Yes, it's a good question. As you know, that market, we've been through almost a couple of mini cycles in the last few years. COVID hit and things really slowed down. So we were kind of taking some lower margin projects. Then we had a period where things opened up again and things looked good. And now we're producing some of the lower margin projects, again, because with interest rate spiking and some economic uncertainty, some of the projects have been put on hold. Despite that, as we said, our backlog has grown. Biddings are very geographic, I'll say. We were talking to the leadership in that group just in the last couple of days and the Sunbelt remains pretty solid, as you would imagine. Toronto where we have a nice presence has some good construction going on. The California market, especially in Northern California, has been a little softer. And as you know our Smoke Guard part specifically, we have a good opportunity there, because we're the distributor and the manufacturer. So we kind of have that double dip when we fell into that market, and that's been a little softer. So there's geographic pockets here and there. So we've seen bidding slow down just a little because I think funding for these projects has taken a little longer to firm up because of where interest rates are and equity expectations are. But our team is doing a really good job, as Joe mentioned in his comments, focused on those high quality developers or projects with a high likelihood that they're going to get done. We know that our backlog right now is solid. The projects in there are out of the ground. And as you know, our parts are at the backend. So what's in the backlog now that we've been taking orders for the last quarter or two, that's 9, 12, 18 months out. So I think as we get deeper into fiscal '24, the back half and then even to fiscal '25, which is hard to say out loud, but that's a little over a year away for us, we'll really start seeing these newer entries into the backlog come through the revenue. But in the meantime, the group's doing a good job keeping busy, keeping the projects going. The margins are just a little softer, given the nature of those products.