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Bank of Hawaii Corporation (BOH)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Mon, Jul 28, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Bank of Hawaii Corporation Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Chang Park, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Chang Park

Analyst

Good morning and good afternoon. Thank you for joining us today for our second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me today is our Chairman and CEO, Peter Ho; President and Chief Banking Officer, Jim Polk; CFO, Brad Satenberg; and Chief Risk Officer, Brad Shairson. Before we get started, I want to remind you today that today's conference call will contain some forward-looking statements. And while we believe our assumptions are reasonable, the actual results may differ materially from those projected. During the call today, we'll be referencing a slide presentation as well as the earnings release. Both of these are available on our website, boh.com, under the Investor Relations link. And now I will turn the call over to Peter.

Peter S. Ho

Analyst

Thanks, Chang, and good morning or good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for your interest in Bank of Hawaii. The second quarter of 2025 was another solid quarter for the bank. Earnings per share advanced for the fourth consecutive quarter. Net interest income and net interest margin expanded for the fifth consecutive quarter as our margin reversion continues towards more historical levels. Expenses were well controlled. Credit remains pristine. Capital advanced to 14.2% on a Tier 1 basis, while ROCE at 12.5%. I'll begin by quickly reviewing our core and long-standing operating strategy and then touch on conditions in our core Hawaii market. I'll then kick it over to Brad Shairson to discuss our credit profile, and then Brad Satenberg will expand a bit on the financials and this is his first earnings call as officially our new CFO. As I think most of you know, Bank of Hawaii has a unique business model. Fundamentally, we lean into a unique marketplace in which 4 locally headquartered banks hold more than 90% of the market's FDIC reported deposits. We've built a fortress market position by leveraging a best-in-market brand position, which enables us to deposit price attractively. This cost advantage has historically allowed us to generate strong returns on a superior risk-adjusted basis. We've been successful on both a short- and long-term basis, methodically building market share. For several quarters now, we've been successful in stemming deposit remix from lower or no-yield deposits to higher-yielding deposits while holding overall deposit levels relatively stable. This has helped us bring down both our cost of interest-bearing deposits and total cost of deposits. Concurrently, our fixed assets have been remixing into higher-yielding earning assets. In the quarter, $572 million in fixed/variable assets cash flowed off at a roll-off rate of 4% and into a roll-on rate of 6.3%. It is this slowing of deposit remix matched with the continued yield accretion in the fixed asset cash flow that has largely enabled us to drive up both net interest margin and net interest income for 5 quarters now. Assuming rates hold, we would anticipate that this trend will continue approaching more historic NIM levels, albeit with substantially higher earning asset levels than previously. Switching to local market conditions. Here, you can see that the employment picture in Hawaii continues to outperform the broader U.S. economy. The visitor industry remains solid with visitor expenditures up 6.5% year-to-date and arrivals up 2.8% through May. This growth is being driven by the U.S. continental market, both East and West and offset partially by lower international performance out of Japan and Canada. RevPAR continues to perform consistently. Residential real estate in the islands remains stable with single- family home prices rising modestly, while condo prices were off 0.5% year-to-date. And now let me turn the call over to Brad Shairson to talk about credit. Brad?

Bradley Shairson

Analyst

Thanks, Peter. The Bank of Hawaii is dedicated to serving our community. Lending in our core markets where our expertise allows us to make sound credit decisions. Most of our loan book is comprised of long-standing relationships with approximately 60% of clients in both commercial and consumer having been with us for over a decade. This combination has significantly contributed to our strong credit performance over the years, resulting in a loan portfolio that is 93% Hawaii, 4% Western Pacific and just 3% Mainland, where we support our clients who conduct business both in Hawaii and on the Mainland. As I review our credit portfolio's second quarter performance, you will see that it has remained strong and consistent with recent quarters. Our loan book is balanced between consumer and commercial with consumer representing a little over half of total loans at 56% or $7.9 billion. We predominantly lend on a secured basis against real estate. 86% of our consumer portfolio consists of either residential mortgage or home equity with a weighted average LTV of just 48% and a combined weighted average FICO score of 800. The remaining 14% of consumer consists of auto and personal loans, where our average FICO scores are 731 and 760, respectively. Moving on to commercial. Our portfolio size is $6.1 billion or 44% of total loans. 72% is real estate secured with a weighted average LTV of only 55%. The largest segment of this book is commercial real estate with $4 billion in assets, which equates to 29% of total loans. Looking at the dynamics for real estate in Oahu, the state's largest market, a combination of consistently low vacancy rates and flat inventory levels continue to support a stable real estate market. Within the different segments, vacancy rates for industrial, office, retail and multifamily…

