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Canaan Inc. (CAN)

Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Tue, Mar 7, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to Canaan Inc. Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this event is being recorded. Now I'd like to hand the conference over to your speaker host today, Mr. Clark Soucy, Investor Relations Director of the company. Please go ahead, Clark.

Clark Soucy

Analyst

Thank you. Hello, everyone, and welcome to our earnings conference call. The company's financial and operating results were released by our newswire services earlier today and are currently available online. Joining us today are our Chairman and CEO, Mr. Nangeng Zhang; and our CFO, Mr. Jin Cheng James. In addition, Mr. Xiaoming Lu, our SVP; Mr. Leo Wang, IR Senior Director; and Ms. Xi Zhang, IR Manager, will also be available during the question-and-answer session. Mr. Zhang will start the call by providing an overview of the company and performance highlights for the quarter. Mr. Cheng will then provide details on the company's operating and financial results for the period before we open up the call for your questions. Before we continue, I would like to refer you to our safe harbor statement in our earnings press release. Today's call will include forward-looking statements. These statements include, but are not limited to, our outlook for the company and statements that estimate or project future results of operations or the performance of the company. These statements speak only as of the date hereof and the company assumes no obligation to revise any forward-looking statements that may be made in today's press release, call or webcast, except as required by law. These statements do not guarantee future performance and are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Please refer to the press release and the risk factors and documents we filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our most recent annual report on Form 20-F for information on risks, uncertainties and assumptions that may cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in such statements. In addition, during today's call and webcast, we'll discuss both GAAP financial measures and certain non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are useful as supplemental measures of the company's performance. These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for or in isolation from GAAP results. You can find additional disclosures regarding these non-GAAP measures, including reconciliations with comparable GAAP results in our earnings press release, which is posted on the company's website. With that, I will now turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Mr. Nangeng Zhang. Please go ahead.

Nangeng Zhang

Analyst

Hello, everyone. This is Nangeng, CEO and Founder of Canaan. Our CFO James and I are delighted to share our quarterly results from the company's Singapore headquarters. The market environment in fourth quarter of 2022 become even tougher, and appropriately reached the target moment. The fast rise interest rates by 75 bps in November and the 60 bps in December to fight inflection. As such the recent - the macro environment has been quite difficult for the bitcoin mining industry. Also in November 2022, the crypto exchange FTX and the crypto lender BlockFi both filed for bankruptcy. These unfortunate events further hurt creditors and the investors' confidence in the whole cryptocurrency industry. Due to this series of adverse events, the bitcoin price decreased towards 52 week low of $16,500 at the end of the year. At the same time energy prices stayed high because of the regional conflicts. While bitcoin's total net network hash rate has increased by more than 20% from the last quarter as new mining firms began operations and new machines were online around the world. This has made mining more difficult with decreased mining work, and has even resulted in select mining farms to stop operating. In North America, where mining has been relatively concentrated since 2021 many miners and the hosts have high debt ratios and the financing costs. This burden [ph] have further impacted their cash flows. And some miners and hosts have gone bankrupt or had to reorganize their business. These problems have badly adversely affected miners operations, income and the demand from purchasing [ph] mining machines. We have mixed feelings about this industry downturn. During the fourth quarter of 2022 together with our management team, I visited the investors, clients and partners in North America, the Middle East and the Southeast Asia.…

James Cheng

Analyst

Thank you Mr. Nangeng, and good day everyone. This is James. I'm with our CEO in our Singapore office. Broadly speaking in the fourth quarter, as our CEO has already stated, the market situation was very tough for both Canaan and our customers, as well as the whole industry. At the same time we also faced our own challenges in executing all our products upgrade from the A12 series to the A13 series. As a result, we must make upfront payments for new waivers, while sales are impacted due to the low bitcoin price. However, we did make some good progress in developing the scale of our mining operations in quarter four, and it contributed more revenue than ever. Despite all the difficulties for total revenues, we achieved the RMB 392 million reaching our previous guidance by more than RMB 80 million. Regarding machine sales, in this challenging time, we endured the market conditions and continued to decisively execute on our strategy. Considering a very limited demand, we further lowered the selling price for our legacy A12 series models to spur our sales. As a result, we delivered 1.9 million terahash per second in the quarter, contributing to approximately RMB 318 million in mining machine sales, which is better than we expected. I would like to share a few points about our mining business. During the market downturn, we have been actively exploring and developing our mining business, because this mining resource assets are undervalued in the current bear market, we believe it is an ideal time for us to invest and deploy valuable assets for the long run. At the same time, it's also a method to allocate our machines in inventory to generate bitcoin. We further improved the power supply, our revenue from the mining business reached RMB…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Michael Donovan from H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead, Michael.

