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Klaviyo, Inc. (KVYO)

Q4 2024 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 19, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to Klaviyo's Fourth Quarter and Full Year Fiscal 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Andrew Zilli, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Andrew Zilli

Analyst

Thanks. Good afternoon and thanks for joining Klaviyo's fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings call. Our earnings press release, SEC filings and a replay of today's call can be found on our IR website at investors.klaviyo.com. With me today on the call are Andrew Bialecki, Co-Founder and CEO; and Amanda Whalen, CFO. As a reminder, our commentary today will include non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in today's earnings press release or earnings release supplemental materials, which can be found on our Investor Relations website. Additionally, some of our comments today contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions, which could change. Should any of these risks materialize or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual company results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. A description of these risks, uncertainties and assumptions and other factors that could affect our financial results are included in our SEC filings, including our most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K filed today. We do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements, except as required by law. With that, I'll now turn it over to Andrew.

Andrew Bialecki

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Thanks, Zilli, and thanks everyone for joining us today. At Klaviyo, we empower more than 167,000 brands around the world to leverage their data to build personalized, lasting and valuable consumer relationships across multiple channels. Our 2024 financial performance is a clear indication of our importance in driving revenue for our customers. We had a very strong finish to the year with 270 million in Q4 revenue, up 34% year-over-year, costing a $1 billion revenue run rate as we delivered our strongest Black Friday/Cyber Monday yet. For the full year, we grew our revenue by 34% to $937 million while driving nearly $150 million in free cash flow. I want to thank our partners and Klaviyos around the world for supporting our customers throughout the year, and thanks to all of our customers for choosing Klaviyo to help grow your business. Before sharing highlights from the year, I want to touch on three defining themes for Klaviyo. First, we are a growth company and we are executing well on our strategy to deliver sustainable, efficient, long-term growth by moving upmarket, expanding internationally, adding more customers and growing with our existing customers. Second, our approach to data with the powerful Klaviyo data platform is a core differentiator and the backbone of our vertically integrated omni-channel platform that positions Klaviyo as a single source of truth for customers. And third, consumer expectations are shifting, and our data-first approach puts Klaviyo in an exceptional position to redefine the next era of consumer engagement. Now turning to 2024 highlights. We continue to innovate and expand the capabilities of our platform, and our pace of innovation is a key driver of why companies continue to choose Klaviyo. Across the company, our teams delivered more than 200 new features to help make our customers more successful…

Amanda Whalen

Analyst · Canaccord

Thanks, Andrew. Klaviyo delivered another quarter of strong financial performance in Q4 to close out a great year as we continue to deliver efficient growth at scale. In the fourth quarter, revenue grew 34% year-over-year to $270 million. Non-GAAP operating margin was 6%, and free cash flow was $54 million, up 57% year-over-year. For the full year, we delivered revenue of $937 million, up 34% year-over-year, with a non-GAAP operating margin of 12%, delivering well above the Rule of 40. We are very proud of these results as we continue to deliver both growth and profitability at scale. Andrew discussed several key themes earlier, and these results are evidence that our data-first approach is resonating, and we are executing well on our growth strategy. We are adding new customers, growing in the mid-market, expanding with existing customers and expanding internationally. In Q4, we added over 10,000 new customers, and we now have more than 167,000 customers, up 17% year-over-year. We continued to see strength in the low and high end of the market. And notably, we started to see some stabilization in the SMB space as the number of new SMB customers improved quarter-over-quarter. We acknowledge that this may be partially driven by the heightened demand during the holiday season, but it is an encouraging sign nonetheless. Our Q4 revenue came in stronger than expected driven by the continued high value our customers realized from our platform during the holiday shopping season. The pricing changes we made back in April related to prorated billing also benefited revenue in the mid-single digit millions of dollars, though a majority of that was included in our guidance. Our investments to move upmarket continued to show success as we ended Q4 with 2,850 customers, generating over $50,000 in ARR, up 46% year-over-year. We had…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. We'll take our first question from Gabriela Borges at Goldman Sachs.

