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Gladstone Commercial Corporation (GOOD)

Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 5, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to Gladstone Commercial Corporation Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce David Gladstone, Chief Executive Officer. Thank you, Mr. Gladstone. You may begin.

David Gladstone

Analyst

Well, thank you for that nice introduction, and we thank all of you for calling in today. We certainly enjoy the time we have with you on the phone and wish there were more time to talk with you. Now we hear from Michael LiCalsi. He's our General Counsel and Secretary to give us legal and regulatory matters concerning this call this morning. Michael?

Michael LiCalsi

Analyst

Thanks, David. Good morning, everybody. Today's report may include forward-looking statements under the Securities Act of 1933 and Securities Exchange Act of 1934, including those regarding our future performance. These forward-looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties that are based on our current plans, which we believe to be reasonable, and many factors may cause our actual results to be materially different from any future results expressed or implied by these forward-looking statements, including all the risk factors in our Forms 10-Q, 10-K, and other documents that we file with the SEC, and you can find these on our website and that's gladstonecommercial.com specifically go to the Investors page or on the SEC's website which is www.sec.gov. And we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any of these forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law. Today we will discuss FFO, which is funds from operations. FFO is a non-GAAP accounting term defined as net income excluding the gains or losses from the sale of real estate and any impairment losses on property, plus depreciation and amortization of real estate assets. We'll also discuss core FFO, which is generally FFO adjusted for certain other non-recurring revenues and expenses and we believe these metrics are a better indication of our operating results and allow better comparability of our period-over-period performance. We ask that you visit our website, which is gladstonecommercial.com and sign up for our email notification service. You'll also find us on Facebook, the keyword there is the Gladstone Companies and Twitter, which is @GladstoneComps. Now today's call is an overview of our results, so we ask that you review our press release and Form 10-Q, both issued yesterday for more detailed information. Now with that, I'll turn it over to Gladstone Commercial's President, Buzz Cooper.

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

Thank you, Michael, and thank you all for joining today's call. We have several key updates regarding our operations and the broader economic environment. First, I'd like to share our concern for all those impacted by the recent hurricanes that swept through communities in the Southeast. Our thoughts are with all those affected. As it relates to our portfolio, we fortunately sustained minimal impact. Our team has been proactive in reaching out, supporting tenants and responding promptly to any needs. Turning to the broader economic environment, the Fed in September implemented its first rate cut, marking a change in policy since rate hikes began in 2022. They lowered the benchmark federal funds rate by 50 basis points to a range of 4.75% to 5%, down from its prior range of 5.25% to 5.5%, which had been the highest level in 23 years. This marks a significant reversal after a prolonged period of high rates that negatively impacted capital markets. We expect additional cuts to follow, though the timing and magnitude of those cuts depends on economic indicators. September US job growth surged with employers adding 254,000 jobs significantly surpassing expectations, while unemployment rate also dipped to 4.1 from 4.2. While this is positive for the overall economy, the strength of the labor market and the higher-than-expected inflation in September may push out any further rate cuts. Continued momentum could create challenges in balancing inflation concerns with market expectations for lower interest rates. Today's election is likely to bring further volatility to the markets as fiscal and regulatory policies are debated. We believe our portfolio is well positioned regardless of which party is in office. Despite broader economic uncertainties, our portfolio continues to perform well with industrial real estate being a key growth driver. According to Colliers Industrial Market Statistics for…

Gary Gerson

Analyst

Thank you, Buzz. I'll start my remarks regarding our financial results this morning by reviewing our operating results for the third quarter of 2024. All per share numbers referenced are based on fully diluted weighted average common shares. FFO and core FFO per share available to common stockholders were both $0.38 per share for the quarter. FFO and core FFO available to common stockholders during the third quarter of 2023 were $0.33 per share and $0.34 per share, respectively. FFO and core FFO for the nine months ended September 30 were $1.07 per share and $1.08 per share, respectively. FFO and core FFO for the same period in 2023 were $1.10 per share and $1.11 per share, respectively. Same-store rents increased by 10.2% in the three months ended September 30 over the same period in 2023 due to a settlement received by one of our properties related to deferred maintenance. Our same-store rent in the first three quarters of 2024 increased by 1.4% over the same period in 2023 due to the previously mentioned 2024 settlement, partially offset by accelerated rent during the same period in 2023. Our third quarter results reflected total operating revenues of $39.2 million with operating expenses of $28.5 million as compared to operating revenues of $36.5 million and operating expenses of $29.6 million for the same period in 2023. Expenses were higher in 2023 mainly due to a larger impairment charges offset by the waiver of the incentive fee in 2023. Looking at our debt profile, 38% is fixed rate, 53% is hedged floating rate and 9% is floating rate, which is the amount drawn on our revolving credit facility and one mortgage note. As of September 30, our effective average SOFR was 4.96%. Our outstanding bank term loans are hedged with $310 million of…

