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Q1 2018 Earnings Call· Tue, May 8, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the LendingClub Corporation First Quarter 2018 Conference Call and Webcast. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Artem Nalivayko, Investor Relations Manager. Please go ahead.

Artem Nalivayko

Analyst

Thank you, and good afternoon. Welcome to LendingClub’s first quarter of 2018 earnings conference call. Joining me today to talk about our results and recent events are Scott Sanborn, CEO; and Tom Casey, CFO. Before we get started, I’d like to remind everyone that this conference call is being broadcast on the internet. We have provided a slide presentation to accompany our commentary and both the presentation and the call are available through the Investor Relations section of our website at ir.lendingclub.com. Also, our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are based on our current expectations, forecasts and assumptions and involve risks and uncertainties. These statements include, but are not limited to, our guidance for the second quarter and full-year 2018. Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause these results to differ materially are described in today’s press release, the related slide presentation on our Investor Relations website and our most recent Form 10-K and Form 10-Q filed with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions as of today and we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. Also, during this call, we will present and discuss both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. Further, all operating expenses that we will discuss exclude stock-based compensation, depreciation, impairment and amortization and expenses related to legacy, legal and regulatory matters. Adjusted EBITDA also excludes these items and the related tax impact. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures is included in today’s earnings press release and investor presentation. And now, I’d like to turn the call over to Scott.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, Artem, and good afternoon, everyone. We are pleased to report a solid start to 2018, performing well against our internal targets for both growth and profitability. As I’ve mentioned on past calls, we are proud of our mission to empower those who strive to achieve financial success. We continue to invest and innovate so that we can help more people meet their financial goals. By the end of Q1, we had enabled more than $35 billion in loans to over 2.4 million borrowers, helping them lower their cost of credit, and these are numbers that we are certainly proud of. A quick look at our financial highlights. In Q1, we delivered a $151.7 million in revenue, coming in above the midpoint of our guided range. We again saw our normal Q1 seasonality as loans were down modestly on a sequential basis, but up nearly 18% year-over-year. EBITDA of $15.3 million was well above our guided range and up materially over last year, driven by strong revenue growth, expanding revenue yield, and our ability to drive better operating leverage. As we mentioned last quarter, we’re going to continue to grow the top-line, while turning increased attention to driving operating margin in 2018 and beyond. So, we’re on track to deliver our full-year guidance. On the borrower side of the platform, all indicators are green. We have calibrated our marketing efforts to our credit model and our strategic initiatives are working to drive both current and future growth. During the quarter, we processed over 2.8 million applications, representing a 36% increase in activity over last year. We have been optimizing our existing marketing channels and expanding into new channels and partnerships to drive demand. Additionally, we’ve removed friction and improved the borrower experience with proprietary new features that allow…

Tom Casey

Analyst

Thanks, Scott. We finished the first quarter with healthy core operations and are well positioned for our 2018 growth plan. We’re also pleased to see some of our early cost management initiatives bear fruit this quarter as we aim to balance our growth plan with profitability. In the first quarter, we delivered revenue of $151.7 million, up 22% from a year-ago, compared to operating expense growth of 10%. Our contribution margin came in above 49%, once again at the high end of our 45% to 50% targeted range. And our adjusted EBITDA was $15.3 million, resulting in adjusted EBITDA margin of 10.1%. Now, before we go through the first quarter operating results in more detail, I’d like to spend a minute discussing the rising rate environment. I often get questions on how the model operates in rising rate environment and the impact it will have on borrowers, investors and LendingClub. Borrowers are starting to see the increased cost of credit as most credit card debt is indexed to prime, which has moved up 75 basis points from a year ago. We see this as an opportunity to further penetrate the credit card market with a compelling personal loan product that can offset the impact of higher rates and save borrowers’ money. The 36% year-over-year growth in application volumes we observed in Q1 is a strong indication that consumers are taking action. We’re also seeing investor yield expectations increase as interest rates have risen. We closely monitor the competitive environment and make changes to our rates as the market warrants. We have observed a number of lenders increase rates to borrowers and today we have increased pricing by 10 to 45 basis points in our A, B and C grades, which are funded primarily by our bank partners. And for the…