Gabriela Borges

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. AB and Amanda, I wanted to kick at a little bit more color on your mid-market pipeline. And thinking about the call that you've pretty consistently provided over the last year about the opportunity you see there, could you give us maybe a little more qualification – how is the mid-market pipeline growing? And when I look at your own data on customers greater than $50,000, that number has obviously been growing really nicely for a while. So how sustainable do you think the growth in that cohort is? And any other qualitative or quantitative commentary you're willing to provide would be helpful?

Andrew Bialecki

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Great. Thanks, Gabriela. Yes, happy to talk about that. First off, we're very happy with both the results in terms of customer adds and revenue as well as the pipeline and forward-looking demand that we're building in the mid-market segment, and now increasingly, also starting to give that enterprise segment as well. The value prop that we have for our mid-market and enterprise customers is very clear. We provide a data platform that allows them to pull all of their customer data in one place. It connects with all of their systems and allows them to put that data to work in our marketing platform and other applications that they're using to deliver the customer experience. And the fact that there's more complexity actually plays to our advantage. We can handle the scale, their security requirements. But we also have the flexibility through our API-first design to support a lot of the use cases that those larger businesses have. So we're very excited about, like the growth that we've seen, businesses like Clarks, Grunt Style, Reebok, Champion and others, all joined us in Q4. Like you commented on, we're very excited about the growth we've seen in a number of customers in that 50,000 cohort. And then one other thing that we're really excited about, we're seeing more of our mid-market customers adopt more of the Klaviyo product suite. So our average revenue per customer in Q4 was up 15% year-over-year, which is another very strong indicator to us that there's good product market depth. So that's something we're going to be investing in this year, always with an eye towards strong unit economics. And we think that's a very durable growth driver in 2025 and the next few years.

Operator

Operator

We'll move next to Terry Tillman at Truist.

Terry Tillman

Analyst

Yes, hi, AB, Amanda, thanks for taking my question. It might be a multi-parter, so just beware. About the upmarket opportunity here, what I'm curious about is as Steve and the teams are kind of building out the infrastructure, I'm curious about like how much you're able to leverage PLG and kind of word-of-mouth as opposed to having to be heavy outbound? And the second part is, like how ramped is the sales team? And is there any kind of natural ceiling right now upmarket in terms of the size of the customer?

Andrew Bialecki

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Sure. Thanks, Terry. So first, on the PLG motion, that's -- it's very -- it's how we build products. So while we find that a lot of our mid-market enterprise customers, they still want -- they have a conversation with us before actually buying. The fact -- the way that we designed Klaviyo that it's so easy to pull data in, ingest it, it's easy to start to build out use cases, it actually makes that evaluation process a lot faster and a lot smoother. So that in that sense, that PLG motion for us is lowering the cost of acquisition. And certainly, as we build out more social proof, more brands, we're also finding that there's a lot of mid-market enterprise businesses that are starting maybe with one brand and then spreading Klaviyo across their entire portfolio. And then on the ramp on the sales team, this is something that we've been very thoughtful about. We've built up the demand in mid-market and now in enterprise. And we've grown the sales team actually a little bit behind that demand to make sure that we're matching the demand with sales capacity. So we did start to build sales capacity, especially in the U.S., in 2024 for the mid-market segment. And we're pleased with how that's going. And we mentioned, we've also had some strong growth internationally. We're seeing actually increased demand in the mid-market and enterprise internationally, especially in Europe. And that's a place that we're also planning to expand and grow sales capacity this year because now that we've internationalized the product and we've done some of the front marketing, we think that's another area where we can grow the mid-market business.

Amanda Whalen

Analyst · Canaccord

And Terry, just building a little bit on what AB said, as you look to 2025, we've made good progress with the sales team that we hired in 2024. And therefore, we're going to continue to invest behind growing that quota-carrying capacity, so hiring sales teams who have a track record of strong success with mid-market and enterprise customers, investing in training behind them and really evolving the way that we sell and continuing to expand our partnering business from there as well. And then to the last part of your question about what is the size of those customers, what is that looking like, consistent with what we've spoken about before, these customers can be quite large. In the top 10, the average of our top 10 customers is north of $1.5 million of ARR, so certainly growing into some very significant relationships with these larger brands.