Bradley S. Satenberg

Analyst

Thanks, Brad. And before I jump into our financial results for the quarter, I'd like to take a moment to recognize my predecessor, Dean Shigemura, and thank him for his outstanding leadership, mentorship and invaluable contributions to the bank over the past 26 years. I also want to congratulate him on a well-deserved retirement. Now moving into the financials for the quarter. We reported net income of $47.6 million and a diluted EPS of $1.06, an increase of $3.7 million and $0.09 per common share compared to the linked quarter. These increases were primarily driven by the continued expansion of our net interest income and net interest margin, which increased by $3.9 million and 7 basis points, respectively. As Peter mentioned, this is the fifth consecutive quarter that we expanded both our NII and NIM. A primary reason for this improvement is our fixed asset repricing, whereby cash flows from our fixed rate assets are rolling off at lower interest rates and being reinvested at higher current rates. During the quarter, this repricing contributed approximately $3.2 million to our NII. Partially offsetting this benefit is the deposit remix, which represents deposits shifting from noninterest-bearing and low-yielding deposits to higher cost deposits. The deposit mix shift has moderated during the past several quarters. And during the second quarter, the mix shift was $59 million and had a $500,000 negative impact on our NII. This compares to a mix shift of $37 million during the first quarter and $448 million during the same period last year. During the quarter, the cost of our deposits remained stable at 160 basis points compared to the linked quarter and declined by 21 basis points compared to the same period last year. Our beta on this recent downward cycle is currently at 29%. During the quarter,…

Peter S. Ho

Analyst

Thanks, Brad. This concludes our prepared remarks, and now we'd be happy to take your questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Jeff Rulis of D.A. Davidson.

Jeffrey Allen Rulis

Analyst

I wanted to check back in on the margin path. I think we've kind of talked about or you've referenced maybe a 250 margin by year- end, maybe not a Q4 average. But I want to see if that path is reasonable. And kind of the second part of that question is sort of the cost of funds sort of stalling out a little bit and I think mentioned some CD opportunities, but particularly on that side, it sounds like the opportunity is on the earning asset yield, but sort of 2 parts. Sorry for the lengthy question.

Bradley S. Satenberg

Analyst

Sure. This is Brad. I think -- as far as the NIM, I do think 250 is an achievable number. I don't see anything that's going to get in the way of that path. I mean, again, this was our fifth consecutive quarter of expanding our NIM, and I think that's going to continue. As it relates to our cost of deposits, our spot rate at the end of the quarter was at 1.58%. And I do think our beta, it is at 29%. I think after the CD repricing this quarter, I think we've got the opportunity to pick up about 15 to 25 basis points on that CD repricing. I think our beta is going to be north of 30%. And so I think we're going to see this quarter, assuming no rate cuts, a continued beta that continues to move towards 35%.

Jeffrey Allen Rulis

Analyst

Perfect. Okay. And more of an other question is just on sort of balance sheet growth, based on loan growth, more of the question on securities, should loan growth be on a net base be modest? Do you see yourself continue to grow the securities balance from here?

Bradley S. Satenberg

Analyst

Yes. Yes, I do think we're going to continue to see the securities portfolio grow. I mean, I think this quarter, the cash flows were about $170 million, and we invested in our investment portfolio about $270 million or $275 million. So we are increasing that portfolio when we see an opportunity if there is modest loan growth or if liquidity increases, we're using that excess liquidity at the moment to increase our investment portfolio.

Peter S. Ho

Analyst

I want to touch on the diversity of what we're purchasing in the portfolio.

Bradley S. Satenberg

Analyst

Yes, that's a good point. I would also add that we continue to sort of balance our purchases between fixed and floating rate. And so this quarter, it actually leaned more towards floating rate. I think 55% of our purchases are floating securities. And then the other portion, obviously, 45% are in fixed securities.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jared Shaw of Barclays.

Jared David Wesley Shaw

Analyst

I guess maybe just on C&I, any trends that we should be thinking about that to call out on the delta there this quarter? And how is commercial customer sentiment and pipelines and thoughts for the year there?

Peter S. Ho

Analyst

Yes. I'll -- Jerry, maybe I'll start and Jim can specifically speak to C&I. On the commercial book, we were, frankly, a little disappointed with the performance this quarter. We took a 6% year-on-year average commercial loan position. But on a linked basis, just about flat. And that was really pretty much across the board. CRE, which had been an 8% performer on a year-on-year basis was flat. As you pointed out, C&I was down pretty substantively. And construction took a bit of a pause. And I think that's a little bit of a more structural than cyclical situation. I think there is some opportunity there. So yes, it was an off quarter. I'm hoping that if and as we get a little more clarity around the environment with the tariff situation and the like, we can begin to resemble more the year-on-year average loan basis in commercial. But yes, you're not incorrect. It was a little bit of a disappointing quarter commercial production-wise for us. And Jim, do you want to touch on C&I?

James C. Polk

Analyst

Yes. I think what I would say is that we have seen pipelines continue to build from the beginning of the year. Obviously, it wasn't a terrific quarter, but I think it was driven by 2 things, right? The greater uncertainty that we saw in the market, which obviously impacted loan volumes or at least put what we put on the books. And then we just saw some unusually high level of prepayments on a couple of loans, which resulted in the decline. I think as we go forward and we begin to see the pipeline start to materialize, we'll move back into a modest level of growth as we move towards the end of the year.

Jared David Wesley Shaw

Analyst

Okay. All right. And then on the deposit side, if we look at DDAs as a percentage of deposits, it's staying pretty flat. Is this -- is that how we should maybe think about it staying right around the 26% level and as total deposits move, DDAs sort of stick with that? Or is there a potential opportunity for those to move higher or lower...