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

Thanks, Tom. Let me close by saying that we are pleased with our position as we start 2018. Last year was a time of rebuilding and transforming LendingClub. We ended 2017 delivering two of the highest revenue quarters in the Company’s history. And we continue to hit milestones quarterly, most recently $35 billion in originations, which further cement our lead as the consumer lender of choice and the number one provider of unsecured personal loans in the country. And, we continue to innovate on our product and experience on both sides of our platform to drive future growth. Our core business is solid and we are confident that our marketplace model will absorb the changing environment and the short-term effects of addressing the legacy issues, which we are working to bring to resolution. Throughout 2018, our business will grow and we’ll focus on operational efficiencies to drive our profitability while simultaneously investing in the future of this Company. 10 years ago, we transformed the lending industry with the whole new way to help Americans pay down their debt. Today, we are closing the credit gap in America by lending in areas where banks are pulling back and closing, offering better and more competitive prices, and we’re increasing financial inclusion. Every day, we’re invigorated by our mission to help strivers achieve financial success. And with that, I’d like to open it up for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And first question will come from James Faucette with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

James Faucette

Analyst

Thank you very much. I just had a couple of quick questions. First, with the strong EBITDA performance that we saw in the first quarter, I am curious why you’re not moving the range for the entire year. Are you expecting some reversion or increased spending in other areas, maybe that you hadn’t planned on, so that’s why we’re seeing that, so just little color there? And my second question is, I know you don’t want to comment on the FTC case, directly, but can you talk about like how that may impact your operations through the year, and any impact we should expect either on originations or expected outside of those that you’re already separating out as part of your adjusted results and reporting?

Tom Casey

Analyst

So, maybe I’ll do the EBITDA and pass on the FTC to you. So, James, we feel very good about the start we had for the year. As we came out of fourth quarter, we had a number of initiatives in place, a lot of those are performing quite well. And as you know, 1Q is typically a seasonally slower quarter. So, we feel very good about where we are. To start talking about increasing guidance at this point, I think it’s premature. I think, we feel good about our guidance for the year. Obviously, we’ll continue to push hard for our growth and profitability, but it’s too early to increase any guidance at this point. We have a lot of things we have in place, we feel good about it, but the interest rate environment is shifting, credits normalizing and we need to continue to be focused on managing and balancing that as we go through the rest of the year.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

So, the question on the FTC, James, I think it’s hard to really kind of point to any specifics. I mean, overall, what I would say is, we can’t really indicate or speculate on any kind of changes that would be required of the business operation. As I think we made pretty clear in our public response, we believe our practices are currently in compliance, so. And I think, one thing and maybe I’m not sure if that’s what you’re getting at, but one thing to call out is what’s been the short term impact in terms of reactions from our investors. Let’s say, overall, we’ve been pleased by the feedback from investors, so nothing to really report there. By that I mean loan investors.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Brad Berning with Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

Brad Berning

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

One accounting related follow-up detail, and I just want to make sure to understand the fair value adjustments. The $12.5 million that you’ve got in the supplemental, is that rates related or is that a combination of credit and rates, in which you talked about the adjustment there? Just seeing that you hit your revenue guidance despite that, so just wondering what that detail would be helpful.

Tom Casey

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

Yes. Keep in mind that the way this works is that as we hold assets on the balance sheet to package them up in the structure either securitization or a CLUB Certificate, we earn interest income. The short duration of these products have them amortizing rather quickly. And so what you’re seeing there is any change in the underlying value could be changes in interest rates, could be changes in expectations of yield, it can be credit. All those things come into account on what you ultimately sell it for. And so that’s what you’re seeing is why you’re seeing the offset against the interest income. So, I point you to both of those lines. That’s why we kind of see a lot of lot pieces, that’s why we give you this simple chart to show that for the quarter the revenue was impacted by about $2.7 million. And we try to give you the breakout on that page 16 to show you how it impacts the individual line items.

