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The Baldwin Insurance Group, Inc. (BWIN)

Q4 2023 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 28, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the BRP Group Inc. Fourth Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It's now my pleasure to introduce your host, Bonnie Bishop. Thank you. You may begin.

Bonnie Bishop

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Welcome to the BRP Group's fourth quarter 2023 earnings call. Today's call is being recorded. Fourth quarter and full-year financial results, supplemental information, and Form 10-K were issued earlier this afternoon and are available on the company's website at ir.baldwinriskpartners.com. Please note that remarks made today may include forward-looking statements subject to various assumptions, risks, and uncertainties. The company's actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such statements. For a more detailed discussion, please refer to the note regarding forward-looking statements in the company's earnings release and to our most recent Form 10-K, both of which are available on the BRP website. During the call today, the company may also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. For a more detailed discussion of these non-GAAP financial measures and historical reconciliation to the most closely comparable GAAP measures, please refer to the company's earnings release and supplemental information, both of which have been posted on the company's website at ir.baldwinriskpartners.com. I will now turn the call over to Trevor Baldwin, Chief Executive Officer of BRP Group.

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us to discuss our fourth quarter results reported earlier today. I'm joined this afternoon by Brad Hale, our Chief Financial Officer; and Bonnie Bishop, Executive Director of Investor Relations. For the fourth quarter, the contributions from the significant investments we made in 2021, and 2022 continued to manifest themselves in a meaningful way. As we generated organic growth of 15%, our 15th straight quarter of double-digit organic growth as a public company. For the year, we achieved industry-pacing organic growth of 19%, including double-digit organic growth across all three of our segments. Grew adjusted EBITDA by $54 million, a 27% year-over-year increase, and expanded our margin by approximately 50 basis points. As a result of the investments we've made over the past few years, our business remains well-positioned to continue delivering double-digit organic growth, ongoing margin expansion, rapid growth of free cash flow from operations and continued strengthening of our balance sheet. In IAS, we generated organic growth of 9% in the fourth quarter. In line with expectations we previewed on our third quarter earnings call. As forecasted, while growth was robust in most areas of our IAS platform, we saw select weakness in profit sharing revenue and project-based work in sectors such as construction, where increased client sensitivity to continued higher interest rates and insurance rate increases had an impact in Q4. Despite the headwinds in Q3 and Q4, IAS organic growth for the full year was 12% in line with our long-term target of 10% to 15%. There will always be puts and takes to the underlying momentum of our in-client industry sectors, but early signs are pointing to an ebbing of these negative impacts that persisted during the second half of 2023. Job starts in our construction practice or seeing…

Bradford Hale

Analyst

Thanks, Trevor, and good afternoon everyone. For the fourth quarter, we generated organic revenue growth of 15% and total revenue of $285 million. For the full-year, organic revenue growth was 19% and total revenue was $1.2 billion. We generated organic growth in the quarter of 9% at IAS, 22% at UCTS and 21% at MIS. We recorded a GAAP net loss for the fourth quarter of $62.5 million or GAAP diluted loss per share of $0.56. GAAP net loss for the full year was $164 million or $1.50 per fully diluted share Adjusted net income for the fourth quarter, which excludes share-based compensation, amortization, and other one-time expenses was $16.2 million or $0.14 per fully diluted share. For the full year adjusted net income was $131.1 million, or $1.12 per fully diluted share. A table reconciling GAAP net loss to adjusted net income can be found in our earnings release and our 10-K filed with the SEC. Adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter rose, 16% to $45.6 million, compared to $39.2 million in the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 16% for the quarter flat versus the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA for the full year grew 27% over the prior year to $250 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 21% for the full year, and expansion of 50 basis points. Net cash provided by operating activities in our statement of cash flows was $44.6 million for the full year 2023, compared to negative $2.5 million in 2022. Free cash flow from operations was $60.6 million for the full year, an increase of 6% from the prior year, even in the face of a 68% or $42.7 million increase in cash paid for interest. For the fourth quarter, free cash flow from operations was negative $15.4 million compared to negative…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. The first question we have is from Greg Peters of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good afternoon, this is [indiscernible] to Greg. I know you guys called out some headwinds in the IAS segment for the last couple of quarters, and just curious if your 2024 guidance assumes those headwinds persist or if you're expecting some improvements there.

