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DigitalOcean Holdings, Inc. (DOCN)

Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 16, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Rob and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I’d like to welcome everyone to the DigitalOcean Fourth Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Rob Bradley, Vice President of Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Rob Bradley

Analyst

Thanks, Rob and thank you and welcome, everybody to DigitalOcean’s Q4 2022 earnings call. Joining me today is Yancey Spruill, our Chief Executive Officer; and Matt Steinfort, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I want to cover our Safe Harbor statement. During this conference call, we will be making forward-looking statements, including our financial outlook for the first quarter and full year as well as statements about our goals, business outlook, industry trends, market opportunities and expectations for future financial performance. All of these statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions. We can review more information about these in the Risk Factors section of our filings with the SEC. We remind everyone that our actual results may differ and we undertake no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements. Finally, we will be discussing our non-GAAP financial measures on our call and reconciliations between our GAAP and non-GAAP financial results can be found in our earnings press release, which was issued earlier this morning and in our investor presentation, which can be found on our website. With that, let me turn the call over to our CEO, Yancey Spruill. Yancey?

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Thanks, Rob. Good morning and thank you for joining us. I’d like to welcome Matt Steinfort, who joined as our CFO in early January and is integrating nicely with our team, and as you will see shortly, he is coming up to speak quickly. I’d like to start with a recap of 2022 and share our initial thoughts on growth and profitability for 2023, including detailing our key initiatives for the year. I will then turn it over to Matt to provide more color on our results and on our financial outlook for 2023 and share more about our capital allocation strategy. To say the very least, 2022 was an odd year. While the first quarter was strong by early Q2, we saw an emerging dynamic where both new customer acquisition and expansion in our cohort of customers began to slow. Despite executing initiatives throughout the year to boost growth, we saw continued slower growth in our existing customer cohorts and new customer acquisition and that has continued into 2023. The three key headwinds that drove this slowing growth were: first, a general softness across our existing customers in terms of slower expansion and more volatile new customer additions, particularly among smaller customers. Expansion decelerated 400 basis points across the year. Importantly, churn largely remained in line with prior periods. We have consistently heard from our customers through formal surveys that despite their businesses having slowed, they continue to see us as a critical part of their business operations and that they aren’t looking to move from DigitalOcean. Second, the collapse of Bitcoin’s valuation and its impact on our customers in blockchain, which represented 5% of total revenue at the peak in Q2, but declined to 1.5% as we exited the year. And finally, falloff from the war in Ukraine…

Matt Steinfort

Analyst

Thanks, Yancey. Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us today on our Q4 2022 earnings call. I am very excited to be here and to participate on my first earnings call as DigitalOcean’s Chief Financial Officer. While I just recently joined the company earlier this year, I have already witnessed in our fourth quarter and full year results one of the key reasons why DigitalOcean was so appealing to me in the first place. I consider myself very fortunate to have joined an organization that’s delivering very healthy top line growth, has a strong capital structure and is generating meaningful and growing free cash flow on both an absolute and a per share basis. Another appeal for me was the company’s strong competitive differentiation and large addressable market with ample room to grow and to improve return on invested capital. I see a tremendous opportunity ahead for DigitalOcean as it is positioned both to grow along with the large addressable cloud market and to capture additional market share. We have a great brand and platform that is specifically tailored to the SMB market. The company’s focus on simplicity, excellent price to value and strong customer satisfaction has enabled it to carve out a leadership position in this attractive and growing segment of the market outside the focus of the large hyperscalers. Third important factor for me joining on top of the strong financials and compelling competitive position was the quality of the management team at DigitalOcean. I had previously worked with the Zayo Group, which at the time was a publicly traded, multibillion-dollar revenue communications infrastructure company, where I was the CFO and he was the Lead Director. And worked together, we successfully executed a $14.5 billion take-private of the company. From that experience, I have a tremendous…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Jim Breen from William Blair. Your line is open.