Brad Berning

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

Understood. And then on the apps, you talked about the growth being up quite a bit this year year-over-year despite that the marketing dollars weren’t up as much. Can you talk about what you’re seeing as far as increased execution on your part from the new marketing efforts versus what do you think is the backdrop of consumer seeing their credit card yields rising on their stuff? And what is the backdrop from a consumer standpoint and can you decipher those two?

Tom Casey

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

It’s hard to distinguish exactly. We know that consumers are feeling the increase in rates. Their amounts are repriced, a lot of them repriced prime. And that occasionally does stimulate customers to realize that there may be another way to pay down their debt and consolidate their debt. We provide a terrific opportunity to do that and we’re seeing continued strong growth in the applications where consumers are coming online, having a good experience and saving money. And we think that trend continues. It’s hard to distinguish exactly. But, I think the key for us is that we’re making it easier for consumers. A lot of the efforts we had to generate demand are working, throughput through our funnel is also working and we’re quite encouraged with some of the early performance we’re seeing.

Brad Berning

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

Lastly really quickly, can you expand on the new credit model and where you’re seeing it’s improved well for you? Where have you seen that the adjustments that you’re making? Can you kind of expand that discussion a little bit? You hinted on the call and the prepared remarks, but maybe you can go little deeper.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst · Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

Yes. I mean, -- hey, Brad, this is Scott. I would say, overall, one, it obviously remains very early to try and to get a complete read. But, I think, the things we would indicate are we are very pleased with the profiles of the people we are bringing on the platform, we are seeing increases in the overall kind of financial health, if you will, of the loans that we are booking with the implementation of the new model. We’re also seeing on a portfolio level good indicators in terms of total portfolio delinquencies. So that’s positive. We do expect that we’ll have opportunity for some repricing within the portfolio as we learn more through the course of time.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Henry Coffey with Wedbush. Please go ahead.

Henry Coffey

Analyst · Wedbush. Please go ahead.

I don’t want to spend too much time on the FTC situation, and I know you really can’t say much. But, we’ve gone through this in both the student loan industry and we watched the same thing go on in the mortgage industry for years. And it seems that most of these complaints are based on legacy issues. They come in -- they look at something that happened two or three years ago, which in your case is a prior management team and then ask you to fess up. I did go to your blog that was very helpful. You obviously are very conscious of how to do the business today. And if you can’t respond to this question, I get it. But, is this inquiry all about the past or is it about the present?

Scott Sanborn

Analyst · Wedbush. Please go ahead.

Well, what I would say is it sounds like you saw on the blog post is the majority of the items identified in the complaint are pointing to issues that were self identified by the company as opportunities for improvement and self-mediated prior to any contact with the FTC or whatsoever. So, the one open item, ongoing item really relates to the disclosure of the origination fee. And again, where we believe the complaint is really factually unwarranted and that we are in compliance with the requirements there.

Henry Coffey

Analyst · Wedbush. Please go ahead.

And then, in terms of looking at the overall business, how small can a CLUB Cert pool be?

Tom Casey

Analyst · Wedbush. Please go ahead.

We typically have it in size somewhere in the $25 million to $50 million range, typically the size that these come in.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst · Wedbush. Please go ahead.

And that’s as they start as people are...

Tom Casey

Analyst · Wedbush. Please go ahead.

Yes. They typically -- we are finding that people want to have a program of these. It’s not just a one-off transaction. What you see and read that we are offering so many different products now for folks that want to buy individual loans on the platform, folks that want to buy securitizations with different credit profiles, folks that want to buy in CLUB Cert form. So, there’s a whole series of some new things we are doing with block trades. There is a whole host of investors that we are manufacturing and creating structures to meet their needs. And so, the CLUB Cert is just one new way for us to reach those investors.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst · Wedbush. Please go ahead.

