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Ducommun Incorporated (DCO)

Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Sun, May 7, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Ducommun First Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Mr. Chris Witty. You may begin.

Chris Witty

Analyst

Thank you, and welcome to Ducommun's 2017 First Quarter Conference Call. With me today are Steve Oswald, President and CEO; and Doug Groves, Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. I'm going to discuss certain limitations to any forward-looking statements regarding future events, projections or performance that we may make during the prepared remarks or the question-and-answer session that follows. Certain statements that are not historical facts, including any statements as to future market conditions, results of operations and financial projections, are forward-looking statements under the federal Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and are therefore, perspective. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors, which could cause actual results to differ materially from the future results expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Although we believe that expectations reflected in our forward-looking statements are reasonable, we can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to be correct. In addition, estimates of future operating results are based on the company's current business, which is subject to change. Particular risks facing Ducommun include, among others, the cyclicality of our end use markets, the level of U.S. government defense spending, legal and regulatory risks, management changes, the cost of expansion and acquisitions and competition. These risks and others are described in our annual report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC, and our forward-looking statements are subject to those risks. Statements made during this call are only as of the time made, and we do not intend to update any statements made in this presentation except if and as required by regulatory authorities. This call includes non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our Form 10-Q filed with the SEC for a reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures referenced on this call to the most similar GAAP measures. We filed our Form 10-Q with the SEC earlier today discussing our results for the quarter ended April 1, 2017. You will find a link to the company's SEC filings, including our Form 10-K, on the company's website under the Investor Relations tab. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Steve Oswald for a review of the operating results. Steve?

Steve Oswald

Analyst

Thanks, Chris, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today for our 2017 First Quarter Conference Call. I'll begin by providing an overview of our performance, including some market color. Afterwards, I'm going to have Doug Groves go over our financial results in detail. We posted revenue of 136 million for the quarter, up slightly year-over-year adjusted for the divestitures. That's reflecting a nice rebound on our military business and stable shipments across our large commercial platforms even as some of the platform transitions take place. We also generated 13 million in cash flow from operations, which was the best Q1 performance over the best 10 -- over the last 10 years and more than double that of 2016. The company did pay down an additional 5 million of debt in the quarter as well. And with a backlog of 581 million, I believe the company is positioned well for a solid performance this year. But before providing more color on our markets and platforms, let me just step back and talk about the past few months. Since joining the company in late January, I spent a great deal of time reviewing all aspects of our operations, meeting staff, touring factories, assessing financial performance and visiting with our customers. I believe Ducommun has a good portfolio of products and serves a broad array of key aerospace and defense platforms. But I also believe we have a potential to be much better. Even as we've accomplished a good deal these past 12 months resulting in a more focused organization and improved cost structure. I see room for higher operating performance, including margin expansion going forward. And I like, I'm assessing all areas of the organization for new ways to streamline manufacturing, further increase margins and enhance return on capital. I've also…

Doug Groves

Analyst

Thank you, Steve, and good day to everyone. Revenue for the first quarter of 2017 was 136.3 million compared to 142.1 million for the first quarter of 2016. Adjusting for the divestitures and plant consolidations, revenue rose 2% year-over-year. On an adjusted basis, there was a decline year-over-year of 6 million in lower revenue within the company's commercial aerospace markets, primarily due to the wind-down of a regional jet program and the transition to new models across the large airframe platform, along with 5.8 million of lower revenue within our industrial markets, which was due to the divestiture of our -- the company's Pittsburgh facility in January of 2016 and closure of one of our Tulsa operations last June. The negative impact of such items was partially offset by 5.9 million of higher revenue within Ducommun's military and space markets, reflecting stronger deliveries even with the negative impact of our Miltec divestiture last March. Ducommun's backlog was approximately $581 million at the end of the first quarter, down slightly from year-end, primarily reflecting the timing of certain commercial orders. The backlog remains near record levels, as Steve mentioned, and once again, underscores our strong position within a rather healthy aerospace market. Moving to gross profit. Our gross margin was 18.3% in the first quarter versus 19% in last year's comparable period. The decline in gross margin was primarily due to product mix and the continued ramping of production on certain commercial programs within the company's Structural Systems segment. SG&A was $20.8 million in the first quarter versus $22.7 million in 2016. This primarily reflects our divestitures as well as cost-cutting initiatives. The first quarter of 2017 also included approximately $1 million of nonrecurring executive transition costs. Operating income for the first quarter of 2017 was $4.1 million or 3% of…

Steve Oswald

Analyst

Thanks, Doug. I'll just add a few final comments before we open it up to questions. As I said in the beginning, Ducommun has come a long way these past few years, leaving us a more focused provider of key technologies to the aerospace and defense industry. But there are other opportunities to strengthen both our growth outlook and bottom line results. I, as well as the team, want to take the company to the next level. As mentioned earlier, I've already hired some individuals to help us do so as well as making sure we set clear expectations for everyone on the team. I'll provide updates in the coming quarters on the steps we're taking to increase margins, further streamline our operations, improve customer satisfaction and drive higher returns on capital. With that, operator, let's now open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Ed Marshall from Sidoti. Your line is open.

Edward Marshall

Analyst

Welcome to the call, Steve.

Steve Oswald

Analyst

Thank you very much, Ed.

Edward Marshall

Analyst

Yes, absolutely. So I guess the first question, you've mentioned the unprofitable mix. And I would have figured, with some of the divestitures that you had and then the increased shipments of the F-15, F-18 and Black Hawk, which are typically higher-margin on the gross margin level, that would have been a positive mix shift for you. Can you kind of walk me through maybe some of the puts and takes to the unprofitable mix that you saw in Q1?

