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Conduent Incorporated (CNDT)

Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 7, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Conduent's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Joshua Overholt, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Joshua Overholt

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thank you for everyone joining us today to discuss Conduent's third quarter 2025 earnings. I'm joined today by Cliff Skelton, our President and CEO; and Giles Goodburn, our CFO. We hope you had a chance to review our press release issued earlier this morning. This call is being webcast, and a copy of the slides used during this call as well as the press release were filed with the SEC this morning on a Form 8-K. This information as well as the detailed financial metrics package are available on the Investor Relations section of the Conduent website. During this call, we may make statements that are forward-looking. These forward-looking statements reflect management's current beliefs, assumptions and expectations and are subject to a number of factors that may cause actual results to vary materially from these statements. Information concerning these factors is included in Conduent's annual report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC. We do not intend to update these forward-looking statements as a result of new information or future events or developments, except as required by law. The information presented today includes non-GAAP financial measures. Because these measures are not calculated in accordance with U.S. GAAP, they should be viewed in addition to and not as a substitute for the company's reported results. For more information regarding definitions of our non-GAAP measures and how we use them as well as the limitations to their usefulness for comparative purposes, please see our press release. And now I would like to turn the call over to Cliff.

Clifford Skelton

Analyst · Singular Research

Thank you, Josh, and thank you, everyone, for joining Conduent's Q3 2025 earnings presentation. As you can tell, Josh Overholt is now our new Head of Investor Relations. We've been waiting for Josh to arrive from the other side, if you will, where Josh was part of an investment team we periodically communicated with. It's great to now have Josh's advice as our new Head of FP&A and Investor Relations. Let me start by saying, wow, it's been kind of an uncertain ride in our federal government lately, as you all know, with the shutdown. I've often said that the bulk of our business in the public sector is at the state and local level, even though some of the funds the states distribute come from the federal government, obviously. We're lucky enough that most of these funds are entitlements unaffected by shutdowns, although SNAP, for example, can come with some concern. We were told as recently as yesterday that the emergency fund allotment is now at 65% and includes our administrative fees. So that's good. So far, we haven't seen an impact due to unfunded programs, but we have seen an occasional wait-and-see perspective from time to time on new deals and milestones. Regarding the quarter from a financial perspective, it was a good quarter as it relates to adjusted revenue, EBITDA and margin. We're proud of our performance given the current environment, and we're equally proud to see consistent sales performance and an expanding sales pipeline. Revenue was in line with guidance, slightly up sequentially to $767 million and directly in line with our pursuit of positive year-over-year growth objectives. Giles will talk about the puts and takes in revenue in a few minutes. EBITDA also came in as per guidance with both year-over-year and sequential improvement at…

Giles Goodburn

Analyst · Singular Research

Thanks, Cliff. As we've done in the past, we are reporting both GAAP and non-GAAP numbers. The reconciliations are in our filings and in the appendix of the presentation. Let's discuss the key sales metrics on Slides 5 and 6. We signed $111 million of new business ACV in the quarter, consistent with prior year. Year-to-date 2025, new business ACV is up 5% versus the same period in 2024. While we have line of sight to achieve stronger sales this year than in 2024, the uncertainty surrounding the speed to execute agreements within the government agencies could push some deals into 2026. Within the quarter, we signed 10 new logos and 25 new capabilities, both sequentially up versus Q2 and on a combined basis, up 7% year-to-date versus the prior year, with the strength coming from supporting our existing client base with new capabilities. New business TCV was up 5% versus the prior year at $246 million. This was another strong quarter of sales execution in our Transportation business, which includes the Richmond Metropolitan Authority new logo win and puts that segment up 320% year-to-date versus 2024. Our qualified ACV pipeline remains strong at $3.4 billion, which is up 9% year-over-year. The strength here is driven by our Government segment as we pursue opportunities in the federal space. Let's turn to Slide 7 and review the Q3 2025 P&L metrics. Adjusted revenue for Q3 2025 was $767 million compared to $781 million in Q3 2024, down 1.8% year-over-year, but within the range that I guided last quarter. Transportation generated another quarter of strong growth. However, the decline was driven by our Commercial and Government segments, which I'll discuss in more detail in a moment. While still down year-over-year, we continue to narrow the gap towards positive revenue growth. Adjusted EBITDA…

