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The Baldwin Insurance Group, Inc. (BWIN)

Q2 2023 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 9, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to BRP Group, Inc. Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Bonnie Bishop, Executive Director of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Bonnie Bishop

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Welcome to the BRP Group second quarter 2023 earnings call. Today's call is being recorded. Second quarter financial results, supplemental information, and Form 10-Q were issued earlier this afternoon and are available on the company's website at ir.baldwinriskpartners.com. Please note that remarks made today may include forward-looking statements subject to various assumptions, risks, and uncertainties. The company's actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such statements. For a more detailed discussion, please refer to the note regarding forward-looking statements in the company's earnings release and to our most recent Form 10-Q, both of which are available on the BRP website. During the call today, the company may also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. For a more detailed discussion of these non-GAAP financial measures and historical reconciliation to the most closely comparable GAAP measures, please refer to the company's earnings release and supplemental information, both of which have been posted on the company's website at ir.baldwinriskpartners.com. I will now turn the call over to Trevor Baldwin, Chief Executive Officer of BRP Group.

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining our second quarter earnings call. I'm joined this afternoon by Brad Hale, our Chief Financial Officer; Kris Wiebeck, our Chief Strategy Officer; and Bonnie Bishop, Executive Director of Investor Relations. BRP had an excellent second quarter with broad-based strength on both the top and bottom lines across our segments. The power of our colleague and client franchise continues to show through in our results with organic revenue growth of 22% on the back of a difficult prior year comp of 24%, driving adjusted EBITDA growth of 45% to $61.6 million and representing a year-over-year margin increase of approximately 240 basis points to 21%. Total revenue grew 28% and adjusted earnings per share of $0.27 was up 17% in the face of an approximate $13 million or 101% year-over-year increase in our cash interest expense in the quarter. Insurance Advisory Solutions achieved strong organic growth of 15%, continuing to benefit from outsized new business wins and rate and exposure tailwinds in certain areas. New business revenue wins increased 28%, and net new business revenue wins increased 50% for the quarter compared to the prior year. In June and July, we officially launched and announced three new centers of excellence in private equity, venture capital, and government contracting. These centers of excellence are built around insurance experts with deep experience in their field. Their talent and expertise can be tapped across the entire BRP platform to provide specialized and differentiated solutions to our clients. We expect specialization to be a key and growing component to our sustained organic growth. Underwriting capacity and technology solutions grew 36% organically with the MGA of the Future platform, again performing exceptionally well, up 45% with broad-based strength across the business and building underlying momentum that should accrue to continued…

Bradford Hale

Analyst

Thanks Trevor and good afternoon everyone. For the second quarter, we generated revenue growth of 28% to $297 million. As Trevor mentioned, we generated organic growth in the quarter of 22%, with all three reporting segments generating organic growth of 15% or higher in the quarter. In Q2, we paid down our revolver by $15 million as we continue to generate cash flow from operations and manage working capital to combat rising interest rates. We made more progress in de-levering the business and still expect that organic growth and free cash flow generation will reduce our net leverage to approximately four and a half times by year-end 2023, within our stated long-term target range. We recorded a GAAP net loss for the second quarter of $43.7 million or $0.40 per fully diluted share. Adjusted net income for the second quarter of 2023, which excludes share-based compensation, amortization and other onetime expenses, was $32 million or $0.27 per fully diluted share. A table reconciling GAAP net loss to adjusted net income can be found in our earnings release and our 10-Q filed with the SEC. Adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter rose 45% to $61.6 million, compared to $42.5 million in the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 21% for the quarter compared to 18% in the prior year period. This margin expansion can be attributed to our organic growth offset by absorbing the rollover impact of 2022 new hires. We made significant investments in 2022 that we are now one quarter away from largely absorbing. Therefore, our continued organic growth will be more accretive to margin in the back half of 2023 and into 2024. For the full year 2023, we now expect organic growth in the high teens based on the performance we are seeing across our business year-to-date, which includes an expectation for mid-teens organic growth in Q3. Additionally, we now expect full year revenue of $1.18 billion to $1.2 billion, higher than the range of $1.16 billion to $1.19 billion we stated on the first quarter call. Finally, we are reaffirming our adjusted EBITDA expectation to between $255 million to $265 million. And for the third quarter of 2023, we expect adjusted EBITDA to be between $62 million to $66 million and adjusted EPS of $0.27 to $0.29 per share. We will now take questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Elyse Greenspan with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

Hi, thanks. My first question, you guys didn't raise the EBITDA margin -- the EBITDA target for the year, but you do expect revenue to be higher, and I know from the prepared comments, a couple of times, you mentioned tailwinds to margins in the back half of the year. So I guess, why wouldn't that EBITDA target be higher if revenue is higher? And if there's tailwinds to your margins right from employees that you're hiring, right, being closer to full potential?

Bradford Hale

Analyst

Hey Elyse, it's Brad. Look, we're really pleased with the margin expansion we saw in Q2 of 240 basis points. If you look through the guidance we gave for Q3, at a minimum, we're expecting 400 basis points of margin expansion in Q3. So, we really are living that story that we portrayed in Q1, where we're lapping the significant investments we made in 2022 and are really starting to see margin expansion in the business as we find operating leverage across the -- really the service and admin burden in comp. We did raise the revenue guidance based on performance year-to-date. We continue to see strong organic trends in the business that make us confident we can hit that guidance. And in terms of the full year EBITDA, I think we've got a certain amount of conservatism in that number, which we always portray. But if we can hit those results, it's going to show meaningful organic growth for the year, and it's going to show meaningful margin expansion going into 2024, where we anticipate we can get even further margin expansion.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

So, maybe building on that, right, you guys did say, right, that you expect the operating leverage from the higher is to benefit your margin, right, over the next two quarters and into the first half of next year. So, do you have a view of your margin profile for the next 12 months, right, for the next four quarters? And once we get through Q2 of 2024, where do you think the margin of BRP could be once we reflect all the upcoming tailwinds?

