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Q4 2025 Earnings Call· Mon, Mar 10, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. And welcome to Asana's Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2025 Earnings Conference Call. at this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the call over to Eva Leung, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Please go ahead.

Eva Leung

Analyst

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us on today's conference call to discuss the financial results for Asana's fourth quarter and fiscal year 2025. With me on today's call are Dustin Moskovitz, Asana's Co-Founder and CEO; Anne Raimondi, our Chief Operating Officer and Head of Business; and Sonalee Parekh, our Chief Financial Officer. Today's call will include forward-looking statements, including statements regarding the expected release and benefits of our product offerings, including AI Studio and our expectation for revenue to be generated by AI Studio, our expectation for our financial outlook, strategic plans, our market position, and growth opportunities. Forward-looking statements involve risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that may cause our actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. Please refer to our filings with the SEC, including our most recent annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly report on Form 10-Q, for additional information on risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that may cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in such statements. In addition, during today's call we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP financial measures are in addition to and not a substitute for or superior to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures and a discussion of the limitations of using non-GAAP measures versus their closest GAAP equivalents are available in our earnings release, which is posted on our Investor Relations webpage at investors.asana.com. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Dustin.

Dustin Moskovitz

Analyst

Thank you all for joining us on the call today. We delivered solid Q4 results while building the foundation for profitable growth and continued innovation. In Q4, total revenues were up over 10% year-over-year, exceeding the top end of our guidance when adjusted for the impact of currency by using prior year FX rates. This reflects continued stabilization in our growth rate. Non-GAAP operating margins improved more than 800 basis points year-over-year, from an operating loss margin of 9% to an operating loss margin of 1%. We expect to reach non-GAAP profitability in Q1 this year, which Sonalee will discuss in more detail. We hit a significant milestone in our company's history as we reached positive free cash flow for the full fiscal year 2025. I'm particularly proud of the team for managing towards this achievement while simultaneously investing in growth and establishing Asana as a multi-product company. Once again, our non-tech verticals grew faster than overall growth for the quarter, and were up 15% year-over-year, a slight acceleration when adjusted for currency. Some of our fastest growing verticals this quarter include manufacturing and energy, consumer retail, and media. We continue to make progress in our enterprise customer acquisition. Our $100,000 and over customers grew 20% year-over-year, and accelerated from last quarter. Overall NRR and core customer NRR were stable, and we saw an uptick in in-quarter NRR for these cohorts. During the quarter, we continued to execute on our enterprise strategy, made significant progress in improving profitability, and entered a new era as we established ourselves as a multi-product company with AI Studio. This quarter marks a pivotal moment for Asana as we chart our course towards becoming the definitive platform for human AI coordination. It starts with AI Studio. Even before general availability, the momentum is exceeding our…

Anne Raimondi

Analyst

Thank you, Dustin. On behalf of all Asanas, I want to extend my heartfelt appreciation for your unwavering commitment to our mission and thank you for your pivotal contributions in scaling our business. You have redefined how we work and collaborate and set the stage for the company to lead in the new era of human-AI collaboration. When a new CEO is named, I'm excited to work alongside you in your role as chair to define our AI strategy and vision and further our commitment to empowering global collaboration and driving long-term profitable growth. The strategic investments we've made and continue to make to strengthen our enterprise footprint are delivering meaningful impact. We continue to see strong expansion and renewals from our large enterprise customers, including Epson, Morningstar, a large global food company based in Europe, a leading customer relationship management platform company, and a cybersecurity company in the U.S., to name just a few. We set a new record for multi-year deals this quarter, a testament to our enterprise customers' confidence in Asana and the long-term strategic productivity and collaboration benefits we deliver. Through our integration with Amazon Q Business, which was announced by Amazon at their re:Invent conference this past December, Asana is now an even more powerful solution for enterprises looking to transform the way they work. This integration offers enterprises smarter workflows, improved productivity, and deeper insights that drive efficiency at scale. Our investment in vertically focused go-to-market teams and driving adoption of vertical-specific product use cases is resulting in strong growth in our non-tech verticals, which grew similarly to last quarter in the mid-teens, accounting for over 70% of our business. We are seeing particular strength in healthcare, manufacturing, retail and consumer goods, and media and entertainment. A few customer examples in our strategic verticals…