Operator

Operator

We'll go next to DJ Hynes at Canaccord.

Q - DJ Hynes

Analyst · Canaccord

Hi guys, congrats on a nice quarter. AB, I was wondering if you could update us on ARR overlap with the Shopify ecosystem, how that partnership is progressing from a lead flow perspective. And then you mentioned WooCommerce, but I'm curious if there are any other B2C ecosystem opportunities that seem promising as you guys kind of continue to diversify away from Shopify?

Andrew Bialecki

Analyst · Canaccord

Yes. Sure. Okay. So let me take that in three parts. The first, Shopify. We've had a great experience working with Shopify. We really love working with the Shopify team. That obviously started with our product and the integration there. We've done a lot of work on that in the last year to make data flowing back and forth between folks that run on Klaviyo and Shopify easier. And as Shopify has converted more businesses to their platform, we found that those customers are also coming to Klaviyo. And interestingly, we actually have a number of brands that have chosen to move to Klaviyo first and then it followed on by moving their e-commerce stack to Shopify. So our relationship there is very strong. I was going to give a model for how we should work with other technology and software platforms. So with WooCommerce, I think that offers a slightly different profile of customer. The WooCommerce customer base is over 4 million merchants using WooCommerce. It's more international. It's also the use cases are a little bit more varied. It's a little bit -- you can customize -- because WooCommerce is open source, you can customize the WooCommerce platform more easily. So there's -- that actually helps us spread outside of, say, pure-play e-commerce. And then finally, when it comes to new verticals and alternative use cases, we added a number of new integrations in 2024, but again are modeled off of our partnerships with Shopify and others, integrations with Zenoti, Olo, OpenTable, Toast. And these are all meant to help Klaviyo -- we really have -- we've got good product market fit with other use cases, connecting to those other services. I mean, one it helps us on the go-to-market side. From a product perspective, it means that now that transaction data, say, for that restaurant or that yoga studio, it's actually -- it's easy for them to think their data to Klaviyo. And we're finding is good growth there. So it's -- we think we've got a couple of features for folks that have non-e-commerce use cases that we'll be releasing this year that we're excited about. We think we're going to grow organically with new verticals. It's not one of our top growth levers, but we're excited about the progress that we're making.

Amanda Whalen

Analyst · Canaccord

Just building a little bit on what AB was talking about, about the progress that we're making with Shopify and how we co-sell with them. We've been working on unifying our messaging, our account mapping, our enablement. And some of the evidence that, that is working and that we are going to market together, many of the large enterprise customers who Shopify has been speaking about are also strong Klaviyo customers as well. That's brands like Reebok and Champion and BarkBox. And so we're really excited to partner with them as we each continue to move into the mid-market and enterprise and beyond.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Rob Oliver at Baird.

Rob Oliver

Analyst · Baird

Great, good afternoon. Thanks, guys. On international and AB you touched on this a little bit in response to DJ's question. But I'd be curious to get an update from you guys on what you've seen on the ground in some of the geographies, such as France and others, that you've enabled in the back half of '24. And then if you could just take a moment to update us on what the road map is in terms of additional either geos or languages for '25 and how the Woo relationship may have either accelerated or changed that in any way? Thank you.

Andrew Bialecki

Analyst · Baird

Sure. So 2024 was a great year for international. Our full year international revenue grew 42% and we're very happy with that. And kind of like you alluded to, we've tried to lay a lot of the foundation for growth internationally over the next couple of years. We expanded Klaviyo from being in one language, English, to now 7. We also took SMS, a product where we have to work with local regulators and telcos. We've expanded that now to 19 countries. And that actually gives us an enormous amount of coverage of the European market and growing parts of Asia. So built on top of that, we're now -- we're focused on building out teams that are localized to those countries. Germany, France, Spain, Italy are all places where we're going to hire local language-speaking sales and support to help us support growth there. We're also working on partnerships that are more regionally oriented. So folks like PrestaShop, Think Digital, Oz and others are helping us expand our partner-led motion outside of the U.S. So you add all that up, I think we don't feel that we need to introduce more languages or increase our coverage of SMS dramatically this year to support accelerated growth international. Now we'll continue to evaluate those as we see opportunities. But I think we've done a lot of the heavy lifting on the product side in 2024, which is going to help support accelerated growth or large growth in 2025.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Elizabeth Porter at Morgan Stanley.