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

So, a few things. One specific to the ‘24 guidance, it incorporates our expectation for a normalization of the impact of rate and exposure, which is where we see those headwinds show up relative to some of the project revenues mentioned earlier in my prepared remarks. I think it to contextualize the underlying performance of the IAS segment, it's important to run through a handful of stats. When we look at the impact of rate and exposure on our organic growth in the IAS segment for the first half of 2023, it was a 6.6% tailwind. And when we look at the impact of rate and exposure on the IAS segment in the second half of 2023, it was a negative 0.5% headwind. In the fourth quarter specifically, it was a negative 2% headwind. And so, if you look at the underlying organic growth and you normalize for the amount of transition we saw in impact from rate and exposure, the organic growth from the IAS segment, apples to apples would've been mid-teens for the second half of the year and the fourth quarter. When you look at the underlying momentum that we're seeing in that segment, I would tell you that it's growing. We track a metric called sales velocity, which is how we measure new business revenue being generated or won from new clients, as a measure of prior year commission and fee revenue. And for the full year of 2023 IS sales velocity was 17%, and more specifically for the fourth quarter IAS sales velocity was 21%. A notable uptick as we saw the growth and momentum in new client wins as a result of the investments we've made in talent and capabilities. And as that compares to industry average, there's a consulting firm in the industry, Reagan Consulting, they perform a quarterly study called the growth and profitability study. For the full year 2023, the industry median sales velocity was 11.6% and to be in the 75th percentile, it was 15.7%. And so, a long-winded way of saying we feel like momentum in the IAS business continues to be very strong. We had some idiosyncratic drivers of rate and exposure compression in the back half of 2023 tied to some specific dynamics with particular clients in client industry sectors. We believe that's largely behind us. And we've seen that as through January with a return or more normalization of rate and exposure in that part of the business.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thanks. I appreciate it. And then I was hoping maybe, I know it has touched on the prepared remarks, but hoping you can discuss a little bit more in detail the drivers of the margin expansion embedded in your guidance. And I think last quarter, Trevor, you mentioned Juniper Re is expected to be negative adjusted EBITDA in 2024. And hoping maybe you could quantify that and confirm if it's still expected to be EPS accretive in 2025?

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

Yes, so let me just take those kinds of one by one. From a margin accretion standpoint, it's driven by broad-based discipline, and operating effectiveness around payroll, operating expenses, and travel and entertainment expense. But notably it's driven by us kind of growing into a normalizing the investments that were very significant that we made into talent in our business in 2021 and 2022. If you look at what's the magnitude of that difference, when we started 2023, we had added a thousand net colleagues to the business in 2022 and had over $40 million of payroll, they did not yet earn through our P&L that was going to be running through the 2023 P&L that we fully absorbed. When we look at the net hiring into the business in 2023, we net added just a here over 40 colleagues into the business, while still adding over $187 million of revenue on an organic basis. And that's not because we stopped investing in the client-facing and talent side of the business, it's because we were able to rationalize our footprint and talent investments as we wrapped up the integration work across the vast majority of the partnerships we've completed over the past few years. Specific to Juniper, we're very pleased with the progress we're making there. Jeff has recruited in a fantastic team and we fully built out capabilities across reinsurance, broking, actuarial services, cap modeling and operations. And we expect that business to begin contributing to revenues in the first quarter. We do expect that business to have a net loss for the fiscal year 2024. And our base plan is that that business will be EBITDA and EPS positive in 2025. However, we continue to evaluate talent investments and opportunities. But in summary, I'd say we have a lot of trust and confidence in Jeff and the team that he's been able to assemble. We're super excited for the contributions they're going to make, both this year and beyond. Thanks, Ed. Next question from the next analyst, please.

Operator

Operator

The next question we have is from Josh Shanker of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Josh Shanker

Analyst

Good afternoon everybody. Higher end of 10% to 15% long-term organic revenue guidance is very strong, but it's also lower than it's been the past. Can you talk about some of the drivers of your outsized organic growth and in retrospect, and what's changing about the outlook to the broader economy that makes you a little more conservative looking forward?