Sonalee Parekh

Analyst

Thanks, Anne. Dustin, I also want to share my sincere thanks for everything you have done to make Asana the great company it is today. I look forward to partnering closely with you in your new role as we establish Asana as the leading platform for human-AI coordination and usher in a new era of growth and profitability. Now, on to the quarterly results. Q4 revenues came in at $188.3 million, up 10% year-over-year. If we adjusted for currency impact by using prior-year FX rates, revenues would have been $189.1 million, up 10.5% year-over-year. We have 24,062 core customers, or customers spending $5,000 or more on an annualized basis. Revenues from core customers grew 11% year-over-year. This cohort represented 75% of our revenues in Q4, consistent with the year-ago quarter. We have 726 customers spending $100,000 or more on an annualized basis, and this customer cohort grew at 20% year-over-year, an acceleration for two consecutive quarters. As a reminder, we define these customer cohorts based on annualized GAAP revenues in a given quarter. Our overall dollar-based net retention rate was 96%. Our dollar-based net retention rate for our core customers was 97%. And among customers spending $100,000 or more, our dollar-based net retention rate was 96%. As a reminder, our dollar-based net retention rate is a trailing four quarter average calculation, and thus a lagging indicator. However, it's important to highlight the in-quarter trends as we go through this transition. Once again, our in-quarter dollar-based net retention rates were stable, and Q4 overall and core customer dollar-based net retention continued to improve and was slightly better than Q3. Now, moving to profitability where I will be discussing non-GAAP results. Growth margins came in at 90%. Research and development were $54.7 million, or 29% of revenue. Sales and marketing were $85…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Pinjalim Bora of JP Morgan.

Pinjalim Bora

Analyst

Oh, great. Thanks so much for taking the question. Sonalee, two questions for you. Maybe unpack the assumptions in the guidance a little bit. What are you assuming from an NRR standpoint? Are you assuming that going above 100% and then it seems like AI, you're saying some modest contribution there. Any way to quantify that? And then lastly, on efficiency, I mean, you're already, it seems like talking about a thousand basis point improvement to plus 5%. That's impressive. But as you embark on this journey, how do you define success? If we kind of look forward a couple of years, where does that 5% go? Where do you think are kind of the low-hanging fruits on kind of the OpEx lines and where they settle over the next couple of years? Thank you very much.

Sonalee Parekh

Analyst

Sure. Thanks for the question. I'm going to start and then I may hand over to Dustin just on the AI Studio part and then cover your question around the margin guide as well. So firstly, on putting the guide into context, first and foremost, what I would say is that if you look at the Q1 guide, there is a full two percentage points of impact that's factored in from both the leap year from last year that obviously didn't occur this year, as well as FX. So x that, our guidance would have been two percentage points higher on top line. And that's because on a currency basis, about 25% of our ARR is non-dollar denominated. And then if you also look at Q1 last year, so Q1 ’25, although typically Q1 is a seasonally weak quarter for us, if you look at Q1 ’25, it was actually a very strong growth quarter in terms of revenue growth, but a less good quarter in terms of bookings. So it's also an extremely difficult comp. So what I would say there is as I think about Q1, I'm thinking about acceleration in terms of ARR growth. So ARR growth is expected to outpace our revenue growth in Q1, and that actually should hold true for the full year as well. Now, obviously we don't guide on ARR, but I think it's important just in terms of understanding that ARR is the leading indicator and that we do expect to outpace our overall revenue growth for the year. I'm just going to hand over to Dustin on the AI Studio impact in that guide.