Elizabeth Porter

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Great. Thank you so much for questions. I wanted to touch on the NRR, where you mentioned seeing some stabilization in the in-quarter metric. And I understand it's just too early to call a bottom. Would love to better understand just the behavior that you're seeing. Sounds like gross retention has been strong for a while. So any sort of incremental clarity on where you're seeing the improvements, either cross-sell or expansion? And then when we should think about the point in time that we start to lap some easier compares? Thank you.

Amanda Whalen

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thanks, Elizabeth. Yes, as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, we did see stabilization in the in-period NRR from Q3 to Q4 which is encouraging. Now we're not ready to draw too many conclusions from two data points at this point. But as I said, we're cautiously optimistic as we look forward to 2025. Breaking down NRR into its individual components. As you said, gross retention remains consistent and strong. Once customers are on the Klaviyo platform and they see the value and the ROI and the revenue that we are driving for their business, the platform is incredibly sticky. On stabilization, we -- or sorry, on expansion we are seeing some stabilization in the expansion trends. And then we're continuing to make good progress on cross-sell efforts. And you can see that in that progress in the growth in the number of customers that we have who are using SMS. And then also as a reminder, this is the first full quarter that we've had without any impact from the 2022 pricing changes that have impacted NRR for the last couple of years. And so certainly lapping that contributes to the stabilization as well. But overall, we're confident that as we continue to add tremendous value to companies and we continue to expand our product portfolio, customers are going to continue to expand their business in turn with us. And so our focus remains on delivering value for our customers, making it easier for them to put Klaviyo to work in driving revenue and building those lasting consumer relationships.

Elizabeth Porter

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Arjun Bhatia at William Blair.

Arjun Bhatia

Analyst · William Blair

Thank you and congrats there on the nice fourth quarter. Maybe if I can come back to you, just on the product side, you talked quite a bit about where the platform might expand to next. You clearly have kind of the foundational data layer built out and you've built on top of it, obviously, with marketing. But as you're thinking of product evolution, what are you prioritizing? And is that something that we should expect this year or is that kind of the longer-term more kind of ambitious product road map that you've laid out?

Amanda Whalen

Analyst · William Blair

Yes. That's great. So let me touch on three things that we're focused on when it comes to our products. The first is embedding artificial intelligence across the different layers of the Klaviyo stack. Now we've talked about the data platform that Klaviyo is built on and this being the central source of truth for all your consumer data, pulling that in from all different source and then making that data actionable. We've done a great job of building artificial intelligence there in terms of predictive capabilities about what each consumer is going to do next. You think about this as product recommendations, predicting next action. And we're now extending that to other parts to Klaviyo platform, including like what kind of marketing campaigns should you run next, not just on an individual basis but also in aggregate. So what we're doing with AI is we think we can embed it across our data platform as well as inside of our marketing application and other products. And that's going to be -- that's really going to help our customers accelerate their revenue growth with Klaviyo, what we call KAV. And that's going to provide a lot of additional value, which in the future we can look to monetize. So that's number one for us. Number two is doubling down on being the source of truth for our customers. We've built out a lot of scale in our data platform. We're increasing the number connectors. We mentioned some of the other integrations, the other data sets that we're incorporating. We're also building more tooling to allow people to manipulate and use that data outside of Klaviyo. I'm very excited about this. I think every consumer business is going to need a data platform that is their real-time source of truth on…

Operator

Operator

We'll move next to Brent Bracelin at Piper Sandler.

