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Manchester United plc (MANU)

Q2 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 9, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Manchester United Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] We'd like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded. Before we begin, we'd like to inform everyone that this conference call will include estimates and forward-looking statements which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements. Any such estimates or forward-looking statements should be considered in conjunction with the cautionary note in our earnings release regarding forward-looking statements and risk factor discussions in our filings with the SEC. Manchester United PLC assumes no obligation to update any of the estimates or forward-looking statements. I'll now turn the conference over to Ed Woodward, Executive Vice Chairman of Manchester United. Please go ahead, sir.

Edward Woodward

Analyst

Thank you, operator; and thank you everyone for joining us today. With me on the call are Cliff Baty, our CFO; and Hemen Tseayo, our Head of Corporate Finance. As you can see from the strong numbers that we released this morning, we remain on track to achieve our annual guidance, which includes record revenues of 2017. These revenue numbers are particularly pleasing given the negative impact non-participation in the Champions League. Cliff will go through the numbers in detail shortly. On the pitch, we remain involved in all competitions and have qualified the EFL Cup where we face Southampton on 26th of February at Wembley, our third visit in 12 months. Borussia [ph] progressed the fifth [ph] time in the FA Cup where we face Blackburn and the Round 32 of the Europa League where we face St-Étienne. Finally, with 14 more league games left in the Premier League or to say over the third of the season left to play, we are approaching the business end of the season and look forward to a strong finish. I’d like to take this opportunity to congratulate Wayne Rooney on becoming Manchester United's all-time record goal scorer, achieving a remarkable feat of scoring 250 goals over the last 13 seasons, surpassing Bobby Charlton's record which stood for 44 years. Our key to EBITDA of £69 million is a record quarter profit for the Club and a testament to the resilience of our business model, which allows us to overcome the performance volatility inheritance sport, while simultaneously investing in that business for growth. During the quarter, we signed global sponsorship deals with Mlily, the Club's first official mattress and pillow partner and Deezer our first partnership in digital music streaming. We also renewed our partnership with Concha y Toro, our wine partner.…

Cliff Baty

Analyst

Thank you, Ed. Hello, everyone. I’m going to review our results for the second quarter of fiscal 2017. As usual, unless I mention otherwise, all figures are in U.K pound sterling. As mentioned in the last quarter, year-over-year comparisons throughout fiscal 2017 will be materially impacted by three themes. Firstly, the impact of non-competition to the Champions League competition on broadcasting figures. Second, the new domestic and international Premier League deals, and thirdly, the cadence of matches on a quarterly basis. During the quarter, we played three additional home games compared to the prior year, two Premier League and one domestic cup. This together with the new broadcasting deals, contributed to the 18% growth in total revenues for the period to a ₤157.9 million. Adjusted EBITDA for the period was ₤69 million, 23% above last year's second quarter driven by the increased revenues, partially offset by higher wage costs and increased operating expenses. As with previous announcements, we’ve included both adjusted profit and adjusted earnings per share, as we believe that in assessing the true comparative financial performance of the business it is useful to strip out the distorting impact of items that are unrelated to underlying business, and then apply a normalized tax rate of 35% for both the current and prior periods. And we provide a reconciliation of this in the earnings release. Adjusted profit for the quarter was ₤17.4 million compared to ₤17.7 million, as the EBITDA growth was offset by increased player amortization following the investments in playing staff over the summer. Turning to the key items of note in the financial statements. Commercial revenues were up ₤0.7 million with growth in both sponsorship and retail, merchandising, apparel, and product licensing revenues been partially offset by decline in mobile and content revenues. As Ed mentioned, we’ve…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from John Janedis of Jefferies. Please go ahead.

John Janedis

Analyst

Thank you. Cam you provide more detail on the thinking behind the ticket price freeze for next year. How should we think about Matchday revenue growth I guess for the year assuming backing of champions' League and should it be comparable to fiscal '16 or closer to fiscal 17 levels.

Edward Woodward

Analyst

Hi, John. On the first point, the ticket price freeze that we’ve announced, that’s a sixth year in a row that we’ve done that and that is our policy with regards to the core fans in the stadium. I think the number one, most important thing is a full stadium, the second most important thing is a noisy stadium and we can mix to keep in that. So that’s on the ticket freeze and I -- we wouldn’t be guiding anything beyond that in terms of expectation for future as well. But in terms of the Matchday growth, Cliff do you want to mention …

Cliff Baty

Analyst

Yes, thanks Ed. I think John to answer your question, I think 2016 is a better comparator. I mean, Champions League games do attract greater revenues, bigger attendances and we do also give discounts for the Europa League. So if you’re looking sort of an like-to-like basis. I would use 2016 when we were left in the Champions League as a guide.

John Janedis

Analyst

Thanks, Cliff. Maybe on sponsorship, over the past several quarters, the sponsorship revenue growth has slowed from what we saw in years prior and obviously makes some comments around recent deals. But how do you think about the long-term rate of that business now that has reached somewhat of a more mature state?

Edward Woodward

Analyst

Yes, I mean, it’s a good question. The double-digit growth rates are harder as the lower size impacts in the analysis. And so as the business has got bigger, I wouldn’t say it’s a mature business, I still view it as a great business, but it's harder to drive those big double-digit annual increases that we’ve seen in the past. So that’s a fair question. I think we still feel that the long-term prospects of the sponsorship part of the business are extremely good. We feel that there is a very good pipeline and that’s evidenced, I guess, by the recent announcements of Deezer and Uber, plus the big buzz around the treatment [ph] of popularity of football, which continues to show big pull from corporate channel.