Dustin Moskovitz

Analyst

Yes, great. We knew this would come up because on the last quarter's call, I was very enthusiastic about AI Studio, and I still am. But I mentioned I really think of it as a very high beta opportunity. So it could be a solid base hit for the company or it could be a grand slam. And I want to explain why it's been hard to narrow the range of expectations, and that's why we haven't given you a more exciting guide or more data to build a proper model. So when we've been forecasting internally, we repeatedly come to two specific variables that the model is incredibly sensitive to, but they're actually tiny percents with very large error margins. So they create big swings in the outcome. So the first is how many of our customers are going to adopt Studio at all? And generally, how many of our users are potential workflow builders? So we've started by approaching our power users, the people who we think make great early adopters. That's going really well. I think we can forecast that now. But there's a much larger potential population of non-power users. And the difference between converting 1% or 3% or 5% of that population is just a massive swing in the model. And it's really going to depend on things like how effective our marketing is and how easy we make it to customize out-of-box workflows. So I think we're going to learn a lot more about that when we launch self-serve around mid-year and as we improve the builder experience and the out-of-box workflow experience. Second big one, and I think this will be universal to all consumption AI models. Internally and externally, I've seen people try and estimate the average level of consumption to understand…

Sonalee Parekh

Analyst

Thanks. And now just to address your question on margins and just how high can they go. So you're absolutely right. We're really pleased with what we managed to grow margins in Q4. And you obviously saw how I guided on Q1 in terms of operating margin, which is 1% to 2% versus the full year guide of 5%. So it's really implying a continued sequential increase in operating margin, which we feel really confident about. And you can imagine that at Q4 where we're likely to exit, again, looking at that 1% to 2% to 5%, it will be significantly higher than 5%. So that's what we go into fiscal year ‘27 at. And then if you factor in the operating leverage, when you consider we're a close to 90% gross margin business that continues, as well as continued discipline that we will be employing around our hiring as well as discretionary spend, some of the things that we called out in this past quarter, you should see a continued evolution in that margin. In terms of where we can go on a 3 to 5-year view, I would say there's still a lot more to go for. I'm not actually going to guide on this call, but I would say the trajectory that you're seeing, that 1,100 or over 1,000 basis point improvement this year, we do feel very confident that we'll be able to continue at a similar rate.

Dustin Moskovitz

Analyst

And I just want to add, just in case there's a follow-up, we've got a long queue. So we're going to keep things to one question and one follow-up or three questions and no follow-ups. So we'll go to the next caller.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Funk of Bank of America.

Michael Funk

Analyst

Yes, thank you for the question. And first, Dustin, congratulations on everything you've achieved. And good luck with the next chapter, if you know more philanthropic activities. So first, you mentioned during the call a few times aligning price to value and refining pricing and packaging. Just wanted to better understand what the quantification of that means. So, I mean, it sounds as if lowering pricing to make the product more attractive, customers stickier. And then I also just want to know, as part of the first question, if that would impact the guidance for fiscal year ‘26, the alignment of pricing?

Dustin Moskovitz

Analyst

Yes, great. So first, I just want to point out, particularly in a SaaS product, pricing and packaging isn't just about picking one particular point on a spectrum for the price. It's really about having the right menu of options to align price to value. And that alignment, whether or not you're aligned, is specific to both regional and macro dynamics. So what I've observed in the macro cycle is just more cautious buying behavior and customers becoming more budget conscious. And that means the growth opportunity involved in getting those details right has dramatically increased. So previously inelastic patterns are now more elastic. And so it matters a lot more exactly where you are on the spectrum for each of your product offerings. And relatedly, customers want a lot more agency in choosing how their budget is leveraged. So we have a spread of packages and we're introducing new products, starting with AI Studio. So we really have a massive opportunity to accelerate growth by dialing in those variables better. And we have a lot of testing on this as well. So our intention is to go forward with this, with everything being accretive. So if things are working, expect the guidance to go up. And if things aren't working, I expect not to change things. And additionally, Asana was built in a way that gives you increasing returns to scale when you deploy it further in a company. So we get second order benefits to improving alignment as well.

Michael Funk

Analyst

Great. Dustin, thank you for that. And then quick, I'll check my understanding of the strategy. I thought that previous commentary, last quarter's commentary, if I'm wrong, please correct me, was greater focus on NRR, so current customers, and less on net new. Tonight, you said that new business focus, shifted focus to new business acquisition. So is that a shift in the strategy? And then if it is, what led to that shift in the strategy, away from prioritizing existing and more towards net and bill?