Michael Donovan

Analyst

[Foreign Language] Kevin is on the road right now traveling, so I'm filling in for him. And first question, what is machine demand like with the depressed pricing? And how is Canaan balancing between developing self-mining versus selling machines?

Nangeng Zhang

Analyst

Well, thank you. For this question, on the positive side, this comprised high has started to increase slightly in the beginning of this year. So the overall demand of computing power has shown some recovery. We have received more purchase inquiries and small orders. For instance in the past months, we received over 200 new orders with a total amount of about USD 35 million because the situation has just started to improve, the total amount isn't that large. So far, demand from Asia has recovered most quickly. We haven't seen much recovery from North America yet. On the negative side, inventory in the market has still not been completely rejected because of this, the selling price of the machines didn't increase in line with the rise in the different price and the number of mining machine orders delivered. So our selling price is still limited by the state of the industry. And for quite a long time, we have been preparing for low bitcoin price and lower demand. Our current strategy is to grow our mining skills by enhancing partnerships with mining farms and reasonable power prices. This will allow us to utilize our mining machines inventories for mining reworks. I think by investing when bitcoin price is low, we will see good returns when the price recovers. We expected the contracts will not be continuously restricted in the next 1 or 2 years and we will probably experience increase. So we are willing to invest in RMB and lock in wafer production capacity. This will ensure we have enough machines with high performance - with higher performance for both sales and mining. Thank you.

Michael Donovan

Analyst

Thank you, Nangeng . And for my second question, it's specifically about bitcoin price. So you've been quite good at predicting the price of bitcoin. From your perspective, how do you see bitcoin price correlation with risk on assets? And do you see there being a decoupling from risk on asset prices?

Nangeng Zhang

Analyst

I think, yes, I think now the bitcoin price is mostly linked with high risk assets. Yes, this is my opinion. And so I think when the risk as that goes up, the bitcoin price will recover. This is my personal view.

Michael Donovan

Analyst

Okay. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jiaer Zhu from China Renaissance. Please ask your question, Jiaer.

Jiaer Zhu

Analyst

Hi, Nangeng. My first question is about the pricing strategy and inventory digesting [ph] data. And how much computing power do you plan to allocate for self-mining business?

James Cheng

Analyst

Thank you. Maybe I'll take this one. I think it's about pricing strategy. We think that the bitcoin price has only slightly recovered and the whole mining demand is gradually recovering. So it looks like there are still a lot of inventories of the machines in the market. The current conditions are not very favorable for a rapid increase in sales prices. In the extreme case that the bitcoin price falls again, we may have to lower the sales price again. So from our perspective, I think we will closely monitor the market demand and implement flexible price strategies to quickly sell inventory and collect the cash back, and we will also take the advantage of market opportunities when it arise - they arise. In terms of the inventory as of the end of February, we have sold most of the limited amount of A13 new models that were in stock, and we are currently producing a new batch. We also shipped many old generation models in the fourth quarter of 2022 and recently in quarter one, 2023. Currently, our overall inventory level is sufficient. In an environmental slow market recovery, I think we will actively explore mining projects and use more inventory for our mining business to generate bitcoin rewards, and we expect our installed computing power to be in the range of 5 to 5.5 exahash per second by the end of the first quarter of 2023. So we are also actively exploring market demand for mining machine sales and negotiating with large customers to see sales opportunities as the bitcoin price recovers. So overall speaking, we expect the bitcoin price will not continuously be restricted in the coming one to two years. So we've probably experienced an increase in the ongoing quarters. So leading to increased demand for computing power and mining equipment. Therefore, we have already locked in wafer production capacity in preparation for the upcoming possible for bull market. Thank you.

Jiaer Zhu

Analyst

Thanks, James. And my second question is that do you have any stock incentive plan and dividend distribution plan?