Clifford Skelton

Analyst · Singular Research

Thank you, Giles. As always, a couple of closing comments prior to taking questions. Our revenue continues to reflect the puts and takes of our transformational journey, while, as you can see, adjusted EBITDA and margin are meeting expectations on the high end and continue to be predictable. You can now tell that we remain on track for the 2024 to 2025 EBITDA expansion we've been talking about, where we said you should expect a significant increase and then continued year-over-year increases in adjusted EBITDA and margin. Meanwhile, we're focused on revenue and conversion of working capital to cash for the remainder of 2025 as areas somewhat inhibited by a weaker start in Commercial sales and as mentioned, some deal pushes in the Government space associated with the timing of milestone recognition and what was in anticipated government shutdown in late Q3. But again, much demand remains pent up and on the horizon. Some tactics we have underway are as follows: we revised our Commercial go-to-market and leadership model to take out layers and produce increased opportunities to penetrate our current client base. We're enhancing sales and revenue generation talent to open new doors with proven leaders in the BPO and BPaaS technology industries. Not only have we embedded our solutions with more Gen AI, but we've begun to do a better job telling our digitization and AI story, including the as mentioned launch of our AI experience center in New Jersey and the deployment of numerous AI initiatives, not pilots, but real production solutions in areas like agent assist, language smoothing, language translation tools, automated indexing in our digital platforms and automated detection of pharmaceutical reportable events, all of which will drive margin expansion and open new revenue generation opportunities. We've seen significant fraud reduction in our electronic payment…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Gowshi Sri with Singular Research.

Gowshihan Sriharan

Analyst · Singular Research

Can you hear me?

Clifford Skelton

Analyst · Singular Research

Yes. We got you, Gowshi.

Gowshihan Sriharan

Analyst · Singular Research

Just -- you flagged that you had near closes in Q2 that was -- that was expected to close in Q3. How much of that pipeline actually closed this quarter given that the closings were kind of flattish year-on-year? And would that be -- would we be seeing some acceleration if the government shutdown eases up? And when would that be?

Clifford Skelton

Analyst · Singular Research

It's sort of like the small animal through a snake. It's coming through. I think it's exacerbated, Gowshi, in Q3 because of the government shutdown due to timing in the federal government releasing some deals in places like the CMS where approval is needed in order to get states to be able to approve health care deals, Medicaid deals. I don't see any massive change from Q3 to 2 to 3 to 4 other than in that Government space that we just talked about.

Gowshihan Sriharan

Analyst · Singular Research

Got you. I know you highlighted Gen AI deployment in both Government and Commercial space. How are you measuring productivity or quality gains that will concretely boost the client stickiness or cross-sell opportunity? Any solutions that might be in the public sector win? What is your expectation on the contract size and the margin uplift from the Gen AI pilot?

Clifford Skelton

Analyst · Singular Research

Yes, it's a great question. The primary pilot in the Government space is in our fraud category, specifically in our Direct Express program where address validation is really important. We've used Gen AI to expedite that and create a faster determination from our associates. We see that spreading throughout the Medicaid and the SNAP environments as well, where we can reduce fraud quickly, and that's been a big mission of the federal government as well. In the Commercial space, it's more around customer experience where everybody is deploying fraud, things like language translation, smoothing, agent assist, those kinds of things as well as where we see a real opportunity in scanning and indexing where we can use Gen AI to automate the indexing to create a claims adjudication-ready platform for our clients. So that's a big space. That's going to create both revenue and expense opportunities. The fraud space is more about expense reduction opportunities. What's still outline is how do we pass those capabilities on to the client. In other words, where do we share in both those expense reductions and those revenue increases. Those are contract by contract, to be honest with you, and it's going to depend on exactly what the endeavor is.

Giles Goodburn

Analyst · Singular Research

And just to add to that, Gowshi, we're seeing the expense -- positive expense impact from the fraud initiatives in the Government space turn up in the P&L now and in the last quarter as well. So we're seeing the fruits.

Clifford Skelton

Analyst · Singular Research

And we're seeing in Commercial as well. Yes.

Giles Goodburn

Analyst · Singular Research

Yes.

Gowshihan Sriharan

Analyst · Singular Research

Got you. Given that there's a negative operating cash flow, I know you said 87% of that -- the divestitures done. Are there any specific cost out of stranded cost areas left to tackle? What's the internal time line for fully realizing those benefits?

Giles Goodburn

Analyst · Singular Research

Yes. So I think we're through the initial phase of stranded costs related to the divestitures we did last year. Clearly, we're in the process of Phase 2 of the portfolio rationalization, and there'll be a little bit that we act on in 2026. One thing I will say is we do have a very strong cost discipline in the organization, and we're continually looking to optimize areas, whether it's in spans and layers in the organization or our real estate portfolio. So it's a continual effort, and we'll keep on that journey.