Q - Brent Bracelin

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon. Amanda, wanted to double-click into the customer logo growth. It accelerated to 17% for the first time in a couple of years. Could you walk through the puts and takes on customer growth expectations in the coming year? I think, Amanda, you talked about new simplified pricing potentially driving some churn. On the other hand, you have this new WooCommerce partnership in international going strong that could possibly offset that. So are we thinking about mid-teens logo growth? Or could simplified pricing be a bigger impact on the entrepreneur part of the business, and we should be thinking closer to low teens growth for customers? Any color there would be helpful? Thanks.

Amanda Whalen

Analyst · Canaccord

Thanks, Brent. Yes, we're very proud that we added over 10,000 net new customers in Q4. And what we saw in Q4 was strength across all of our customer cohorts. So now as you recall, the largest number of our customer adds tends to come from our entrepreneur customers. And in that group, we saw strong results coming from our marketing team's efforts to really target those and bring them into the Klaviyo family. On the high end, we had a near-record high number of new lands in our greater than 50,000 cohort. And then also in the middle, as we mentioned on the call, we also saw a strong quarter-on-quarter growth in SMB net adds as well. The key driver for it is that we continue to drive great value for our customers. And so as a result, the Klaviyo platform is really being seen as the standard for B2C businesses. Now customer adds is not necessarily a number that we guide to specifically. But maybe as you think about some of the puts and takes for the year and how the linearity might play out in Q1, based on the seasonality of the business, we typically see lighter Q1 customer adds in general. And then additionally, as I mentioned in my remarks, we are expecting a modest increase in churn as a result of the new pricing enforcement. And so that may impact our total customer count in Q1. But over time, we continue to see adding new customers as a key lever for our growth, along with expanding existing customers growing in the mid-market and growing internationally.

Operator

Operator

We'll go next to Raimo Lenschow at Barclays.

Q - Raimo Lenschow

Analyst · Barclays

Perfect. Thank you. Congrats from me as well. First question on -- going back to WooCommerce. If you think about it, like the strategy was a little bit moving upmarket over last few quarters. WooCommerce looks -- is more like downmarket, in my view. Like how do we have to think about it? Is this is like a new path now? Is that just broadening of the strategy? How should we think about it? And then I have one follow up for Amanda?

Andrew Bialecki

Analyst · Barclays

Sure. So let me comment on that. The reality is we've already -- we had a preexisting partnership with the WooCommerce team. We already have over 15,000 brands that are using Klaviyo and WooCommerce together. And we think there's an opportunity for that to be much larger. So I think we're being very -- we're opportunistic here where we've got good product market fit, and I think we've worked with the Woo team. I think we think there's -- our 2 products can work really well together. We can help those WooCommerce businesses be even more successful. And look, I think it's a little bit of a nod to what we've done -- what Klaviyo has done for e-commerce businesses worldwide both for entrepreneurs and in the enterprise. I think we're starting to reach a kind of default status. And so we're very -- I think this kind of proves that. And we ultimately think that we can serve folks from when they're just starting out to when they're scaling to be one of the iconic brands of our time. So yes, I think we can do both at the same time. We're very excited about this partnership.

Raimo Lenschow

Analyst · Barclays

Okay. Perfect. And then for Amanda, like can you talk a little bit about the new offer -- or the decision to offer at auto downgrade for customers? Can you provide some color on the Medtronic here and how that might impact Q4, Q1 numbers as well? Thank you.