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

Hi, Josh this is Trevor. As we've talked about in the past, we view there really to be four building blocks to organic growth. And it starts with how much of the prior year revenue did you retain? What's the impact from rate and exposure on either expansion or compression of that prior year revenue that that renews. And then most importantly, how much new revenue, do you win from new clients that you're bringing into the organization? And what's been consistent from us is that the preponderance of our organic growth is driven by our new business generation. Our retention tends to be in line to slightly better than industry average. The impact we have from rate and exposure actually tends to be a bit lower than the industry average. And our new business generation or sales velocity tends to be significantly higher. As we think about those metrics for 2024, we're not expecting any kind of material degradation. If anything, I'd say slight improvements in overall revenue retention and client retention. I would say we do anticipate an ebbing of kind of the impacts we've seen from rate overall in our businesses. And I'd say just in general, coming off another year where we've had multiple segments with organic growth and excess of 20%, and we're not going to plan for kind of hugely outlier performances like that. We expect really strong performance out of all three of our segments. We expect double-digit organic growth out of all three of our segments. But I would say that -- there's some characteristic conservatism that we're not going to forecast for 20% plus organic growth.

Josh Shanker

Analyst

That's understandable. And one other question I was curious what kind of success have you had onboarding other lines of business besides renters onto the MGA, the future platform,

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

Josh, tremendous success. The MGA of the future platform continues to be just a significant growth driver for us overall with organic growth for 2023 in excess of 30%. And while our renter’s platform, which is a mature and scaled business, continues to perform exceptionally well with growth in excess of 20%. Candidly, we're seeing growing momentum there as we head into 2024 with a number of new initiatives, relative to expansions in the Canada, in a number of software providers we expect to bring online this year. I'd say a significant part of that growth has been driven by the new products that we've been able to develop and roll out. Homeowners and flood in particular have been a huge success generating over $360 million of premium and over $65 million of revenue for the MGA in 2023 alone. We now have over 12 unique products that we've built and launched off the MGA platform and an expectation that we'll launch, another four to five this year. As we've talked about in the past, when we look at the lens through which we evaluate new product opportunities, it's where do we have unique and differentiated distribution? Is there an opportunity to build a product that brings kind of unique, and client fit and utility? And importantly, can we see a path to scaling that product line up in excess of a $100 million over a reasonable timeframe? And so, we could not be more excited about the momentum that we have and the success that we're seeing across the MGA.

Operator

Operator

The next question we had from Meyer Shields of KBW. Please go ahead.

Meyer Shields

Analyst

Quick question to begin with. Is there any distinct seasonality in the revenues or earnings of the business being sold to [Indiscernible]?

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

Not really. Meyer. It's relatively -- they have some seasonality month to month, but if you look quarter-to-quarter, it's relatively flat.

Meyer Shields

Analyst

I know this, obviously they're going to take care of the entire debt program, but are there specific plans for the proceeds?

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

It provides, continued and better financial flexibility, mayor, and we'll continue to thoughtfully manage our balance sheet to optimize returns.

Meyer Shields

Analyst

One last one, if I can follow up on Josh's question. It seems that there's increasing comfort in with Florida's reforms with regard to people being more interested in maybe depopulating citizens or whatever. And something you take us through what the implications of that are for Westwood, for the MGA of the future.

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

Yes, those implications are all positive, Meyer, and then Westwood continues to perform exceptionally well with organic growth in excess of 20%. We added three new top 35 builders over the past few months as new distribution partners into the Westwood business. And as a big volume of the new homes being built across the U.S. are built in Florida. And so, the extent that more capacity opens up, that creates more optionality and puts us in a position to provide more, and better choice to our ultimate clients. And so, the opening up of the market will be a very good thing for us and should translate into our ability to kind of bring in further capacity into the MGA to continue to kind of meet the needs of our clients.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. The next question we have is from Pablo Singzon of JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Pablo Singzon

Analyst

Just a question in margins, if you go by the guidance that you're giving, the implied EBITDA margin expansion is the largest on an annual basis would be the largest EBITDA expansion that you would've done on an annual basis, right? Call it 300 points. It seems like you can explain 80 bits of that from the $10 million cost savings with the remainder. Just be natural operating leverage. And is there reason to think that that kind of cadence continues beyond ‘24?