David Gladstone

Analyst

Thank you. That was a good report, Gary, and one from Buzz and Michael were both good reports. The team has performed extremely well. Overall, it was a very nice quarter. You've heard a lot today. During the third quarter, we acquired one industrial facility in Midland, Texas for about $10 million. We sold two non-core properties. These were medical offices in Georgia. We also renewed at least five of our properties. So this company has just continued to move along at a great pace. The commercial team is growing the real estate we own at a really good pace and the team is doing a great job managing the properties we own, especially during these times that I'm not sure what's going on sometimes, but they're challenging and they're managing through it. Our team is strong professional group and they continue to pursue potential quality properties on the list of acquisitions they are reviewing and our acquisition team is seeking strong credit tenants. That's what we're looking for. Okay. We'll stop here and take some questions from people on the phone.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Gaurav Mehta with Alliance Global Partners. Please proceed.

Gaurav Mehta

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning. I wanted to ask you on your 3Q results. You talked about a settlement at one of your properties. Can you provide some color how much that settlement revenue was?

Gary Gerson

Analyst

The total amount was $2 million.

Gaurav Mehta

Analyst

Okay. Second question. I think in your remarks you said that three properties held for sale. Any color on the timing expected timing of the sale of those three properties?

Gary Gerson

Analyst

One of them we're looking to sell by the end of the year and the other one probably mid-next year.

Gaurav Mehta

Analyst

Okay. And lastly, maybe big picture, can you provide some color on what you were seeing in the acquisition market?

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

Acquisitions are right now, toward the end of the year, we've seen quite a few and we're proceeding underwriting. Currently, two. We expect to pick up into the first quarter of '25. As you know, Gaurav, there's lots of competition for such, but we are seeing our fair share of actionable deals.

Gaurav Mehta

Analyst

Okay, thank you. That's all I had.

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

Thank you.

David Gladstone

Analyst

Thank you. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Dave Storms with Stonegate. Please proceed.

Dave Storms

Analyst

Good morning.

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

Good morning.

Dave Storms

Analyst

Just wanted to start by touching on the one new property you mentioned you have under contract. Is there any more you can give us maybe around the sense of timing or the anticipated cap rate for this?

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

On the closing, it should occur here in the fourth quarter, early fourth quarter on a straight-line basis, the cap rate over term is going to be over 9%.

Dave Storms

Analyst

Okay. So also high single-digits. Just curious, maybe your overall thoughts around the cap rates in the markets right now and maybe where you see them going?

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

We are hopeful, of course, with interest rates coming down will affect cap rates for us. Again, a very competitive market. The sellers, I think, have gotten a little bit of understanding as to where the market is today. We're seeing competition, but cap rates seem to be coming down a bit.

Dave Storms

Analyst

Understood. And then just one more for me. It looks like a couple of tenants dropped off quarter-over-quarter. Is that just the regular runnings of the business, the selling of the couple offices in Georgia or is there more to the story there?

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

No, that would be sales.

Dave Storms

Analyst

Understood. Thank you for taking my questions and good luck on the fourth quarter.

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

Thanks, Dave.

David Gladstone

Analyst

Thank you. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Barry Oxford with Colliers. Please proceed.

Barry Oxford

Analyst

Great. Thanks, guys. To build on the cap rate question, you guys have been selling industrial -- buying industrial and selling office. What do you see kind of going forward as you implement that plan as far as the cap rate spread between the two? Because it seems like you would probably be losing a little bit on the cap rate spread?