Doug Groves

Analyst

Well, Ed, if you look at the segment results, it's really driven more by the structures business. Our electronic segment operating income was 9% for the quarter. So as we said last quarter, that's going to move around a little bit, but it stays in that 9% to 10% range. In the structure segment, the operating margin was only 4.6%. So it really had more to do with, as we said on the last call, the 25 development programs we have underway in structures that are creating a little bit of drag on the margins that we expect to get back later this year as we get through that development work and all those programs come online.

Edward Marshall

Analyst

Right. And you talked about the 5% to 8% operating margin in that business near term. I'm curious, what's your definition of near term? And as we look into the second half of the year with the next-generation ramp-up, do we continue to see that weigh on the margin as well?

Doug Groves

Analyst

Yes. I think we would define near term as the next couple of quarters.

Edward Marshall

Analyst

Okay. And does that include the next-generation ramp? Or we'd see another ship lower on that?

Doug Groves

Analyst

No, that would include the ramp. We're looking at that 5% to 8% range for the next few quarters. So you've got new programs coming on. And as you know, with new program ramps, there's inefficiency until you get to the full rate.

Edward Marshall

Analyst

Right. Steve, I know that you have, you've had only a short period of time, so maybe this is an unfair question, but I'll give it a shot anyway.

Steve Oswald

Analyst

Thank you.

Edward Marshall

Analyst

You talked about the next quarter conference calls, the following conference calls, you'll talk more about maybe some of the plans that you have. But maybe I could ask it, maybe I can ask a little bit of a forward-looking question about, what do you think the appropriate margin for Ducommun is based on what your assessment has been over the last couple months?

Steve Oswald

Analyst

Well, certainly, I'll just say this. Look, I'm still going through the process, right? And as I said on my note, I will be following up the next few quarters. I'll give a lot more color to it. But I certainly believe that the margins are in a great position to expand, all right? I think that we, as I get involved in this, we got a lot of work to do operationally. We also have to make sure that when we're looking at our portfolio mix, that we're really driving to the programs that we add the most value.

Edward Marshall

Analyst

Okay. Doug, just curious. Tax benefit, the windfall tax in the quarter, if you could just clear that up for me. What was the dollar amount, the absolute value?

Doug Groves

Analyst

Sure. So our rate benefited almost 10 full points from the new accounting standard that came into effect due to share-based compensation. So you could take the reported rate of 15.6% and add back to that. So it would have been closer to 27% without that benefit.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Christopher Van Horn from FBR.

Dan Drawbaugh

Analyst

This is Dan Drawbaugh on the line for Chris. So if I could start with the line you mentioned in the press release related to strategic initiatives potentially driving inorganic growth. Can you talk a little bit about the opportunities that you're looking at there and maybe what you're seeing in the marketplace?

Doug Groves

Analyst

Sure. Well, I think as Steve mentioned in his remarks, we have hired Suman to help us look at several different initiatives to help drive inorganic growth. He's just getting onboarded as we speak. So as we get into later this year, as we've said in previous calls, looking at things that would help supplement the organic growth will be largely what he's going to be focused on.

Dan Drawbaugh

Analyst

Okay, that's fair. And in terms of balancing that against repaying debt and working towards your leverage target, how are you thinking about that going forward?

Doug Groves

Analyst

Sure. So we've been pretty straightforward for quite a while that we want to get the leverage down to that 2.5, 2.25 level. We think that's the right place for our company, and that also gives us the flexibility to start looking at potential bolt-on acquisitions as we get into the second half of this year and beyond.

Dan Drawbaugh

Analyst

Okay, fair enough. And then last one for me. Can you talk a little bit about the conversations that you're having with customers as they sort of begin getting positioned for the next budget negotiation? I guess we've got the omnibus going through now, but September is only a few months away.

Doug Groves

Analyst

Well, Dan, I think the conversations are -- the similar ones we've had in the past, we're very cautiously optimistic that we're going to see an increase in defense spending. And certainly, what was released the first part of this week gives us that optimism when we saw the number of units being funded for the Black Hawk, which, of course, is one of our major programs as well a few of the others, the Apaches, spending for missile platform. So once all the dust settles, we'll see. But we're remaining very, as I said, cautiously optimistic about what the budget holds for us.

Steve Oswald

Analyst

Yes. This is Steve. Yes, [indiscernible] so...

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Aman Gulani from B. Riley & Co.

Aman Gulani

Analyst

So my question is in terms of backlog. It got me a little bit. How do you see you executing on your backlog for the remainder of the year?

Doug Groves

Analyst

Sure. Well, we're optimistic, as I just said, about the defense part of our business as well as commercial aerospace. I mean, the first quarter, typically, is a lower quarter for backlog in terms of timing of orders. So we've got a lot of good things in the works, so we would expect that we're going to be able to materialize on that and see the backlog continue to be sound for where we're at with the platforms that we've got.

Operator

Operator

At this time, I'm showing no further questions. I would like to turn the call back over to Steve Oswald for closing remarks.

Steve Oswald

Analyst

Yes, okay. Well, thank you. And I want to thank everybody again for joining us. As I mentioned, as we move forward here in time, I guess, more experience and activity with the team and the facilities, we'll continue to update you on further developments on changes and things we're driving to increase our performance. So I'll leave it there. Thank you again.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.