Amanda Whalen

Analyst · Barclays

Thanks, Raimo. Yes, as we shared in the remarks, we made a few changes to pricing that were effective yesterday, including flexible spending for e-mail and SMS and an auto downgrade option. And what that auto downgrade option does is it checks whether a customer's profile count qualifies them for a lower plan. And if it does, then it moves them down automatically. Those were features that our customers had been requesting for a while. We are committed to removing friction in the process so that our customers have Klaviyo be as easy to buy as it is easy to use. And so adding those two new features was an important part of being responsive to customers and making sure that we're just removing that friction from the process for them. The other change that we made is recommitting to our pricing intent to enforce pricing based on active profiles because customers drive value from the data that they store with Klaviyo. And so pricing based on profiles and making sure that we're consistent in how we enforce on that is an important part of committing to that value that our customers are driving from Klaviyo. Now a couple of things to note on it. One is that I mentioned that the majority of customers are not expected to see a pricing change because of any of these changes because they're already on a plan that is appropriate for the number of profiles that they're storing with us. And then for those customers who do see a change, regardless of how many profiles they're storing with us, in the spirit of being customer-friendly, we're limiting price increases to a maximum of 25%. We did see a slight uptick in churn in January after this was announced. That was expected based on our experience with pricing pilots that we ran leading up to these changes. And so if you think about what is the impact for this for the full year, if you take into account all of these factors, the uplift from pricing enforcement, offset by a small amount of churn and then as well as some expansion impact that comes from the introduction of auto downgrades and flex pricing, overall, we are assuming a minimal overall revenue benefit for the year. But most importantly, what these changes do is they reduce friction for our customers. They anchor our pricing in the unique value that Klaviyo drives through data, and both of these changes tee us up well for the future.

Operator

Operator

We'll move next to Derrick Wood at TD Cowen.

Q - Derrick Wood

Analyst

Great, thanks and congrats on a great quarter. AB, it sounds like you've made great strides in expanding the number of countries you can deliver SMS in. Just how should we think about the revenue unlock? Is there a lot of pent-up demand? So quickly after you turn this on in new countries, you'll see some incremental revenue conversion? Or is this something that now you start a new sales cycle and start looking to cross-sell in these new countries and expect dividends to come down the pike over the next six to nine, 12 months? Just curious about the go-to-market now that you've expanded the countries.

Andrew Bialecki

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Sure. I think it's probably a mix of both. What we found actually as we've expanded SMS coverage, it's a number of predominantly European markets. We have done a lot of customers that were actually kind of waiting for Klaviyo to have support for the countries and regions they care about. And so I do think there's sort of an initial kind of uptick in SMS demand from customers from that. At the same time, sometimes folks have existing SMS programs and it takes them some time to migrate off. Maybe they're waiting for a contract to renew. So I do think there also will be a long-term benefit to this. And with SMS in our country strategy, what we focus on is -- take Europe as an example. As we grow internationally, we're finding a lot more of the businesses we're working with, they're cross-border, they're multi-region, multi-country businesses. And so having SMS support that spans a large percentage of their customer base, it's not 100% hot, is very high, makes a big difference. Because when folks want to invest in an SMS program, they typically want to do it in a way that is comprehensive. And I think the SMS coverage plus some of the other things that we're building for international customers, capabilities that make it easier to send campaigns and do marketing in multiple languages without a lot of extra work, work with product catalogs, inventory that's cross-border where pricing may be different, we've built a lot of that functionality directly into Klaviyo. I think you add that all up, and that's giving us the opportunity to both go after more businesses that they want to expand their SMS program, but also just want to use Klaviyo generally. And now we can help support them as they market globally, right, across the entire region or even around the world. So very excited about the opportunity that unlocks. That's one of the reasons that I called out in the mid-market enterprise, we're actually seeing an increased demand internationally because a lot of those businesses, I mean, they tend to be multi-country. And we think we've gotten -- we've really done some good work to get better product market fit for those customers.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Scott Berg at Needham.

Scott Berg

Analyst · Needham

Hi everyone. Thanks for taking my question very next quarter. I just wanted to follow up on the WooCommerce partnership on the press release on it and the commentary. Didn't hear anything along the lines of, I don't know, maybe any financial incentives or any sort of terms of, I guess, engagement, how you all are working together. Preferred partnership can mean a lot of things. But maybe help us understand what the commitment level of both companies are, whether it's on a financial basis or maybe it's something else, maybe from, I don't know, a technology perspective?