James Cheng

Analyst

Thank you for the question. Before the company went public, we established a program to incentivize our employees with our stock. This program has been operating smoothly since going public and is one of our key strategies to attract talented employees and research teams, especially research teams. We will keep discussing and planning together with our Board of Directors regarding the employee incentive plan. For dividend, currently, we do not have a plan to distribute dividends to shareholders. Instead, we aim to invest more in research and development, as well as production deployment in order to create a long-term shareholder value. As the company continues to grow and accumulate assets, we will keep focusing on research and development operations in order to expand our business. We will discuss the possibility of distributing dividends when the timing is more appropriate. Thank you.

Jiaer Zhu

Analyst

Okay, got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Legg from The Benchmark Company. Please ask your question, Mike.

Mike Legg

Analyst

Thank you, good morning. You mentioned that you have 200 new orders, roughly USD 35 million on the books now. Can you talk with bitcoin moving up to 22,000 currently, what you're seeing for the demand, how it's changed from the fourth quarter to current and the related margin pressure on that? And then mention whether the new entrants inquiring about the machines or just the traditional players increasing upgrading their fleets? Thanks.

James Cheng

Analyst

I will take this one. I think regarding the sales part, we have collected a number of small amounts [ph] recently. But overall, demand has just started to recover. And the total volume is not that significant yet. Some traditional miners are unable to place orders due to their financial constraints. And the high industry inventory levels have also limited our sales volume and prices. I think recently, we are prioritizing some of our efforts on dispensing our inventory of old models and parts to quickly collect cash back. If the fluctuations in bitcoin price lead to slower sales of automotive inventory, we may need to further adjust prices to make concessions. If under such conditions, our gross profit will probably be underlined. Regarding our mining business, we expect our mining revenue in the first quarter to further grow, assuming we increased the number of mining machines installed and online quarter-over-quarter, while the bitcoin price rebound during the first quarter. However, as energy prices remain high, we expect the gross profit of our mining business to improve only slightly in the first quarter. Additionally, as we deploy more computing power, mining machine depreciation will also increase in line with the deployment program. So this will also have an impact on the gross profit. Thank you.

Mike Legg

Analyst

Thanks. And then just one more question. Can you talk a little bit how the operating environment in China is right now and then also discuss the build-out in Singapore and U.S., please? Thanks.

Nangeng Zhang

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. At end of 2022, China adjusted its COVID control process. Currently, it seems that control measures in transportation and logistics have largely returned to the level before the pandemic. Our employees are now able to work more efficiently in areas such as operations, finance and R&D to a form of online and in-person collaboration. At the same time, we can grow global business. So we can - in-person meeting with our overseas customers. The size of our teams in our headquarters in Singapore, including R&D operations and finance has been steadily increasing and is playing an increasingly important role in our overall operations. We have also formed the teams in North America for mining operations, sales, warehousing, logistics and after-sale services [ph] providing more support for local market development and after-sale services. Additionally, we have set up 13 other sales service centers worldwide enabling us to provide fast and convenient operational and maintenance service for our overseas customers. Thank you.

Mike Legg

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Shuang Sun from Guosheng Securities. Please ask your question, Shuang.

Shuang Sun

Analyst

My first question is that will you have additional inventory write-down in the next quarter?

James Cheng

Analyst

Thank you for this question. In response to the continuous decrease in bitcoin price in the fourth quarter, we lowered the selling price of some old models, which led to the expected cash inflow from selling these models below cost. As a result, we have recorded a provision for inventory write-down of over RMB 200 million which is recognized as a cost for this quarter. In addition, the depreciation cost of combining machine has increased due to the increase in our equipment deployed for mining. These factors have led to a negative gross profit of this quarter. In 2023, the bitcoin price has only moderately rebounded and recently declined. If we further adjust down the price for the higher hash rate A12 model, then we would incur additional inventory write-down in the fourth quarter of 2023. However, if we are able to sell this inventory at a price higher than the cost, the provision for inventory write-down that we have recorded can be used to offset the sales cost, thereby increasing our gross profit margin. I think I have tried to answer your question.

Shuang Sun

Analyst

So the next question what's recent development in audit risk?