Dustin Moskovitz

Analyst

I don't know that it's a shift in the strategy so much as a reflection of what's going on in the math. So part of it is what we've been saying about the split between tech and non-tech. And so non-tech is a drag on overall growth, and it's a drag on NRR as well. The flip side of that is that non-tech looks better. And because NRR is under 100% as well, new business looks better too. It's better than our overall growth rate. So we're seeing some strength there, and we want to double down on places where it's really working. So that includes verticals, and then also our channel business is something we're really excited to scale. And so it's really about seeing a lot of opportunity there. Not to say there isn't opportunity in the NRR, but I think the place that that's really going to inflect is as we roll out AI Studio, which again, we're well underway, but it'll take a couple of quarters for it to scale in terms of expansion revenue. But we're already starting to see it be really useful in renewals as well. So it can protect us from downside and just give the sales team a few more options in how they structure deals. So I do expect to make progress on both. I just think the NRR progress will be a little more backloaded, and the NRR strength is what we're seeing right now.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Rob Oliver of Baird.

Rob Oliver

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Good afternoon. My question is for Anne. Anne, I know one of your priorities is channel, and I was hoping you could provide a little bit more color. I know this has been a priority of you guys now for a little while, so I wanted to understand when you're looking at FY26, what is new in terms of the strategy and what's going to constitute success at this point next year? Is it going to be a number of new partners, new regions? I know Dustin called out the importance of partners to AI Studio. So a little bit more color on that would be great. And then I just had a quick follow-up for Sonalee.

Anne Raimondi

Analyst

Hey, Rob. Thanks so much for that question. Yes, with channel, I think there's a few things. We definitely recognize we're underpenetrated with channel. It's currently only a single-digit percentage of revenue, and we know it has the potential to be much larger. As Dustin mentioned, we are also really excited about channel because it's an important driver of AI Studio, and we're really rapidly expanding the number of partners that are enabled on AI Studio. So that's one thing that we're doing much more of. In addition to AI Studio, partners continue to help us extend reach both geographically as well as in our target vertical markets. And then customers that are working with partners are seeing significantly higher net retention rates. So all of that has influenced us to reallocate more resources to channel. Something we've already implemented at the end of last year, and we're continuing to do, is a new channel strategy, so more enablement. We brought our partners to our global sales kickoff recently, and that was great just to have much more sort of aligned strategies and work really closely with them. So as we bring on more large systems integrators around the world, I think we're excited about that opportunity. But overall, I would just say much more of it is seeing the progress. You asked about in a year from now, what would good look like? I think it's that we're partnering with our channel partners to grow their businesses and grow with our customers. I think the other is much more channel source revenue. So we're monitoring all of that really carefully.

Rob Oliver

Analyst

Helpful. Yes. Thanks for all that color. And then Sonalee for you, just I know you said in your prepared remarks that the guidance for the top line assumes no material change to the current macro for SMB or enterprise. And that comment comes on a day where the market is forecasting a material change. So I just wanted to get a sense for what sort of baseline you're factoring in there of that guide and any more color on that to help us understand what that means would be great. Thank you.

Sonalee Parekh

Analyst

Sure. Absolutely. So yes, I did make that comment. And obviously, we are watching things unfold in the market daily as you all are. What I would say there is we're guiding based on what we've seen over the last couple of quarters. And you've heard us call out macro impact. And we've talked about some challenges we've seen on upsell and NRR. And although we're really pleased with the stabilization, we've seen in overall net retention and core net retention, we've still seen challenges in the tech vertical. So we feel that the way we've guided is really still incorporating a soft macro, on the soft macro that we've been seeing over the last couple of quarters, but no significant degradation to that.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brent Bracelin of Piper Sandler.

Brent Bracelin

Analyst

Good afternoon, Dustin. 17-year journey here impressive. Can you just walk us through maybe the timeline of the succession plan? Is this something your goal and aspiration is to implement over the next six months, 12 months? Is this all external and internal? Any color there? And then, Anne, could you also weigh in on demand front as well? Had some questions just around the tariff wars, a lot of uncertainty out there, recessionary fears. What are you seeing top of funnel on the enterprise side? Any color there? Just as we go into another period of uncertainty would be super helpful. Thank you.