But the buyers are typically pretty large asset managers. So, these -- what’s Tom talking about, 25 to $30 million, we would view as kind of that initial purchases as they are coming on to the platform. But, we would expect that they would grow in size over time.

Henry Coffey

Analyst · Wedbush. Please go ahead.

And then, just a last question. I know with the credit card companies, they have a lot of flexibility around their marketing cost. As the year unfolds, and you look like you are headed to EBITDA numbers, would that be an opportunity to get more aggressive there or what would your thoughts be? And then I’ll get off. Thank you.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst · Wedbush. Please go ahead.

Yes. It works a little differently for us than with a card company because they are building a portfolio, and an acquisition of a customer essentially is an expense that they’re getting the revenue for, over time, as the consumers build balances. For us, it’s more marketing spend leads quite directly to loan origination and revenue in the quarter. So, there are certainly opportunities for optimization within quarter. And that’s part of what you saw in Q1 as we are kind of reallocating our mix to different channels and will be more aggressive with testing in the second and third quarters where we know consumers are more actively in the market and will pull back in the fourth quarter and first quarter, correspondingly, and that’s why you see more -- relatively sequentially here in Q1 more modest growth.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Mark May with Citi. Please go ahead.

Mark May

Analyst

I just had one real quick one. I know that you guys are constantly optimizing your promotional messages, probably your onboarding, your applications et cetera. Just wondering if you’ve made any changes to any of this things, against sort of the applications, disclosures on the applications, your promotional materials, your website et cetera in recent months or weeks, particularly around the fee disclosures. Thanks.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst

Yes. I mean, we’re always making changes. As of today, we would have something in the neighborhood of 80 or 90 different tests going that would incorporate all aspects of the experience from marketing messaging to product features to user flow. So we’re always making changes. But nothing specifically in response to this latest development.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Heath Terry with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Heath Terry

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Great, thanks. I know, you’ve talked a little bit about sort of the advertising efficiency that you saw in the quarter. Wondering if you could sort of disaggregate that for us a little bit more in terms of what you’re seeing from a -- whether it’s lower unit prices on your advertising, just simply better mix or higher response rates from advertisers. I caught your point before about rates potentially driving that piece higher. And then, to what extent that higher or more efficient advertising spend is going to be reinvested into a business in a way where we might be able to expect some degree of growth acceleration as you move back towards sort of your target advertising ROI?

Tom Casey

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

So, I think as we’ve said on the call in our prepared remarks, most of the efficiency you’re seeing is more in line of mix and calibration to the new credit model that we’ve talked about. Those are probably the two biggest drivers, and that’s something that we continue to start to benefit from testing that we did frankly last year and in previous quarters as we saw opportunities to lead into new areas that are lower cost of originations. We clearly want to continue to invest in finding new ways, but at the same time, we are trying to also drive level of profitability in our business. We’re very encouraged with coming into that 2.5 type level of marketing, seems to be a spot where we should be able to operate. Certain quarters that may go up a little bit, certain quarters may be down as we modulate certain tests. But, we feel encouraged about our mix and the efforts we’ve got going. And some of the conversion efforts that Scott was mentioning in product design and funnel conversion efforts. So, all those are really all contributing to all this productivity you’re seeing both in M&S and O&S frankly. And we really got about half of that margin expansion because of both of those efforts.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Rob Wildhack with Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.

Rob Wildhack

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.

Hi, guys. Question on operating expenses more broadly. To what degree should we consider this I guess sort of new run-rate base going forward? Is this a new more normalized level or is there a possibility that OpEx picks back up in the coming quarters or next year?

Tom Casey

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.

