. So that was a driver for sure. And if I think about that, more than half of that 46 net age-out was China. And so again, I think, while we wait for the remainder of the license wins to be recognized into revenue over the next several quarters that I said earlier, we're going to see some of those age-out occur particularly in China. But again, we had $27 million of age-ins for the year, which are the highest in FY’21. So despite having the age-outs higher than normal near-term that we are confident that we'll get a good chunk of that back looking forward.

Josh Levine

Analyst

The interesting thing about the age-outs, especially when they're China dependent or China influenced, if you will, is that those customers are still holding a license, which is the important aspect of this. It really kind of makes it more of a matter of not if but when, from a timing perspective. So while you might see again quarter-to-quarter variability, as Shig talked about relative to age-out activity, those that are -- from a dependency standpoint, those that are China related are much higher level of likelihood or competence factor that they're going to age and they're going to go to revenue, just a matter of timing.

Operator

Operator

And the next question will come from Jason Wittes with Northland.

Jason Wittes

Analyst

And I'll echo sentiments earlier about the quarter and year-end, and also obviously pleasure working with Shig and best of luck in your new endeavor. But with that, just a couple of questions here. One, I guess, Josh, you made it pretty clear that the guidance is somewhat conservative, at least that's my read on one of the earlier questions. But I guess, you've got ClearRT and Synchrony actually starting to also show up as a greater percentage of sales. How does that incorporate into the guidance you gave? I mean, shouldn't -- is there a boost from those two products cycles or is that offset by COVID concerns?

Josh Levine

Analyst

So the answer is that, there is no question that the market reception to ClearRT and Synchrony have, looking at the performance in the second half and especially in the fourth quarter of fiscal '21, they've been a catalyst, Jason, relative to order activity and momentum. And we expect that to continue. These are probably the two most meaningful product and technology upgrades we've made to a core platform in I think probably my time here. Maybe except for the MLC initially back on CyberKnife back in 2013, 2014. But these are really because this is on our workforce platform. These are really meaningful upgrades. So I don't expect that the tailwind, if you want to describe it that way that they're creating, or that they've created in the last quarter or two, I don't think that's going go away anytime soon. The COVID situation is it is what it is. I think you've heard Suzanne say and I agree completely with her. We are showing a high degree of adaptability and flexibility on continuing to do what we need to do to get equipment installed, get equipment in the ground and get an ATP and get it into use, clinical use. And no one can predict for sure one way or the other. But I think unless we end up back in a kind of situation that resembles where we were a year ago with really, really end to end lockdown in hospitals where their sole focus is in ICU and critical care medicine, really focused solely and dedicated to treating COVID patients, which again, I don't think that's where we're headed. But again, I'm no better qualified than you are or any of the other listeners are to answer that question. Unless we end up there, I think that our momentum and the tailwind that you see is very likely to continue.

Jason Wittes

Analyst

So related to that, what's your sort of turnaround rate or turnover rate for order to installation? I mean, is it possible if you've got a strong first quarter, we see some of that in the fourth quarter or is that really going to be fiscal 2023 event given installation times?

Josh Levine

Analyst

And I think the variability there is that, the last part of that is, customer readiness. Again, I think as you heard in prior conversation from Suzanne, customers are really busy right now. And many of them are at approaching or at capacity kind of levels relative to patient flow, which is why device capacity, improved throughput and workflow efficiencies are having big positive impacts on, as a catalyst in customer decision making, on how rapidly they want to be able to get new equipment installed. And again, I hope and believe that that's likely to continue. Again, there were a lot of patients during the lockdown that were -- that could be deferred, that were deferred. And I think that the catch-up mode that people are in right now from a radiation oncology standpoint is it's not isolated to just one city, one facility, one region. I mean, there are examples of it, I can point that, you know, in all of our developed markets, quite frankly, at this point. And so again, I'd say at a macro level of kind of assessment, the indicators would tell me that again, that need is going to continue to be there for people who can and need to trade up to more efficient faster equipment, more capacity that's created through better efficiency and throughput. I think that's a tailwind that could continue.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Josh Levine for any closing remarks.

Josh Levine

Analyst

I'd like to thank everyone for joining us on the call this afternoon. I want to take this opportunity to thank all of our Accuray teammates around the world for their perseverance in the face of challenges related to the COVID pandemic, and for their collective contributions in support of how we performed as a company in fiscal year '21. I'm extremely proud of the way we executed and believe we strongly position this business for an exciting future. We look forward to speaking with you again in October when we host our Annual ASTRO Investor event and report our fiscal 2022 first quarter results. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.