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Mercury Systems, Inc. (MRCY)

Q2 2026 Earnings Call· Tue, Feb 3, 2026

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Operator

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Mercury Systems Second Quarter Fiscal 2026 Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, for opening remarks and introductions, I'd like to turn the call over to the company's Vice President of Investor Relations, Tyler Hojo. Please go ahead, Mr. Hojo.

Tyler Hojo

Investor Relations

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us. With me today is our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, William L. Ballhaus, and our Executive Vice President and CFO, David E. Farnsworth. If you have not received a copy of the earnings press release we issued earlier this afternoon, you can find it on our website at mrcy.com. The slide presentation that we will be referencing is posted on the Relations section of the website under Events and Presentations. Turning to slide two in the presentation, I'd like to remind you that today's presentation includes forward-looking statements, including information regarding Mercury's financial outlook, future plans, objectives, business prospects, and anticipated financial performance. These forward-looking statements are subject to future risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results or performance to differ materially. All forward-looking statements should be considered in conjunction with the cautionary statements on Slide two in the earnings press release and the risk factors included in Mercury's SEC filings. I'd also like to mention that in addition to reporting financial results in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP, during our call, we will also discuss several non-GAAP financial measures, specifically adjusted income, adjusted earnings per share, adjusted EBITDA, and free cash flow. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP metrics is included as an appendix to today's slide presentation and in the earnings press release. I'll now turn the call over to Mercury's Chairman and CEO, William L. Ballhaus. Please turn to Slide three.

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Tyler. Good afternoon. Thank you for joining our Q2 FY 2026 earnings call. We delivered Q2 results that were ahead of our expectations, with solid year-over-year growth in backlog, revenue, and adjusted EBITDA and robust free cash flow. Our ability to accelerate progress on a number of our customers' high-priority programs once again contributed to strong results this quarter, including record first-half revenue. Today, I'll cover three topics. First, some introductory comments on our business and results. Second, an update on our four priorities: performance excellence, building a thriving growth engine, expanding margins, and driving free cash flow. And third, performance expectations for the balance of FY 2026 and longer term. Then I'll turn it over to Dave, who will walk through our financial results in more detail. Before jumping in, I'd like to thank our customers for their collaborative partnership and the trust they put in Mercury to support their most critical programs. I'd also like to thank our Mercury team for their dedication and commitment to delivering mission-critical processing at the edge. Please turn to Slide four. Our Q2 results support our expectations for robust organic growth with expanding margins and positive free cash flow. Bookings of $288 million and a 1.23 book-to-bill resulting in a record backlog approaching $1.5 billion. Revenue of $233 million with first-half revenue up 7.1% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA of $30 million and adjusted EBITDA margin of 12.9%, up 36.3% and 300 basis points, respectively, year-over-year. And free cash flow of $46 million, well ahead of our expectations. We ended Q3 with $335 million of cash on hand. These results reflect ongoing focus on our four priority areas with highlights that include solid execution across our broad portfolio of production and development programs, backlog growth of 8.8% year-over-year, a streamlined operating structure enabling…

David E. Farnsworth

CFO

Thank you, Bill. Second quarter results continue to reflect solid progress toward our goal of delivering organic growth, expanding margins, and robust free cash flow. We still have work to do to reach our targeted profile but we are encouraged by the progress we have made and expect to continue this momentum going forward. With that, please turn to Slide 10, which details our second quarter results. Our bookings for the quarter were approximately $288 million with a book-to-bill of 1.23. Our record backlog of nearly $1.5 billion is up $119 million or 8.8% year-over-year. Revenues for the second quarter were $233 million, up approximately $10 million or 4.4% compared to the prior year. During the second quarter, we were again able to accelerate progress on a number of customers' high-priority programs worth approximately $30 million of revenue primarily planned for Q3. Fiscal 2026. Gross margin for the second quarter decreased approximately 130 basis points to 26% as compared to the same quarter last year. The gross margin decrease during the second quarter was primarily driven by execution on lower margin programs. As Bill previously noted, we expect to see an improvement in our gross margin performance over time as the average margin in our backlog improves, and through our continued focus to simplify, automate, and optimize our operations. We expect the average backlog margin to continue to increase as we convert lower margin backlog and bring in new bookings that we believe will be in line with our targeted margin profile. Operating expenses decreased approximately $2 million or 2.4% year-over-year. The decrease in research and development costs of approximately $6 million or 28% was driven by efficiency improvements and headcount reductions initiated in fiscal 2025 to align our team composition with our increased production mix as we previously discussed.…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. Again, that is star one to ask a question. We'll take the first question today from Peter Arment from Baird. Good evening, Bill and Dave, Tyler. Nice results. Hey. Bill, can you give us a little bit of a, like, kind of a handicap? How do we think about how much is left of the lower margin backlog that you've got to kind of convert and pull through? It sounds like it's going to be still with us for Q3, but, obviously, it sounds Q4 is going be the highest margin of the year. How should we think about just kind of how that exits the system?