I think we’ve been talking about our expense base for quite some time, as you think about the evolution of this business model. We now have enormous scale that we’re relooking at the way we deploy some of those dollars. And so, we kind of think that we can get our margins up. I think investor day, we’d like to exit the year about 15% of EBITDA margin. We think that is doable with the guidance we’ve given you. But, it is leveraging our infrastructure. Really, it’s about not growing as fast as revenue. So, what you’re seeing is our ability to create a wedge between revenue growth of that 20% and operating expense is only 10% that will drive a lot operational leverage and expand our margins. And so, we think we have sufficient investments that we can make within that. There’ll be quarters where I am sure we’ll have some things we’ll talk to you about that we’re making investments that are coming to the financials we’ll make sure we call those out for you so you understand them compared to the run rate. But overall, we feel that we should be able to run at a higher margin.

Rob Wildhack

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.

And then, transaction fees as a percentage of originations took a decent step down in the quarter. And I know you’ll steer us more towards the total revenue yield, which was up. But do you think it’d be helpful if you could just provide some detail on the transaction fee decrease?

Tom Casey

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.

Yes. The transaction fee decrease really is a result of our efforts to remix. With moving more percentage to As and Bs, we obviously earn a lower rate there. That’s where we have among some of the most demand in our platform. So, we feel very good about that mix. But it does put some pressure on the transaction yield. As you indicated, we’ve more than offset that with the additional revenue we’re getting on the structuring and our structure program. So, we’re encouraged by that. But I don’t -- I think there was a big shift in the first quarter. I wouldn’t say that trend will necessarily continue at that same pace. We clearly made a change coming out of our investor day, you’ve seen that in the first quarter. I wouldn’t expect a significant of a step function in 2Q and rest of the year. I think we’ve made a lot of movement in to the A, Bs and Cs and we may see this move around a little bit. But I think most of that is in the numbers at this point.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Jed Kelly with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Jed Kelly

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Banks were up, up nicely sequentially. Can you kind of dig into some of the drivers behind that? And going forward, is that sort of the right base to look at for bank originations growing? And then, have you seen any changes in the consumer pull-through rate since the FTC lawsuit?

Tom Casey

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Just on the bank mix, as Scott mentioned in his prepared remarks, we saw an increase from about 36% mix of banks to 48%. That is consistent with what my previous comment was as we increase the percentage of A, Bs, and Cs by its nature, those are sold to banks. So, by definition, that should go up. It was also impacted by a bulk trade we made in the first quarter that also increased that percentage. So, I think first quarter is a little bit higher that what we would expect on a run rate basis, but reflects those two events. The one will continue on as we have higher percentage of A, Bs, and Cs, which are typically purchased by them.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

And it gives you a good view into the relative flexibility of the platform with the long list of investors that we’ve got. It’s ability to kind of absorb changes in the mix like that from quarter to quarter. So, on the question on customer response, I touched earlier on the fact that the on the investors side, we’ve been very pleased with the response and feedback there. As many on the call know, investors do extensive diligence on LendingClub before they begin to buy and so, are familiar with our operations. On the borrower side, we are monitoring very closely. We are not seeing any change in demand for the asset or any kind of increase in complaints.

Jed Kelly

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

And then, on I think you called out 2.8 million applications in the first quarter. So, implying that is a percentage of originations fulfilled that was in the single digits. Just a big picture question, how do you sort of think about potentially monetizing the traffic that doesn’t ultimately turn into origination.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Yes. I would say, a very exciting future opportunity for growth. Things like what we touched on today, the ability to look beyond the bureau by using bank transaction data is an example of a way that we can either provide better pricing to people who are already serving or potentially approved people that would’ve been declined prior to that. So that is part of the future growth opportunity for us.

Jed Kelly

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Scott Sanborn

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

And I would note, we’re really entering the quarter feeling really good about that overall demand we’re seeing.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes our question-and-answer session as well as today’s conference. We thank you for attending the presentation, and you may disconnect your lines at this time.