Dustin Moskovitz

Analyst

Yes, I'll jump in first on the timeline. So this is really the beginning. So we announced that we did hire a search firm. And so we're kicking off the search, but there's no specific timeline or deadline for completion. I'm here for the duration. Feel pretty confident. You'll still have me on the next earnings call in case you have some more questions you have for me. But we're really focused on ensuring we have the highest quality leadership for Asana's next step. So we'll be as patient as we need to. But we've retained a leading executive search firm to find the next CEO. And their reaction has been that this is a great opportunity. They expect us to find somebody great and hopefully on not too long a timeline. But we'll have to see how it goes. And like I said, I'm here for the duration. And I really think of the fiscal year ‘26 plan as my plan. And my personal goal is to be able to build the fiscal year ‘27 plan together with the next person. But there's still plenty of time left remaining to make that happen.

Brent Bracelin

Analyst

Helpful colors. And then, Anne, yes, anything, any color on what you're seeing out there in the yet another year of uncertainty?

Anne Raimondi

Analyst

Yes, no, I appreciate that question, Brent. I think in Q4, we largely saw sort of similar sentiment as Q3. Tech is definitely continuing to adjust spend and decision timelines continue to be elongated. We have not seen customer sentiment degrade thus far, but we also appreciate there's just a lot of uncertainty right now and things can and will likely change quickly. So we're paying close attention to that in all of our customer conversations. I do think our focus over the last year on diversification and investments in additional verticals like retail, manufacturing, financial services have helped us with kind of steady and consistent growth, especially outside the U.S. But again, we know things could change rapidly. So much of that is just being close to our customers and really understanding where their priorities are. Probably the bright spot is that last quarter, the AI Studio pipeline generation is really strong. It shifts the conversations that we're having to higher executive levels. And thus far, we've certainly seen that prioritization of AI and AI investments has continued.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Steve Enders of Citi.

Steve Enders

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess, just to start, Dustin, so the firm's out looking for a new CEO. I guess, what are the things that you're looking to prioritize or what are the characteristics of the new CEO that you're looking to bring in to take this company to the next level?

Dustin Moskovitz

Analyst

Yes, great question. So first of all, really looking for someone who's passionate about the Asana mission and aligned with our values and culture. So if they don't appreciate the parts of Asana that make us who we are and got us to here, they won't be successful. And table stakes we're definitely looking for somebody with relevant experience building and leading high-performance teams in a SaaS environment at the scale that we're looking to get to in the coming years. But on top of that, I'm personally looking for a strategic first principles thinker who's going to be able to be agile and anticipate the important shifts during the transformative years to come for the tech industry.

Steve Enders

Analyst

Okay, that's great to hear. And then just for a quick follow-up, like, I guess I'm trying to understand, I guess, maybe some of the disconnect between, I guess, what looks like strong billings or strong RPO in the quarter and that committing kind of more in the mid-teens range or low to mid-teens range and the guide for next year. So can you just kind of help us think through what's being accounted for? Has there been kind of incremental churn or just help us think what's actually being accounted for between the strength that looks like in the quarter versus the outlook?

Anne Raimondi

Analyst

Yes, sure. So I'll take that one. If you think about our business today and obviously RPO and CRPO, that does not include the part of our business that is on monthly billings. And that's actually quite significant. It's about a third of our business. So you're absolutely right. RPO and CRPO, which are typically leading indicators and grew very, very healthily in Q4, you have to take into account the fact that one third of our business is not included in that. And the other thing I would just say on net retention, I think it's important to really look at the tech and non-tech portions of our business. Now, we have fairly successfully diversified away from tech. So about 70% of our business today is non-tech. And by the way, growing mid-teens for the second quarter in a row. But if you look at the tech vertical, the NRR in the tech space is actually worse than the overall net retention rate. So that ends up being a drag to our outlook and our growth as well.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Alex Zukin of Wolfe Research.

Arsenije Matovic

Analyst

Hi, this is Arsenije for Alex. Thanks for taking the question. Understanding NRR is a lagging metric, but the worsening in over $100,000 customer NRR coming in below core NRR was, I think, the first. I'm just trying to understand what drove that given the improvement last quarter -- in quarter NRR. Is that dollar turnout renewal, specifically maybe in the tech space, or is there some worsening in gross retention? And just a brief follow-up. Thanks.