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

Yes. Hey Elyse, this is Trevor. We're not going to get into projecting margin for 2024 yet. We'll start providing guidance at the normal time period there. What I would tell you is what I've said in the past is the mature margin profile of this business is in excess of 30%. And we believe, based on the amount of kind of technology and automation, particularly in our MGA, the mature margin profile is meaningfully higher than our peers. We've been pulling pretty hard on the margin lever over the past six months or so, and you're going to begin seeing that really flow through in the back half of the year and the first half of 2024. But that by no means that, that margin accretion story will be done then. We're also continuing to focus on thoughtfully investing in talent in the business in a more kind of normal course way to ensure that we sustain the outlier organic growth results that you've grown accustomed to seeing from our business.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

And then one last one, right? So, you guys said you'll be at that leverage target at the end of this year. should we think about -- then you obviously have some more capital flexibility. Should we think about a return to M&A activity in 2024? And just overall, like an update on M&A would be great? Thank you.

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

Yes. So, we continue to kind of remain active and opportunistic around our pipeline of opportunities and keep that live. Our priority remains de-levering the business down below our long-term range of four and a half turns. And we've got earn-out liabilities that will be funded through free cash flow over the course of the next 18 months. At that point, the business is going to be in a very different position from a financial flexibility perspective will likely de-lever materially, with absent any further M&A materially below kind of our target range of, call it, three to four and a half turns of leverage. And so I would expect us to begin thinking about being more intentional around M&A towards the end of 2024 and certainly into 2025. But that is going to be very situational, depending on the environment we find ourselves in, the quality of opportunities and deal flow that we're seeing. and the value that those opportunities present for the business based on where deals are trading.

Bradford Hale

Analyst

And just to add to that, Elyse, we are on the leverage trajectory that we projected. We are at 5.19 times, down from approximately five and a half in Q1. And based on the guidance I provided for Q3, I believe we'll be in the 4.7 times range as of the end of Q3 with a path to being a four and a half by Q4, like we've communicated previously. So we're meeting those targets as the year progresses. As Trevor mentioned, we've got earn-out liabilities we've got to address over the next 18 months. But certainly, in terms of getting to the leverage profile that we've talked about to the market, we're on track to get there.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Meyer Shields with KBW. Please proceed.

Meyer Shields

Analyst

Thanks. I had a couple of questions about some expenses that are adjusted out in calculating EBITDA. I guess, because we saw an uptick in severance expense and transaction-related partnership. And I guess I was a little surprised at least on the latter one because you haven't been doing M&A recently. I was hoping you could walk us through what's going on there?

Bradford Hale

Analyst

Yes, this is Brad. We did have a severance line item this quarter. We took action primarily in our back office administrative function where we were post a lot of the integration work we've been working on in the IES business. And we looked at those colleague basis, primarily in accounting and finance and HR and had some excess resources that post integration really weren't necessary as we had migrated to a single agency management system. To Trevor's point previously, we've redeployed some of that capital into customer-facing roles as we continue to be aggressive about organic growth and funding that for the future, but we did take an opportunity to have a reduction force there amongst some of our back-office colleagues. In terms of the transaction-related, we have continued to experience integration-related costs, primarily in the MGA side of the business and particularly with Westwood. As you know, Westwood was a carve-out of a public company. We anticipated that, that integration would be expensive. It has been even more expensive than we anticipated, albeit 100% worth it given the fantastic performance that we continue to see in the Westwood business. I'd say the positive side, Meyer, is that we're by the midpoint of next year, we believe we'll be largely through those integration expenses associated with Westwood and the TSA but it has been more expensive than we anticipated throughout the integration period.

Meyer Shields

Analyst

Okay, that’s very helpful. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Pablo Singzon with JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Pablo Singzon

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon. Can you please remind us of the earn-outs you expect to pay out in cash this year?

Bradford Hale

Analyst

Did you say this year, Pablo, I'm sorry, you broke up?

Pablo Singzon

Analyst

Yes, this year.

Bradford Hale

Analyst

Yes. In year, it's about $35 million to $40 million in anticipated earn-out payments. And there's about another $75 million to $80 million that we anticipate paying in Q1 of 2024.

Pablo Singzon

Analyst

Okay. And I think year-to-date, my numbers might be off here, but I'm looking at about $40 million of payouts, right? So, you're basically implying a pick up in the second half of the year in terms of the payout?

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

Yes, that's correct.

Pablo Singzon

Analyst

Okay. Perfect. And then a question along the same lines of, I guess, the severance and any expense. So, I think Brad -- there's this line other and I think most of it is a mitigation expense. Do you expect most -- and I think year-to-date, it's running at about call $40 million? Do you expect that to be mostly done by the end of this year or do you think that shows over into 2024?

Bradford Hale

Analyst

Yes, I expect that to be mostly done by the end of this year. Again, that's some outside temporary health and folks that are largely focused on integration as well. But as we come on the back of a lot of the MGA-related integration and Westwood integration we're doing, I do expect that line to decrease substantially going into 2024.

Pablo Singzon

Analyst

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] There are no more questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Trevor Baldwin for closing remarks.

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

I want to thank you all for joining us on the call this evening. In closing, I want to thank our 4,000 colleagues for their and dedication to delivering for our stakeholders. I also want to thank our clients for their continued trust and confidence. So, thank you all very much and we look forward to speaking with you next quarter. Good evening.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This will conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.