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

I mean, it's it's the same progression that we've been talking about for several quarters now where at the end of end of FY 2024, we talked about that backlog margin, the average of backlog margin being lower than what we expected see on an ongoing basis, driven by a number of factors. And that that would need to flow through over time. And if you look at the duration of our backlog, it wasn't a four quarter period of time. Wasn't necessarily a twelve quarter period of time. Somewhere in between. So as we work our way through 2026, and through 2027, we expect to see most of the impact tied to the low margin distribution of our backlog. Start to burn through and get behind us. I think the good news on this front, you know, our our gross margin in the quarter was down. It's actually a good thing because it reflects that we are burning down that lower margin distribution in our backlog. And we continue to replace that part of our backlog. With higher margin bookings that we expect to be in line with our target profile. So no change from what we said before to continuation If anything, we made great progress this quarter in burning down the low margin distribution as well as bringing in solid bookings in the quarter.

Peter Arment

Management

Thanks for that call, Bill. Just a quick follow-up. Just when we think about the pull forward, is that something that's also tied to this low margin backlog? Or is this just you know, something that you're calling out just because I think there's some confusion about what's pull forward or what's growth, etcetera.

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. I mean, you've seen over the last several quarters that we've been successful in accelerating deliveries, and it's had an impact in us delivering results that ahead of our expectations. And that's exactly what happened again this quarter. We had about $30 million of revenue that we pulled forward It impacted EBITDA positively by about $10 million. That gives you a sense for where that backlog sits in our distribution because it basically flows through a gross margin. There's not much OpEx. There isn't any OpEx. That we had associated with it. So I would say this this quarter is just a continuation of we've been delivering over the last several quarters.

Peter Arment

Management

Appreciate the call. I'll jump back in the queue. Thanks, Bill. Thanks, Peter.

Operator

Operator

Up next is Kenneth George Herbert from RBC.

Kenneth George Herbert

Management

Hi. Good afternoon. Bill, Dave, and Tyler. Hey. Maybe, Bill, I just wanna start first on the capacity you called out that you're adding in terms of the CPA. Can you level set us in terms of where you are with with capacity today on that product line, maybe from a revenue standpoint, if possible? How we should think about how much more capacity you need to continue to bring on to support, you know, the order activity and the demand pull.

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. And I wanna just a reminder that the capacity that we're bringing online in Phoenix the cost associated with that is already in our OpEx. And so the investment that we're making is a little bit of CapEx to bring additional lines, onboard. We are continuing to ramp up production in our CPA area. That has gone basically per plan. Feeling very good about how we're delivering for our customers. We continue to grow our backlog. You saw in the quarter, we had another $20 million of orders associated with CPA. And we remain confident that as time goes on and we continue to execute on our programs, so we'll continue to see increased demand over time for that product line, and that's behind bringing on the additional space. As far as you know, additional capacity and investments required beyond that, one of the nice things about where we sit right now is when we look at all of the potential tailwinds that are out there, and we talked about what's what's driving those. For us to be positioned to execute and deliver on those tailwinds, the investment profile is really incremental, and it's graceful. And we don't have to invest ahead of the demand. In order to be able to deliver on it. And for the most part, we're running at single shifts across all of our factories. And so the first step for us to increase capacity to meet tailwinds would be to add additional shifts. And now with this capacity coming online, in Phoenix later this year, we'll be in the same position with CPA that we can very efficiently meet increased demand associated with tailwinds. Just by moving to additional shifts. So I think that's a really good place for us to be.

Kenneth George Herbert

Management

Hey. I appreciate the color. And if I and I could, I just wanted to ask a question on the guidance. I mean, I think you demonstrated a pattern here to be able to outperform and and it seems like they're you know, recurring, you're able to pull revenues to the left relative to expectations. You've obviously set up here today with this call a a fairly soft fiscal third quarter within a strong fourth quarter, and I hear appreciate the seasonality but but maybe what kept you back from pushing up the guide or having a little bit more confidence in the full year numbers because you've got multiple quarters now of of being able to obviously outperform and and exceed expectations and continue to over over over deliver relative to sort of the near term setup.

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. It and it has been pretty consistent quarter over quarter for the last several quarters. And if we think about the setup, to FY 2026, coming into the year, we pulled forward about $30 million of accelerated deliveries and revenue from 2026 into 2025. Which really set the stage for our expectation for the year to be low single digit growth on top of high single digits last year. If it weren't for that pull forward, we would have been looking at mid single digit growth last year and high single digit growth this year. So it just shows how the movement between quarters can really impact the optics around growth in a period. Now as we've come through the first February, of FY 2026, we're well ahead of plan. If you look at our top line, if you look at our EBITDA, and if you look at free cash flow, all of that is ahead of plan. So our expectations for the year are the same now as they were coming into the year, What we've done is we've overperformed, and we shifted the profile to the left. Now the expectations and the commentary that we gave for Q3 is absent any further accelerations from Q4 into Q3 or any accelerations from FY 2027 into FY 2026. The reason why we're giving our commentary that way is for the most part, our ability to accelerate deliveries is largely driven by our ability to accelerate materials. So if you think about what just happened in Q2, in the last few weeks of Q2, we were able to pull in material so that we could deliver more units in Q2, and you heard that our point in time revenue in Q2 was the highest that it's been in five years. That's a reflection of us moving hardware through our factories and shipping it. In order to do that, it's based on accelerating material from our suppliers and we can't be certain that we're going to be able to accelerate until that material is house. And I don't wanna give commentary and set expectations based on things that we don't have a 100% confidence around. Now for the last several quarters, we have demonstrated the ability to exercise that muscle across our entire And every quarter, we've been able to accelerate $20 to $30 million in deliveries into the quarter. But we're not setting our expectations based on that because we're going to work through the quarter on the next set of constraints and the next set of material that we're trying to accelerate. And know, based on prior quarters, we've been able to do that, but we don't wanna set expectations assuming that that's going to happen. So hopefully that provides a little bit of clarity on that commentary.