Amanda Whalen

Analyst · Needham

Yes. Thanks for the question, Scott. So in terms of the financial arrangements of the partnership, as you would expect, there's a revenue share component to it. We are disclosing the specific details to it, but it's typical for these types of agreements to come with a revenue share agreement. There is no equity associated with the partnership. So that's an important part to note there. In terms of overall, we're really excited to be named their preferred marketing automation provider. So now when brands join WooCommerce or for existing brands, we are their recommended partner, saying that Klaviyo is a company that we believe in who can help brands continue to grow and expand their customer base and build those ongoing strong relationships with their customers. We think that together, we can provide a better experience for our joint customers. And there are 4 million merchant brands who use WooCommerce around the globe, not only in retail, but as Andre w mentioned earlier, in services and in content. And so we're really excited about the opportunity that partnership opens up for local growth and then also for international and new vertical growth as well.

Operator

Operator

Next, we'll go to Mark Zgutowicz at Cantor Fitzgerald -- I apologize, with Benchmark.

Mark Zgutowicz

Analyst

Thank you. Maybe just a macro question, if I could. A lot of good fundamental questions have already been asked. Curious on the tariff front, kind of a fluid situation right now. I'm curious if you've anticipated any downstream impacts or have heard anything from any of your customers in terms of any disruption there? Thanks.

Amanda Whalen

Analyst · Canaccord

Thanks for the question. We are monitoring the geopolitical landscape as everyone is these days. But as of now, we don't expect the tariffs would impact us directly. As you spoke about downstream implications, some of our customers may be impacted. But if they are, we're confident that they're going to continue to use Klaviyo because what our platform does is we help them efficiently drive revenue and build lasting relationships with their consumers through all economic cycles.

Operator

Operator

We'll move next to Brett Knoblauch at Cantor Fitzgerald.

Brett Knoblauch

Analyst

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe to start, as you look at maybe the SMS adoption or increased adoption throughout the year going from 16 to 18.2, is that about what you would have expected going into the year? Did you overachieve, meet, underachieved expectations with regarding to that?

Andrew Bialecki

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Yes. I can take this. Look, we'd always like to grow that faster. I think probably the -- we're very happy with the adoption rate we've seen. One thing that we want to reiterate is, I think that aggregate metric is useful. But going forward, we're going to be disclosing the attach rate for SMS with our SMB customers and above. And that was 26% in Q4. And we feel that, that SMB is up rather than the segment that we call entrepreneurs as sort of the small-medium-sized businesses, it's actually more indicative of our success. What we found is that for a lot of business when they're just getting started, SMS isn't relevant right away or not for all of those businesses. So we want every business to connect with consumers over the channels that are relevant for that -- those consumers who are interested in that business wants to provide. What we found for a lot of the smallest businesses, as they're getting going, there's so much going on that until their SMS becomes entirely automated, it actually makes sense to just focus on the core channel, which typically ends up being e-mail. So we're happy with that. I think that percentage will continue to grow. We've done a lot of work. I mentioned some of the work we've done on SMS to expand internationally coverage. We're also doing a lot of work on the SMS product side, very proud of our team for all of the product features we released around SMS this year. And we've actually got a lot more coming even in the next few months to make our SMS product really best-in-class. And the last thing I'll say is, I think SMS as a channel is going to get more interesting over the next 12, 24 months as SMS gets upgraded to a new standard called RCS that actually allows for a lot richer type of experiences being delivered through text message through mobile messaging. And we're very excited about some of the work that we're doing to allow our customers to use that new technology and get in front of this. And we think that's going to have a positive impact on customer engagement, which should additionally help drive more adoption.

Amanda Whalen

Analyst · Canaccord

And just building a little bit on what AB said, one of the reasons that we're so upbeat about SMS is that we see the benefit it drives for our customers. So when an e-mail customer adds SMS, not only do they get the additional KAV, that Klaviyo Attributed Value and revenue from SMS, but they also see a direct uplift in their e-mail-specific KAV. So it shows that these two channels are better together. And in fact, Klaviyo customers who added SMS to their marketing strategy during Black Friday, Cyber Monday this year experienced a 20% increase in their e-commerce revenue year-on-year. And one of our favorite examples, a customer who came to us for SMS this past quarter is CorePower Yoga. They were a prior customer of ours, a nationwide yoga studio with over 200 locations. They're a great customer, and they expanded with us in SMS because they are facing challenges with as many of our customers experienced a broken tech stack. They were batching and blasting anyone who signed up for their marketing, which led to a high number of unsubscribes. And so we are now partnering together. And with Klaviyo, they're going to be able to leverage detailed customer data to make smarter spending decisions, which will reduce unsubscribes and help enhance their brand growth.