Jim Breen

Analyst

Thanks for taking the question. Just on the revenue generation side, on the revenue growth side, can you just talk about some of the more specific things you’re seeing that sort of caused you to sort of push out revenue guide for 2024? And then just on the buyback, how confident you in the free cash flow generation in case are opportunities for M&A and using that cash? Thanks.

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Well, in terms of the growth outlook, given what we’re seeing currently, and the outlook that we set for this year, we’ve decided to push out the expectations for $1 billion. Again, that $1 billion target was organic and inorganic. So it’s – but just to be cautious in facing the realities of what we’re looking at, that’s the basis for pushing out the outlook by a year. It’s also the rationale for accelerating the margins, as I said in the script, we see the two as related. And frankly, if you look at how we looked at the view of growing north of 30% through 2024 to get to that first $1 billion and ramping the free cash flow margin versus our current outlook with the acceleration of margins, we’re actually going to generate more free cash flow in the next couple of years that we would have under a higher growth scenario. So we’re very comfortable with the outlook and the margin mix. And it’s very important that you all understand that’s exactly how we think about it. In terms of – I’ll comment on the free cash flow confidence. The way we look at it is we prioritize organic investment and making sure that over the next several years, we are taking care of building out our platform products, etcetera. We’ve allocated a reasonable amount of – a meaningful amount of capital for M&A – accretive M&A. And I think the M&A we’ve done over the last year or 2 years, whether it’s the Cloudways in the $350 million range or smaller single product company emerging from seed stage is the framework for us from an M&A standpoint. So we’ve allocated a reasonable amount of capital for that. And we project at these higher margins have a pretty significant amount of excess free cash flow, and we’re turning a portion of that – a meaningful portion of that to investors. So it’s a very balanced approach. It’s focusing on growth. It’s focusing on optimizing operations for free cash flow margin. It’s focusing on allocating capital to inorganic initiatives and is focusing on returning capital to shareholders.

Jim Breen

Analyst

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gabriela Borges from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Gabriela Borges

Analyst

Hi, good morning. Thank you. I want to ask you about cyclical versus structural. I think we can appreciate all your commentary on the macro for 2023, your commentary on low to mid-20s growth rate. Has anything changed structurally about your ability to grow over 30% organically long-term? Is there any reason – when you say low to mid 20s, is that a longer term structural growth rate or is that a cyclical target based on what you’re seeing today as well?

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

It is not a long-term target. It’s very specific to our guidance for this year and the realities of what we’re facing this year. And again, it’s an organic growth rate for this year. There isn’t a change other than what we discussed earlier. Nothing changed competitively that we’ve seen. We continue to drive – we – as I mentioned, there is more volatility with smaller customers in terms of their growth. And I think that’s a big aspect of the lower aggregate growth. And then our larger customers, as I mentioned, we stay very close to them. We’re investing in more talented process to engage with even deeper numbers of those cohorts. And they are very consistent in our formal surveys, which we’ve conducted and in our anecdotal – regular daily conversations with them. They are undergoing the same thing, everybody is undergoing in the tech market, which is there are growth challenges. They are in optimization mode, etcetera, and that’s led to – and we’re helping them with that. And frankly, we offer a value – a compelling value proposition given the capabilities and the price point, value is really high. So I think we’re having great conversations. So there is no real change other than everybody is just seeing a lower growth environment, and we’re working through that with our customers. But as you – as Matt laid out, the larger customers, once they break through on our platform, they are growing incredibly healthy. Three handle – almost four handle for the even larger customers. And so I think them doing that on our platform speaks to the value proposition in this environment and the fact that our cost proposition is so compelling. So no change. Smaller customers are more volatile. But as you see, we still have a large enough pool. We’re still adding enough and the pool is sufficiently large that we’re still accelerating graduation on our platform. So we feel very good about where we are. And I think as things moderate, one thing I’m really excited about with this newer cash flow profile, when things do reaccelerate, if they do – if they don’t, we obviously have compelling margins now, we’re going to position for even greater operating leverage in the future. So we feel good about where we are. It’s definitely a challenge, different environment than we thought a year or 2 years ago. But I think our economic model is proving very compelling in the midst of all the uncertainty.