Anne Raimondi

Analyst

Yes. So at the risk of sounding repetitive, yes, it was in the tech vertical where we saw a bit of weakness in NRR. So if you look at the -- in Q3, we had called out several large churns that we had seen in the first half of the year. We saw more, not to the same magnitude, but we saw several one-off churn events as well in our tech vertical. These were more downgrades. So we've retained the logo, but it was actually several tech customers that downgraded this quarter, and that impacted the net retention in those larger customers because they happen to be large customers. But again, I'd point to the fact that we still very much see stabilization in our net retention overall. And that's for several quarters now in a row. So overall net retention was stable in quarter net retention, and as well as for the core customers where we saw stable overall in quarter.

Arsenije Matovic

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then just on the follow-up, with the larger amount of those over $100,000 customer adds in the quarter, is that more of a testament to new business being stronger versus expansion that could maybe support larger customer NRR in fiscal ‘26? Is that expected to maybe continue to be a headwind in fiscal ‘26, or do you think that can recover in fiscal ‘26? And I guess when, could we maybe see that offset some of the dollar churn that you're seeing from the tech vertical [inaudible]?

Anne Raimondi

Analyst

Yes, I'll take that, this is Anne. Yes, the addition of almost $120,000 over $100,000 accounts is reflective of the strength in new business. That was up sort of 20% year-over-year. And some of the investments we've been making in faster and better onboarding, making sure customers are implementing the most valuable use cases and getting clear value. And then as Justin mentioned earlier, I think the opportunity certainly with AI Studio and add-ons, I think those we believe will all help with NRR going forward.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brent Thill of Jefferies.

Brent Thill

Analyst

Thanks. Just on the sales changes, I was hoping if you could elaborate. Is that a big change in the go-to-market, or is this a 5% to 10% finetune? How do you characterize the changes that you're making in a go-to-market?

Anne Raimondi

Analyst

Yes, it's Anne. I'll answer that, Brent. Thanks for that question. It is more a finetune. I think it's really a reflection of reallocating and reinvestment into higher growth areas. So we've mentioned channel. We also are investing or shifting resources to higher-performing marketing programs, our vertical teams, post sales and customer success, and then building out a dedicated AI Studio team. We also feel like the better design that we've had now in territories and focusing resources in the most productive areas is going to continue to drive productivity increases and improve our overall sales efficiency. So just looking at where we have good positive signal and making sure we're shifting resources there.

Brent Thill

Analyst

Okay. And then I think just maybe trying to reconcile low 20% RPO to now you're guiding the high single digit growth, I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I just try to understand the bridge, why there would be such a disconnect, and then looking at sub-10% growth, why in a market that seems like it's growing double digit, what's happening?

Anne Raimondi

Analyst

Yes. So on the RPO specifically, what I tried to make clear earlier is that only covers about two-thirds of our business. And the other thing I would say is that Q1 disproportionately drags our overall guide, and that took a two percentage point hit due to currency leap year. And actually, if you look at our quarterly or sequential quarterly growth, it improves as some of our investments start to kick in, particularly in the back half where you see a nicer contribution from things like AI Studio, which we've said is modest in the overall guide, but is still very heavily backend loaded. And then the other thing I would point to is, and I believe I'm more focused on this metric, is ARR growth. And our ARR growth will outpace our revenue growth every single quarter in fiscal year ‘26. And as we exit fiscal year ‘26, we'll set us up for a re-acceleration in revenue growth for ‘27.

Dustin Moskovitz

Analyst

I just want to add one more thing to that that I think factors into the growth rate of CRPO, which is we've been talking a lot about multiyear deal strength this quarter and last. And that's kind of a new motion for us. And so maybe in a business where we've been doing that for five or 10 years, I think CRPO would be a better leading indicator. And if we didn't have the monthlies, it would be a better leading indicator for growth. But because it's new for us, that meant we were able to sort of grow quickly off of a smaller base. And I think it'll sort of trend back down towards the growth rate over time.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference back to Eva Leung for closing remarks. Madam?

Eva Leung

Analyst

Thank you everyone for joining us on today's conference call. If you have any questions, please feel free to give me a call or email us at ir@asana.com. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.