Operator

Operator

We'll go next to Michael Berg at Wells Fargo.

Michael Berg

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I'll ask a quick one here for Amanda. Just double-clicking on the pricing mechanism changes, have you worked through most of the installed base already by giving this monthly contracts and you announced it about a month or so ago? And just from a functional standpoint, how do you think about how that works from a how the customer finds out if they're in compliance versus not? And maybe just squeeze one more in there, longer term, philosophically, how do you think about pricing here given the competitive end market, but obviously a highly value-added product?

Amanda Whalen

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Sure. I'll start with the how does it wind its way through our customer base. So we announced this to our customer base a month ago to give everyone a heads-up that this change was coming. And then the pricing change and all of these changes went into effect yesterday. And so customers who are on monthly billing cycles, it will go into effect for each of them at the point where their monthly billing cycle renews. So that will happen over the course of the next month. As part of the announcement a month ago, we did let customers know here's where your profiles are today, here's the plan that you're on and how those two compare and what the implication for you personally would be based on the appropriate pricing tier for you to be on as well as the appreciation discount that we are giving, which limits any pricing change for an individual customer to no more than 25%. And then importantly, as AB said, part of what we're doing through this is also educating and working with our customers on what are the profiles who they want to keep in their database? Who are those engaged customers? How do they keep them appropriately engaged? And then if customers are becoming unengaged, what's the right way to manage their profile list? And we've put in place tools to make it easy for our customers to manage their profile list on an ongoing basis.

Andrew Bialecki

Analyst · Wells Fargo

And let me just add on the philosophy side. Look, we very much believe in building best-in-class premium products, but having a pricing model that's very approachable for our customers. So as we iterate on pricing is always with that in mind. We want to make our products easy to adopt, easy to use more of. And we try to align our pricing axis to whatever that value metric is for the specific products. So for both e-mail and SMS, we're -- I think we're making some very positive changes for our customers here better in response to a lot of the feedback that we've had from them over the last couple of months and even the last year or two.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our final question today from Nick Altmann at Scotiabank.

Nick Altmann

Analyst · Scotiabank

Awesome. Thank you so much. AB, you mentioned you held your first in-person Partner Advisory Council for strategizing around 2025. So I wanted to ask a follow-up there. But can you maybe just give us a sense as to how much of the business is being driven from the channel today, what the overarching message to partners is around 2025? And maybe just talk about the channel internationally and where that sort of fits into those expansion plans.

Andrew Bialecki

Analyst · Scotiabank

Yes. Sure. Look, our partners are what have made Klaviyo the success it is today. We have a couple of different types. On the technology side, we mentioned a bunch of software and technology platform that Klaviyo integrates with and partners with both on the product side and on the go-to-market side. We also have a vibrant ecosystem of developers that are building applications on top of the Klaviyo data platform to make it more useful to our customers. Aside -- next to our technology partners, we also have a lot of service partners, both marketing agencies and now as we move up into the mid-market enterprise, increasingly, we're expanding our relationships with system integrators and SIs. And all of these different types of -- we think about -- they really surround our customers to help make them successful and help amplify the value of our products. So as we've always had this approach of product-led and partner-led. So as we mentioned, we're growing internationally. A big part of our motion is as we get product market fit, we're also immediately look to the local partners both on the technology side and on the service side who know our customers can help tell us whether we're doing a good job, help introduce us and drive demand. And so we're very excited about that. We've made a lot of changes to our partner program in the last year to further incentivize and work better with our partner ecosystem. And this year, I'm very excited for both to expand the number of agency and SI releases we have as well as really double down on the developer community that's starting to build around Klaviyo. So I think that's going to help accelerate growth internationally. But frankly, in the U.S., it's just going to help all aspects of our business.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.