Gabriela Borges

Analyst

That’s helpful. The follow-up I have is on how you thinking on OpEx priority. We have all thought DigitalOcean as being pretty disciplined and thoughtful about your investing base. And so give us a sense, where did you find incremental efficiencies on the workforce reduction and the pace of investment in your direct sales force are you planning to accelerate the pace of investment in direct sales? Thank you.

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Yes. Well, we have invested an accelerated – even as we exited the year on the sales side. As we’ve spoken to previously, we have a narrower set of incremental growth initiatives really around enhancing our foundation around storage. We have a number of other new products that are either about to launch. They are in beta now or will as we approach the middle part of the year. We funded those through reprioritization in the first half of last year as we slim down priorities, as I mentioned earlier. So on that side of the business, we feel like we’ve raised the bar on growth initiatives. I think the hurdle rate is higher, and that’s how we slim down the priorities. In terms of the operating structure, where we found efficiencies, it’s really around setting this business up. We’ve gotten to 650 – $660 million of run rate. And like most businesses, what got you there? Is it going to get you to $1 billion or $2 billion in revenue over time. And so we took this opportunity to kind of rethink how we work, simplify organizational structure, importantly, globalize our business, and we’ve seen incredible success moving talent around the world and that’s part of the activity. And so – and then there was a number of other things that aren’t even on the people side. They are actually contributing more of the efficiencies this year and going forward. Just evaluating where we’re spending our money, what do we need, what do we not need. And frankly, I think it’s what everybody in the tech ecosystem is doing right now. And you add all those up, and that’s a meaningful contributor to the boost in our free cash flow and operating metrics that you’ll see this year.

Gabriela Borges

Analyst

Thank you for the detail.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tim Horan from Oppenheimer. Your line is open.

Tim Horan

Analyst

Thanks guys. Focusing on revenue, it seems like you are looking for a pretty big ramp for the second half of the year, because you’re like 1% sequential in the first quarter, and kind of need more like 5% sequential for the next three quarters to hit the low end of the guidance. Are you planning on any price increases, or are these new products going to drive that? Just talk about how we are going to see that acceleration. Thanks.

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

The low end of the guidance reflects nothing different from where we are – how we are executing now. And the upper end reflects incremental initiatives. We have talked about contributing whether it’s – there is some monetization actions, there wouldn’t be explicit price increases, but as bundling packaging are in the mix, which will have the net effect of pricing leverage, storage capabilities coming online middle of the year. And it’s some of the near-term initiatives we have as well as our investment – incremental investments in sales, our partner capability, our inside sales capability. So, those are contributing near-term. We have our Sydney data center, which I mentioned came online in Q4 is ramping very nicely. So, it’s a host of things, many of which were in flight as we into this year, already in market and some near to coming into market and others coming in Q2, Q3. And you add all that up, and that’s how you get to the upper end of the range.

Tim Horan

Analyst

Got it. But to be clear, I mean annualized in the first quarter, you were kind of at more well below the low in the guidance. So, there is a bunch of things that are hitting that, it’s just the timing, more hitting the second quarter, third quarter to kind of drive the revenue growth, to be clear.

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

The low end of the guidance reflects nothing really changing incrementally from those – contributing from those initiatives. The upper end of the guidance reflects more contribution from those initiatives. The middle is a balance of the two, and we will see ramping. It’s important, though, a number of those initiatives are in flight. So, they will be generally available as we – over the next few weeks, exit this quarter as we get into Q2. So, there is plenty of time for this year for those to contribute. Some of those are monetization, pricing, packaging, bundling options, etcetera. And so you will see a ramp through the year. And our guidance reflects a cautious outlook in the aggregate towards the – reflecting some of the macro uncertainties that we are facing.