Gowshihan Sriharan

Analyst · Singular Research

Okay. And just my last question. As you -- given the environment as it is, are you changing the contract clauses or structural changes, especially given the recent Government or Commercial deals to reduce churn risk or exposure to budget delays?

Clifford Skelton

Analyst · Singular Research

No, we're not, Gowshi. I mean the thing to remember here, given the government shutdown is it hasn't affected our revenue stream. It's affecting the timing of milestones and the release of sales opportunities that all are going to get through the end of the snake, as I mentioned earlier. But the revenue stream and the revenue deployment is not affected, and we're primarily a state and local government business in the public sector. So we see no reason to change the model as we speak today.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company, LLC.

Marc Riddick

Analyst · Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company, LLC

I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the client mix that you're seeing, particularly on AI endeavors. You made mention of the fraud focus. I was wondering maybe you could talk a little bit about maybe what the industry verticals look like and maybe if there's sort of a first movers, if you will, that are engaging and maybe what you're learning from them?

Clifford Skelton

Analyst · Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company, LLC

Yes. It's two different questions really depending on whether it's Commercial or in the Government space. In the Commercial space, we're in the neighborhood of 30% to 40% in health care. And a lot of the opportunity from an AI perspective and efficiency perspective and potentially even the fraud reduction perspective, although not yet, is in that health care space. In the Government space, it's a different kind of health care. It's Medicaid processing primarily and Medicaid eligibility, where there's a lot more fraud and a lot more opportunities to reduce expense and drive fraud reduction. So I mean, it's 2 different opportunities, but most of those opportunities from an early mover perspective are centered around health care.

Marc Riddick

Analyst · Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company, LLC

Great. And then as we sort of think about the opportunities on the Commercial side. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about as we sort of look into next year, I can understand some delays with activity and the like. But do you get the sense that there's any particular areas that you would like to shore up bandwidth or sort of maybe the level of comfort that you have as far as being able to meet opportunities -- growth opportunities on the Commercial side?

Clifford Skelton

Analyst · Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company, LLC

On the Commercial side, I mean, if you think about our product sort of penetration, we're less than 2 products per client, which for a company that has as many products and opportunities as we have is too low. We're very focused on that client penetration, especially in our top 60, top 80 clients. And we're putting some new processes in place to deploy against that. Again, health care is a big play there. But the continuum -- for example, the continuum of service and claims adjudication from -- all the way from the beginning of a claim through the servicing of a claim as opportunities end, we're intently focused on that. And we're also focused on some software deployment and software licensing opportunities that we've never really deployed in the Commercial space. We just had our first one with our HSP license to a midsized client in California. We've always done it to a lesser degree in public health medicine in the public sector with our Maven platform, but we're now starting to do the same thing in Commercial. So we see real upside here in technology deployment. We see real upside in further penetration of our current client base. We're putting a new business development team together to feed the top end of that pipeline better, which we think is the Achilles' heel for us in Commercial. It's really not sales execution. It's feeding the top of the pipeline. So we're all over that, and then we're all over the penetration of our current client base.

Giles Goodburn

Analyst · Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company, LLC

And I think, Marc, we're seeing some of the results in that, right? As I said in my remarks, on a year-to-date basis, we're up year-over-year as far as new capability sales are in the Commercial and overall in the Conduent organization, and that's selling new product into the existing client base. And specifically, as it relates to Commercial, put aside the largest client that we've got, the other '24 of '25 clients are growing year-over-year as well. So we're seeing some of that actually flow through into the financials.

Clifford Skelton

Analyst · Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company, LLC

I mean that's a great point. While we're not satisfied with our Commercial sales in 2025 just yet, I mean, absent that one client, it's already growing. So there's real opportunity. We're seeing growth already. We just need to outrun that one client.

Marc Riddick

Analyst · Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company, LLC

Got you. And then so do you potentially see -- I think there was a mention made as far as adding talent, sales talent. Is there sort of a general time frame or sort of runway that you see there? I guess that's kind of a '26 question. I know we're not doing '26 guidance, but I guess maybe I'm sort of thinking about the time frame of how some of that might roll out.

Clifford Skelton

Analyst · Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company, LLC

Well, it necessarily will affect '26 performance, but it necessarily needs to happen in Q4 2025.

Operator

Operator

And we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session, and this also does conclude today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation. Have a great day.