John Janedis

Analyst

Thank you very much.

Edward Woodward

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Bryan Kraft of Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Bryan Kraft

Analyst

Hi. Thank you for taking the question. I wanted to ask you two things. I guess, one, just on the roster, are you guys happy with the roster at this point? Just how you’re thinking at this point about player spend as the next transfer window opens up. And on the new streaming service, how broad will that be made available geographically, and should we expect mobile and content to start becoming a growth driver again as a result of their product launch, Thanks.

Edward Woodward

Analyst

Okay. So the first question, are we happy with the roster at this point? Yes. I think there's a happiness from the manager at this point as you can tell in all his recent interviews, in terms of where we are as a squad. I think there is always going to be continual improvement, I think even if you win everything you still want to improve the squad, that’s the nature of the dynamic industry that we're in. So -- but I think we are necessarily in a position where we have to churn a large number of players, as guided before we want to get remove steady state and re-buying and potentially selling a lower number of players each year, and I think we're in that kind of environment now compared to where we were two, three years ago when perhaps there is a little bit more churn required from the playing squad perspective. And in terms of like guidance, obviously we don’t guide around player spent. It's a number that you can track always on a deal-by-deal basis, because it's -- things are very widely published when the happened, but it isn't something that we will guide on. Your second question was around the apps that we’re streaming. It is MUTV. So this is MUTV channel, the linear channel which we’re putting live available on an app and indeed with on-demand content alongside that. But how -- I think your main question was geographically how wide this can go? It cannot go into the U.K., because of the deed of license restrictions with the Premier League. So it's not in the U.K and it is not in many countries worldwide where we have sponsorship deals in existence with partners who can utilize an exclusive content within those territories. But it is still going to 160 plus countries round the world, right. I think the way to look at this is, of course we believe that the mobile and the content side of this business will grow over the years to come. The main app, the main platform will be launched at some point later in 2017, and we’ve measured about expectations around this and we won't be giving guidance, but I think this is a case of -- let's report in the coming quarters and over the years rather than the next quarter, if you like, you will see growth in this area.

Bryan Kraft

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much. Very helpful.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Omar Sheikh of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Omar Sheikh

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning everyone. I just got a couple of questions. Just following on -- from your comments is now on the MUTV app. I don’t know whether there is anything in addition to that, that you’re planning on the digital side. I know you talked before about improving e-commerce experience in the [indiscernible], demand for merchandise and so on more widely. I wonder whether you can guide us on whether there is any progress on that front? And then second question, just on the tour for this year, I think I don’t know you’ve concerned where the tour is going to be in 2017, but [indiscernible] first of all, you’re going to come to the U.S., in the summer. I wonder you could just sort of give us a bit of an insight into that, and whether it will be the same sort of size with a number of matches that we saw in 2015? Thanks.

Edward Woodward

Analyst

Yes, hi, Omar. Your first question and then in terms of the -- in addition to the MUTV app. As I said at the end of the last question, that’s -- that is just the MUTV live experience. So, if you have BT Sport on your phone or Sky on your phone, it’s just equivalent to that plus on-demand content. The broader products, which we’ve obviously been working on for some time is with much greater functionality, it's still being worked on and as I just guided earlier, 2017 will be our expectation of when that comes to market. So that is the broader platform and that is the one that obviously we will be telling you all about once we get to the point of launch. The second question on Tour, we haven't announced where we’re going at, so I can't confirm or deny whether it's the U.S, but I can say it will be a larger Tour than last year. I mean, obviously last year was a smaller tour in planning and be smaller in terms of the games, because obviously what happened in Beijing. So it will be a broader Tour in terms of number of games than we experienced last summer.

Bryan Kraft

Analyst

Okay, great. That’s very clear. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Alex Mees of JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Alex Mees

Analyst

Hi, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my questions. So, a couple please. Firstly, just on replica shirt sales. I believe you sold more of these shirts last year than any other club. I wonder if you could just give a sense of how you see that progressing into the future, particularly as you got some very high-profile names on a global basis now in the squad. Does that help and given the [indiscernible] historically been focused in the U.K whether there is an opportunity, you think to increase at retail more widely across the world? And then secondly, I just wanted to confirm why the mobile and content revenue fell by a third in the quarter. Is it just in the run-up to the release of the app or is it something else?

Edward Woodward

Analyst

Okay. I will take the first one there, Alex. So the Replica shirts being number one in the world, that’s -- so how do we see that progressing? I mean, we see that continuing. It's a cool [indiscernible] but the reality is we did lot of analysis when Cristiano left the club in 2009 and it doesn't have a material impact when a star leaves because people go stand by Manchester United shirt and then when they are in the shop or they’re online deciding which name to put on the back, that’s when they made that decision. But the decision of making the purchase is a different one to the name on the back. So we see that continuing. I think the second part of your question was how do we see the opportunity from an ex-U.K global basis? We see that is definitely an area of growth, because as our partner [indiscernible] develops the footprint from a wholesale perspective or the retail perspective from their -- through their lens, then obviously there is a greater opportunity for our fans to go and buy those products. And you know all I can really say at this point is, it's heading in a very good direction. And then the second question, Cliff do you want to …?

Cliff Baty

Analyst

Yes, sure. Alex, one thing on the mobile and content, it’s a big percentage, but it is also sort of a lower -- of small numbers through there. So we are down year-on-year and that is purely due to the loss of two deals in two particular countries. One of them is related specifically just to payments, restrictions and issues in that country. So nothing really under the underlying strength of that business is just to particular -- particularly a contract that are not in this year that weren't last year.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect the line.