Bradford Hale

Analyst

I'd say, the answer to the question that you surmised is accurate and that margin increase is coming from operating leverage. We're coming out of a couple of years in ‘21 and ’22, where we invested significantly into the business. And as you know, roughly 80% of the expense base in this industry is payroll. And we've done most of the hard work around that as a result of how we manage headcount in 2023 and for 2024. We're not going to provide an outlook on what kind of margin accretion to expect in ‘25 or beyond. But what I will reiterate as we consistent with what we've said in the past is the margin profile of this business is not any different than that of our peers that operate in the high twenties, low thirties EBITDA margin. If anything, as a result of the utilization of technology and proprietary systems that we have, the hard work that we've done over the past few years to fully integrate our platform, I would suggest that over time our margin profile will be superior to that of our peers. And as a result, we do expect margin accretion. For the foreseeable future year in, year out, some years that will be more than others. We'll continue to invest in the business and invest in talent in a thoughtful and meaningful way that enables us to continue to remain on the vanguard for our clients and continues to allow us to cultivate our status and reputation as a true destination for the most talented professionals in our industry. We're incredibly excited about how this business is positioned, heading into 2024 and while ‘23 was a fantastic year, it was also a year that had some challenges and required some tough decisions. And we've made those decisions and executed on those actions and positioned our business to really drive very strong and profitable growth in 2024 and beyond.

Operator

Operator

The next question we have is from Elyse Greenspan of Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

My first question, does your guide -- your organic guidance for ‘24, are you assuming double-digit organic growth in all of your segments? And then within IAS I know you discussed earlier, about some of what caused the slowdown in the second half of the year. Can you give us a sense of how that business is trending? In the first quarter, two months into the first quarter from an organic basis?

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

Yes. Hey, Elyse. One, we are expecting double digital organic growth across all three of our segments in 2024. Relative to kind of early trends in the first quarter for the IAS business, through January we have seen a, what I would call normalization of the impact of rate and exposure and continued strength in new business momentum, as I shared on the momentum we saw in sales velocity in the fourth quarter.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

And then how, can you just provide, I guess, some thoughts, I guess for ‘24 and ‘25 as you guys think about a return to M&A obviously interest rates have come down, just give us an update on the pipeline and how you're thinking about return to M&A activity.

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

Yes, so we continue to have active dialogues and traffic in the opportunities that exist across the industry. We believe that M&A will continue to be an important value-creation lever for us. As evidenced, if you've seen our financial supplement that's posted to the IR portion of our website, you'll see that we added some new disclosure this quarter, that details the success of our first large cohort of partnerships, the transactions we completed in 2020. And you'll see the significant multiple buydown that occurred as a result of both top and bottom line growth across that cohort. And so, M&A, we do believe will be an ongoing and important part of our story. Consistent with our view last quarter, we don't expect any material m and a in 2024 as we focus primarily on de-levering into our stated target leverage range of 3 times to 4 times. And after we pay the last of the large earnouts in the first quarter of 2025, I think we would expect that M&A becomes, a more prevalent part of our story again, but importantly, we'll be more episodic in nature than it was in the first few years of our life as a public company. We're incredibly fortunate as a business to have a platform that knows how to grow organically, double digits, year-end, year out throughout market and economic cycles. And that enables us to be very thoughtful about when and how to deploy capital for M&A. We don't need M&A to create value or to grow our business. As I articulated early, we grew organically our business by $190 million of revenue this past year. And so, when there's opportunities to align with high-quality businesses that have terrific talent and bring this unique incline industry sector capabilities, expertise, and risk competency, centers of excellence, then those are opportunities we will pursue and execute on. But what you will not see us do is M&A just for the sake of driving growth or trying to create merger arbitrage. It's purely about creating value-enhancing capabilities and driving long-term sustainability into our operating model.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. They are no further questions. At this time, I would like to turn the floor back over to Trevor Baldwin for closing comments.

Trevor Baldwin

Analyst

I want to thank you all for joining us on the call this evening. In closing, I want to thank our colleagues for their hard work and dedication to our clients and each other. I also want to thank our clients for their continued trust and confidence. Thank you all very much, and we look forward to speaking with you again next quarter.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.