Tim Horan

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jim Fish from Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Jim Fish

Analyst

Hey guys. Thanks for the questions. I wanted to touch upon actually the last one here. With the investment behind the direct sales force, but kind of a pullback in spending in other areas of the business, just can you talk about how you are setting quotas and what you are expecting for quota-carrying capacity ramp and what gives you kind of the confidence in this change from a self-serve model to a more direct led model. This direct led model will actually result in an uptick of adoption given how we think about the typical size of your installed base and how they can assume DigitalOcean and when in other areas of tech, we have seen others try to move from kind of self-serve to direct, not go well. Really my question is what gives you confidence this direct sales force shift will result in incremental uptick here?

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Well, there is two points I would make. First of all, let me clarify what investment sales means, what you said earlier. One, it’s inside sales. So, we have, as you pointed out, a large cohort of customers. We have seen significant success over the past few years, adding inside salespeople, expanding the number of people who we assign to accounts. And they are working directly with those accounts to optimize them on the platform. That’s led to ARPU acceleration multiproduct adoption, better use of the cloud, better – and we have helped our customers scale. So we have seen a lot of success there. In fact, we added pretty meaningfully in Q4 to that team so that we can go even deeper, many thousands, ten plus thousands of customers that we are actually talking to now versus sort of low-single digit thousands this time last year. So, that’s a very important distinction. It’s really the enhanced support, customer success inside sales motion. We have already demonstrated that model very successfully. And then our partner channel, as I mentioned, there is a host of digital agencies, hundreds of thousands of them around the world managed hosting providers. As an example, Cloudways is one of them. And we work – we have formalized and tailored an offering to them. And we have seen that stood that up and as we got through last year, and we expect that to see meaningful traction. We already have lots of agencies on the platform organically through organic self-serve even, and we are looking to enhance that through bigger efforts through this partner pod capability. So, those are – I would say they – and for this year, they wouldn’t be bigger than the amount of revenue we generate from self-serve, but they have been very complementary and ramping very rapidly. Ours is always going to be a business, As Matt eloquently laid out, the pool of customers that tests and come to DigitalOcean to test and learn is massive. And that we are always going to build the ecosystem around that because that ecosystem is driving so much of our growth through the graduation from sub-$50 to greater than $50 and then greater than $500 customers.

Jim Fish

Analyst

If I could follow-up on that, I mean how, Yancey, do you guys plan to balance having your own internal agency here with Cloudways versus kind of these external digital agency partners as it could potentially create friction and then when do you expect that storage percentage to actually double? Is it a 2023 thing, or is it kind of more of the 2024, 2025 goal?

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Thanks. The second, we haven’t set a target for the date. We just want to make meaningful progress. And I think as we add features and functionalities over the – and it’s important, we are making progress. We substantially increased the response times cycles per second of storage in Q4. We obviously added SnapShooter from an acquisition earlier this quarter. We will have more features and functionality coming online. So, the 2x is a longer term target. That’s how we benchmark against other folks in cloud. We haven’t put a date on it. We just want to be making progress. And as we make progress and accelerate that, that’s going to be a significant boost to our growth rate. On the first one, there is just no channel conflict. Again, this is a $100 billion market for SMB cloud developer [indiscernible] for cloud. It’s a big market. We did a lot of diligence when we looked at Cloudways around whether there would be channel conflict. We have seen no churn on our platform from companies who do similar things to Cloudways since the acquisition. So, there is no concern on our end about that after a significant amount of diligence on this theme and topic before signing the transaction. And then obviously, we have owned the company now for fove months, just has not been an issue.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Turits from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Eric Heath

Analyst

Hey. Good morning. This is Eric Heath on for Michael. Yancey, you talked about, it seems Cloudways being more resilient than core DigitalOcean. Is there anything different about Cloudways, whether the customer base, value product that makes it a bit more of a resilient business? And then a quick follow-up.