Peter S. Ho

Analyst

Well, yes, we've got a lot of effort and energy around building DDAs. Obviously, given the rate environment, those are high-margin products for us. I was encouraged that average NIBD for the quarter was up 1% on a linked basis as compared to minus 0.2% on a year-on-year average basis. So we are seeing some acceleration there. Whether we can get numbers well beyond that, I'm not sure. As much as we'd like to build demand deposits, all of our competitors would like to build demand deposits. So it's a pretty competitive crowded space. So we'll see. I mean it's an important product for us, and we're going to do our best to try and make that an outsized component of our overall deposit base.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Andrew Terrell of Stephens.

Robert Andrew Terrell

Analyst

I wanted to check in on expenses first. It sounds like still thinking that kind of 2% to 3% expense growth rate. It seems like that kind of implies a little bit of a step back in the back half of the year, a little bit of relief on expenses in the next couple of quarters. Just wanted to see if you could kind of confirm that and just maybe refine kind of back half expense expectations.

Bradley S. Satenberg

Analyst

Yes, I think that's right. I mean I think, obviously, the first quarter was elevated. The second quarter, we had a severance charge of about $1.4 million. So I do think it will take a step back in the second half of the year. We still feel comfortable with the 2% to 3% increase from the prior year. And so yes, I think you should see expenses come down from where they were during the first 6 months of the year.

Robert Andrew Terrell

Analyst

Great. I appreciate it. And then I also just wanted to check in just kind of on capital priorities. I know you've got a buyback out there. We've talked about some securities restructuring at a certain point in time. But I just wanted to take your temperature on what makes sense or kind of what you're thinking about from a capital standpoint today.

Peter S. Ho

Analyst

Yes. So I think we're probably going to maintain our hold position on buybacks until we get a little better clarity around both the economy and the rate path forward. Around securities repurchases, we're not -- we don't have anything significant planned there. But certainly, to the extent that we pick up certain income opportunities, the opportunity to reconstitute those gains into securities repositioning is something that we think about. So probably the way I'd frame that is nothing dramatic at all. But opportunistically, as we see opportunities in our income stream to help kind of smooth the balance sheet, that's what we would pursue.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from Kelly Motta of KBW.

Kelly Ann Motta

Analyst

If I could, I'd like to circle back on the components of margin, specifically the expected cash flows off of the securities book and loans fixed and adjustable resetting expectations over the back half of the year. Do you have the expected cash flows on that just so we can manage NII assumption from here?

Bradley S. Satenberg

Analyst

I would say the cash flows are going to be in the range of $550 million, like in total. I think it's going to -- these are contractual. It's not an acceleration of prepayments or anything like that. And so I think $550 million is probably what to expect. And as far as what they're coming off that, I think what you saw in the first and the second quarter. If you took those together, I think there have been some minor blips in both periods. But if you look at them together, I think that's probably a reasonable average of what they'll come off at. And then the reinvestments, obviously, should be stable unless there are changes in interest rates. And then obviously, that we'll see a slight shift based on that.

Kelly Ann Motta

Analyst

Got it. And then switching over as a follow-up to the expenses and the run rate coming down in the back half of the year. How much of that may be pushing off certain investments into 2026 and beyond versus are there any -- because expenses are otherwise well controlled, anything you're doing to help mitigate expenses here and cost containment efforts, just to get a sense of the moving parts of the back half of the year coming down?

Peter S. Ho

Analyst

Yes. Kelly, I'll begin on that. Maybe Brad can clean up whatever mess I create. But I think that no, we're not curtailing investment expenditures. That, frankly, is not in the plan, and I don't see environmentally the need to do that. We've got a lot of interesting ideas and thoughts out there that are going to require some capital investment, and we're happy to do that and garner a quality return around those. In terms of just bringing down expenses in general, that is, frankly, a discipline that we're deploying in every quarter. And we did -- you did notice the severance in the quarter. That really was a result of some restructuring that we've done. I would anticipate that we'll probably see some more of that in the third and fourth quarter, but nothing major, but really just kind of reflective of our intent to always be looking to figure out ways to bring down expenses to the organization.

Kelly Ann Motta

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then in terms of overall deposit flows, deposits were down this quarter. Can you remind us any seasonality in there? And being that deposits will likely be the driver of the size of the balance sheet, just kind of overall expectations in terms of the outlook for deposit growth from here?

Peter S. Ho

Analyst

Yes. I think there is some seasonality into the quarter, the second quarter as well as, frankly, the third quarter. When we look at the past 4 years of deposit balances intra-year, the second and third quarter are kind of the shoulder quarters, if you will. As far as what we're expecting for the balance of the year, frankly, I would anticipate that if we come out flat from where we are, but improve to Jared's question a few minutes ago around the componentry, hopefully laying a little bit deeper into NIBD, that's about where we would think would be an appropriate place for us to end up.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn it back to Chang Park for closing remarks.

Chang Park

Analyst

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today and for your continued interest in Bank of Hawaii. As always, please feel free to reach out to me if you have any additional questions. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.