James Cheng

Analyst

I think you are talking about the previous PCLB issue. Regarding the audit issue, faced by the Chinese stocks and the consequence risk of delisting, I think we have happily noticed that China and the U.S. are working towards a solution. And there has been positive progress recently on December 15, 2022, the PCLB announced that it was able to fully inspect -- investigate PCLB registered public accounting firms headquartered in Mainland China and Hong Kong. So given the solid progress so far, the market is more optimistic towards reaching a solution for the audit issues. And from a company perspective, we have been actively exploring possible solutions since the emergence of the delisting risk caused by auditing issues. Our goal is to protect the interest of stakeholders, especially our shareholders and maintain data and compliance advantages as a listed company and to develop the longer term of payment. In the process of our globalization, we have also expanded our operations and supply chain overseas. As a listed company, our majority of revenues are generated overseas. So we will continue to maintain and strengthen our government's capabilities for compliance and legal operations in different countries and different regions and maintain active communications with the capital market. I think that's my answer.

Shuang Sun

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Brendler from D. A. Davidson. Please ask your question, Chris.

Chris Brendler

Analyst

Hi, thanks. Good morning and thanks for taking my questions. My first question is just given all the excitement around ChatGPT and AI. Can you give us an update on your AI business? Thanks.

Nangeng Zhang

Analyst

Thank you for your question. Our current lineup of our AI chips primarily focused on CV for like analyzing the processing regions like SaaS [ph] to the machine region and machine hearing. I think it's different from the currently ChatGPT has launched models. But we are amazed and excited by the progress of technology. The remarkable advancements in AI technology have given us hope in addressing some of the programs that have popped in the industry such as like I mentioned before for user experience and underwriting intelligence levels. We believe that this is the direction we should go. So of course, these new AI technologies have completely different hardware requirements compared to the past. And we need some time to explore and research in these areas. So I think in the short term to midterm, we will continue to work in the area of AI chips that we are familiar with, and we are -- we have -- and continuously iterate and improve our products. These products are still valuable and can provide users with better experience. But I think we have benefits because we have access to the high-end technology. So I hope in the long term, we will evolve this kind of AI chips.

Chris Brendler

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then a different question, maybe this is more for James. Just help me think about the share buyback, and then I'll fill in the ATM. Is the ATM more for growth initiatives where the share buyback is more near term use in excess cash, how will you balance those two?

James Cheng

Analyst

Yes. I think just now, we have mentioned we did execute based on our share repurchase program in quarter 4, and we have not commenced using our ATM facility yet. In late November, we filed this 424B5 and completed the setup of this ATM facility. I think that this will enable us to quickly execute financing activities when the timing is appropriate in the future. We will consider our own performance and wait for the market conditions to improve. I think currently, the valuation needs to recover to a certain extent. After fully considering the interest of our shareholders, I think we will flexibly and prudently carry out financing activities. So due to the specific financial needs of our industry, it is necessary for us to have a long-term plan in the capital market. I think this will help us mitigate potential operational risks and see fleeting business opportunities.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Bond from Rosenblatt Securities. Please question, Andrew.

Andrew Bond

Analyst

Could you guys discuss your growing focus and plans for business growth in the U.S. and how that market is progressing?

Nangeng Zhang

Analyst

Thank you. We highly value the North American market because it has a large concentration of miners. So we have established multifunctional team in the local area that handles warehousing logistics, sales and aftersales services. We also set up several maintenance service centers or spare part warehouses to provide more convenient after-sales support for our customers in North and even South America. I think even so even through the current inventory level in U.S. is especially for used machines -- mining machines remains high as inventories remain high. We believe that buying our new machines is valuable for customers. They can enjoy 1 year free warranty services and which are very valuable for miners and can provide them with a better mining experience. This is that use mining machines cannot consider this besides the natural environment and the resources in North America mining side varies a lot. These types are often located in different geographical areas such as deserts, coasts or high latitude regions with extreme core temporary or extremely high temperatures. So this environment condition is very challenging. We work with our customers to provide customized cooling and mining solutions based on the conditions of their mine site. At the same time, our mining business in North America keeps expanding. As of now, we already have multiple projects under contract or already in operation. We expect our mining scale in North America to be over 40% of our total computing power in stock at the end of the first quarter of 2023.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions. Now I'd like to turn the call back to the company for any closing remarks.

James Cheng

Analyst

Hi, everyone. We really appreciate you all taking the time to join the call with us today. If you have any further questions, please feel free to reach out to our team through the contact information on our website, and we look forward to further discussion with you next time. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. That concludes the call today. Thank you for attending everyone. You may now disconnect.