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Yes. It’s a question we ask all the time. I don’t know that we have a resolution on that. And so I don’t want to speculate on that right now. But there is no question that the business has been quite resilient. They do have a higher percentage of those $50 and up customers and we do. We are mid-teens, the legacy deal and Cloudways is in the mid-20s. So, I think that’s an aspect of it. But it’s a – and as I have said in the script, we are taking a lot of learnings and applying them to the whole company. So, really excited to make a large acquisition like that for us, our largest in the middle of 2022, a year of a ton of uncertainty and to have it play out as it’s playing out, we are really excited about where we are and the prospects ahead.

Eric Heath

Analyst

Great. And then just quickly on that. I mean part of the thesis, I think of bringing Cloudways was to kind of reduce that churn that you kind of often see with those customers in the first 90 days or 1 year. Is there any progress you are seeing on that front, number one? And then number two, just curious if you are seeing any progress or opportunities to cross-sell Cloudways to kind of that broader DigitalOcean base?

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Yes. So, we have been very focused in this first several months on the customers who come to DigitalOcean who weren’t best suited for a do-it-yourself model and manage was a better opportunity for them. We have changed a lot of our onboarding flow. And I mentioned more than 15% boost in net new customer acquisitions from Cloudways in the first few months, that’s a big reason. So, we are effectively capturing more value than a year ago, 2 years ago, we might have been missing out on or having churn because we just weren’t the best match. The market size for managed is at least as big as sort of our core model. So, that’s really exciting to have a thesis for an M&A transaction and in months into it are already confirming that. So, we feel good about that. We are working on other cross-sell motions that just have been later in priority and are starting to kicked in now and look forward to updating our investors as we move through the year on that theme. But again, very excited about the progress to-date and even more excited about what’s to come.

Eric Heath

Analyst

Great. Thanks Yancey.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Wamsi Mohan from Bank of America. Your line is open.

Wamsi Mohan

Analyst

Hi. Yes. Thank you. Good morning. Yancey, nice to see the profitability pull in. But I was wondering if you could comment on the cost actions you are taking at full run rate, that should be driving 800 bps of EBITDA improvement and you are guiding 400 basis points to 500 basis points of EBITDA expansion in ‘23. As you look forward, are you converting the incremental dollar of revenue at the same, better or worse operating leverage ex these cost initiatives or restructuring plan that you are taking? And what’s the long-term growth profile for expenses?

Matt Steinfort

Analyst

So Wamsi, it’s Matt. Nice to talk to you again. The – if you look at the total run rate impact of the cost savings that we are projecting, it’s $60 million a year on an annual basis, $35 million of which is non-headcount related, $25 million is headcount related. And as Yancey said, we have seen opportunity to reprioritize some of the investments that we are making in the business to focus on the higher growth and higher return initiatives, and that’s what’s enabled us to drive those costs out. Again, we are also taking advantage of the globalization of our company and moving our resource base to more closely match the kind of the revenue base of the company, which is about 70% international. So, we think there is a lot of opportunity for us to continue to optimize that, while still making very, very effective and strong investments that have good return on invested capital. So, we see incremental operating leverage. Part of the challenge for this year is it’s the costs are going to come in over the course of the year, and it’s going to take a while for those cost effects to manifest themselves in our margins. And so that’s why in my remarks, I tried to guide a little bit towards how we think that we are going to exit the year. And we think, again, from an EBITDA margin standpoint, we should be exiting the year in the low to mid-40s. And from an EBITDA margin – and from a free cash flow, we should be approaching the 30% by the end of this year, and we expect to see further margin improvement going forward.

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Yes. If I can just add one point to that. If you think about – if we take a step back, what does it mean for Matt to say we will exit this year at 30% free cash flow margins, just – it was just 3 years ago, we had negative 25% free cash flow margin. So, you are talking about a 55% increase in 3 years, as the business has gone from about $240 million of revenue to $650 million or – a little over $700 million in revenue. To talk about free cash flow conversion, well over $0.50 on every incremental revenue dollar. So, I just want to make sure we are clear. We are very focused on incremental leverage in the business, and we have already delivered it. And I think you are going to see a substantial improvement in that this year even in a lower growth environment.

