Annmarie Gayle
Analyst · Richard Deutsch with Private Investor
Okay. So just to remind you, in this quarter, the Marine Technology business sales went up by 30.7%, I believe, and hardware sale component also went up significantly. And I think, yes, by 103.6% and within that mix, it's mainly Echoscope and DAVD. So that's the first thing to see that we do believe that we're making good progress. In the quarter, the disappointing part of our quarter is really about rentals where rentals have decreased largely because of the shift in funding opportunities for offshore renewables. And while we believe that in the longer run, that will be offset by more projects for oil and gas, it still takes time to spin up a development. So overall, I think that we're making good progress. But really, as I've emphasized over and over for the business to grow, we do, I mean, a sizable part of our revenue comes from the commercial offshore marine market. The model for that market is different because then often a sale is a single sale or rental, really, the opportunity for sizable or scalable growth lies in the defense space. And that's a process. It's not an event. I believe we're making all the right progress to get the technology into programs where the technology is being looked at for integration into these broader programs. And last quarter, I did report on some significant findings for some of the defense programs that have evaluated the Echoscope technology and concluded the Echoscope is superior in terms of its performance and capabilities. So I do believe we're making progress in really, where it matters is the defense market because there, first of all, there's budget, and then there's opportunity for multiple sales, recurring sales. And that's what we're targeting. And we're starting to see some of that from the DAVD product line where we're seeing year in, year out budget now being appropriated for that line of products with pull-through Echoscope sales. So overall, I feel the pace is a bit slow, but that is not unusual for programs that they take a longer time in evaluating the technology and once it's really then adopted, that's when we start seeing the sales that we would like to see. And a critical juncture we've reached in this quarter also is the successful conclusion of the hardening program for the DAVD where I think that program is 2 years ago, it started where the whole purpose of that was to deliver prototypes for evaluation by operational divers in the special forces and really getting feedback and refining the technology, we have now delivered what we believe is the refined product for this key market. So I do believe that we're making really good progress against the key milestones that are important for the growth of the business.