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

Barry, I would agree with you because of the competition within the market.

Barry Oxford

Analyst

Right.

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

However, that being said, we also with obviously the way our stock has performed, looking to bring down our cost of capital. So we've had some success there as we recycle out of the office into industrial. So we are making ourselves more competitive as we are proceeding.

Barry Oxford

Analyst

Great. That you touched on your stock price, that leads me to my second question. Are you guys going to continue over the next few quarters to have sort of an elevated, tapping the ATM at an elevated level or not necessarily?

Gary Gerson

Analyst

No, Barry, we'll probably continue to tap the ATM for just to fund acquisitions and to maintain leverage level and maybe to reduce leverage. We did a specifically large amount over the last quarter. Our leverage level had kind of tipped up during all the dispositions over the last year. So I think it was an unusual amount for us. But we will continue to sell under the ATM again to finance acquisitions and to keep our leverage level and potentially lower it.

Barry Oxford

Analyst

Great. All that makes sense. Thanks guys.

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

Thank you.

David Gladstone

Analyst

Next question.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from John Massocca with B. Riley Securities. Please proceed.

John Massocca

Analyst

Good morning, everyone.

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

Good morning.

Gary Gerson

Analyst

Good morning.

John Massocca

Analyst

So it looks like kind of CapEx and leasing commissions jumped up a little bit quarter-over-quarter. Was there something specific driving that? And maybe what's kind of a Rule of Thumb on expectations for those two kind of cash flow line items for the remainder of the year and into '25?

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

John, specific, as you know, we had a large asset in Lehigh Valley that was fully tenanted. We re-tenanted with a new tenant at almost double income on the rent side. But that carried with it obviously a large lease commission as well as modest TI dollars going into that property. And so that was part of that tick-up, but we do not have any foreseen large CapEx items coming forward, but we do know obviously that, that is good accretive money being put out the door as it relates to the tenancy. So some of that CapEx is very quote-unquote profitable for us.

John Massocca

Analyst

Okay. And then just to clarify, I think you may have mentioned it in the prepared remarks, but did you address the one remaining 2024 lease expiration and maybe what's kind of the outlook for some of the leases expiring in '25?

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

So relative to that transaction, we have agreement with a new tenant, which will take that property that does mature here in November with an option to buy. We've written a 10-year, sorry, 7-year lease on that. But they have an option to exercise to purchase in the beginning of '25. Our expectation is that they will purchase. And relative to 2025, we have four properties that do have maturities in '25, of which, one is under sale to close in the first quarter of '25. Other one has a 5-year lease out for signature. One is current tenant, we are discussing re-upping and then another one is also in discussion, very preliminary. It has a nine-month lead to it as relates to notice that we'll begin discussions and we're very close with that tenant in the first quarter of '25. So I think we do stay in front of our tenants and try to get to discussions with them in renewals as early as possible.

John Massocca

Analyst

And then just broad strokes in terms of the lease expirations over the next, call it, 15 months, are those kind of mostly office? Is that industrial? I mean, what's kind of the broad mix? I don't need an exact number.

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

Yes. No, I would say it's a mix between the two, more office than industrial, and some of those will be taken care of by dispositions.

John Massocca

Analyst

Yeah. And then lastly, the competitive environment, are you seeing maybe with interest rates having particularly on the short end of the curve tick down more competition from some of the buyers that were out there pre-2022, smaller PE funds, more finance-oriented buyers or they still been kind of cautious getting back into the market?

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

I believe somewhat cautious. We have seen, as you mentioned, the smaller PE shops, we have seen opportunities there for sale leasebacks that we've seen out there. Brokers are giving opinion of value. So we are seeing more as it relates to opportunities there. But certainly, our marketplace is competitive.

John Massocca

Analyst

Okay. I appreciate the color. That's it for me.

Buzz Cooper

Analyst

Thank you.

David Gladstone

Analyst

Thanks for the questions.

Operator

Operator

There are no more further questions. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for closing remarks.

David Gladstone

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much all of you. Hope you've all gone out and voted, but only voted for people that are pro-industrial real estate. So thank you all for calling in. That's the end of this. We'll catch you next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect at this time and thank you for your participation.