Wamsi Mohan

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. And as a follow-up, can you appreciate the details on the learners and builders, scalers that you gave. What is driving the improvement from learners to builders, graduation rates in ‘22? How much was that was – how much of that was a push versus pull effort? And how are you expecting that to trend in ‘23? Thank you.

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

So, great question. I think as we have added more products over the last few years, managed databases, manage Kubernetes, enhanced our marketplace, our serverless portfolio. We have enhanced our infrastructure, compute network and storage solutions. We have added more capability to the platform. And so what that’s enabled us to do, and this is why storage is so important, these investments. As companies grow, their needs for cloud evolve. And if you look at us 3 years to 5 years ago with the slimmer product set, we couldn’t capture as much share of wallet as their cloud spend grew. We are now able to, over the past few years, through our investments, capturing more share of wallet, pushing out, for example, the time a company may go multi-cloud and certainly capturing more of the applications they are needing as they grow their businesses. I think that’s a principal sort of from the product side. And then as I talked about earlier, our investment in inside sales and enhancing our customer service value proposition has helped facilitate that by making customers more aware, building a really good muscle and working closely with customers. So, it’s the combine of the product strategy and then our go-to-market strategy, which has been driving that acceleration in ARPU.

Matt Steinfort

Analyst

And just one thing to add, and we included this data in the earnings presentation supplement. But if you look back all the way to 2018, the part of the power of this model and the elegance of this model is how consistent and improving the graduation rate has been and how consistently we have been adding builders and adding scalers. You look back over the last 5 years that it’s just up and to the right. You can’t even see a blip during the – or any impact during the pandemic. You don’t see really any changes other than the recent acquisition of Cloudways and the pricing action of July. It’s an incredibly durable model.

Wamsi Mohan

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And your final question comes from the line of Vinod Srinivasaraghavan from Barclays. Your line is open.

Vinod Srinivasaraghavan

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking my question here. Just want to follow-up on the last one. You mentioned exiting the year and approaching 30% for free cash flow margins. Is it also fair to say you will exit the year at or approaching the rule of 50?

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Yes.

Vinod Srinivasaraghavan

Analyst

Great. And then I want to talk about early adoption of Cloudways as well for your different customer cohorts. Can you maybe kind of break down customers spending $50 to $500 first, those who are spending over $500, are you seeing any different behavior with the drop in trends so far?

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Sorry, are you speaking just specifically to Cloudways?

Vinod Srinivasaraghavan

Analyst

Yes, just with Cloudways. Is it more just broad-based adoption among your base, or are you seeing, let’s say, your largest customers or your smaller ones adopted more than others?

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Adopting Cloudways?

Vinod Srinivasaraghavan

Analyst

Yes.

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Well, as I mentioned earlier, you are seeing a boost in the $50 and up, especially when considering that 15% or better boost to net new customers. A significant percentage of those are $50 and up customers in terms of the synergies we referred to. I don’t have the data, whether it’s the $500 and up. But again, a core aspect of the thesis, people who want to manage service absolutely are going to run a business. And so they have aspirations to grow really rapidly. And it’s a great time as they are looking to set up their cloud infrastructure to ask them, do you want to do it yourself or do you want to manage experience, which by the way, is roughly 2x the price to go managed and they frequently will choose to manage. And so we see that as a compelling, essentially a product extension, really the entire DigitalOcean programs platform. So, we would expect it to skew higher ARPU over time and to drive our ARPU just reflecting Cloudways as roughly a quarter of their customers are $50 ad up versus the legacy deal was about 15%. So, it’s going to certainly improve the mix of builders and scalers on our platform.

Vinod Srinivasaraghavan

Analyst

Thanks and congrats again.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I will turn the call back over to Yancey for some closing remarks.

Yancey Spruill

Analyst

Thank you for joining us this morning. I hope it’s obvious. We are incredibly excited about the progress we have made in transforming our company DigitalOcean in to a durable high-growth business and a free cash flow machine in good times and in bad. We look forward to continuing the conversation in the coming weeks and months ahead as we work hard to realize this limited potential of our business. Have a great rest of the day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.