Ari Bousbib
Analyst · Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel
Yes. Just to put things aside here, the competitor you mentioned that you call it the competitor, but I just want to say, we never meet in any big defenses with this competitor. So we're not planning -- it's sort of a different business as the numbers show. But moving to your question on R&DS, we -- the environment, I said, remains unsettled in terms of the administration policies and the level of uncertainty that's out there. But whereas in prior periods, we saw clients sort of on hold. We noted that clients essentially not necessarily returning to business as usual, but getting on with their programs. If you have in front of you a Phase III program that's very important for the company, and that is going to last 4 years, it's important to be in market ASAP if you have good data and good results and good promise for the program. And you can't really afford to wait another 6 months. So at some point in time, you got to get on with life. So to that degree, I would say, the environment possibly has improved slightly and we see some of those green shoots in the demand metrics. it has remained the same with respect to the administration policies and the uncertainty around exactly what may or may not happen. And that time window is relatively short, limited and narrowing. And therefore, I guess, the client base is moving on to a degree. And in that sense, the environment is improving. And then separately, we -- to use your expression, which I think is a good one, we leaned on or lean in to the market a little bit more forcefully than usual. We call this, See More, Win More, that's we're expanding our net, we are responding to more RFPs, generating more flow of opportunities, and we are going to win and our win rate has increased. And I think all of that is essentially what's led to the good results we've had this quarter better than what we would have expected. And by the way, this is across segments, large, mid and EBP. But I would note that the EBP segment was particularly strong.