Kenneth George Herbert

Management

Thanks, Bill. I appreciate the context.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Sheila Kahyaoglu from Jefferies.

Kyle Walters

Management

Hi, guys. This is Kyle on for Sheila. Thanks for taking my question. On an extension of the question that Peter asked, about low margin backlog and your your response that that sort of persists through FY 2027. Know, how do we think about the puts and takes as we think about mid teen margins this year and what FY 2027 could ultimately look like if you're still still burning through some of that past backlog in in light of potentially pulling forward growth and and what you're seeing in the bookings trends? Thanks.

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Kyle, thanks. Thanks for the question. I think just a point of clarification. You know, we we may have lower margin backlog still in our backlog as we're working our way through FY 2027. But it becomes increasingly smaller as time goes on. And so you know, as we move forward, the impact of our low margin backlog on our EBITDA margins continues to drop over time because the volume comes down. So you know, as as every quarter that progresses, we expect that impact to continue to come down. Because what we're doing is we're we're burning down that low margin backlog. It's going away, and we're replacing it with new bookings that are coming in quicker higher margins. And that's what's giving us the increase in our average backlog margin as time goes on. So, hopefully, that helps quite by the point. And build upon my and, you know, for Kyle. It it's becoming every quarter that goes by, it's a smaller percentage because of of the aggregate. Because as Bill said, we're not adding new things at low margin. You know? So so every quarter that we've had a a bit of a lower than our expected margin, that that number comes in in the backlog. That number starts coming down And when Bill said, you know, hey. You know, we expect that to some of that to go through FY 2027. You know, it's shrinking every quarter, and that getting closer and closer to nothing. As we go through. So I I I don't think people should build an expectation. That we're gonna have the same level of low margin activity every quarter as we go through 2027. We're not saying that at all.

David E. Farnsworth

CFO

Yeah. As a reminder, this this isn't a situation where it looks like we have a part of our business that's consistently running at lower margins. We have legacy programs, development programs, programs where we took EAC impacts in FY 2024 and FY 2025 that have resulted in that you know, lower margin distribution in our backlog. And we're just converting that and burning it through over time, and it's not being replaced. We're replacing it with higher margin book.

Kyle Walters

Management

Understood. Very helpful. If I could just ask one follow on about the net EICs. Obviously, they're much lower than they have been in the past, but have still been a little sticky at that 4 or $5 million a quarter. Can you just talk about what your know, where we are in the in in What, you know, what inning we are in terms of kinda scrubbing that portfolio and getting more towards a a normal baseline. Thanks, guys.

David E. Farnsworth

CFO

But but I did not go to the baseball questions because it was a track guy. So innings are hard for me. You know, maybe we're on the last leg of the relay race. You know? So you know, the largely, those EAC adjust adjustments or reflection as we talked about as we're going through and completing some of these programs at the very end. There are not that many programs left They're very small adjustments compared to what they were in the past. We're seeing solid positive adjustments at the same time. So you know, this quarter, it was three and a half million roughly. You know, could I see could I see and we've been asked, you know, many times, could we see that being positive in the quarter? Yeah. We could see that. You know, could it be slightly negative in the quarter? You know, it it it's within a range that that is not unexpected for us. It's consistent with what we we've considered in our outlook. You know? And you know, we keep every time we finish one of these programs, put it behind us. You know, it it lessens the the opportunity for those adjustments to happen in the future. So you know, I I guess, way, we're getting there, you know, you know, it's things that happen within the quarter as we're completing these things largely as we talk about on path on development. Programs, but they're older programs that we're just completing as we go through the final kind of qualification on these things. And I would just say very simply that we think they're kind of in a normal course range right now, and you know, we're we're confident in our ability to get to our target margin profile. With the EACs and the ZIP code that they've been running over the last several quarters.

Operator

Operator

The next question today will come from Seth Seifman from JPMorgan.

Seth Seifman

Management

Nice quarter. I wanted to ask the common processing architecture in terms of ramping up. I know you sure you don't wanna give an exact number, but, you know, if we think about kind of a rough proportion of what what that comprises in in the sales mix, Is there is there any way for you to kinda speak to, a, where that is and and, b, you know, where it should be going as we think know, a year or two out.

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Well, we haven't given a we haven't the percentage of the business or the the sales mix etcetera. I will say that we have been successful over the last year in ramping up to meet our program demands. The good news is the team has been executing very well in this area since we went through and implemented our root cause corrective action in started bringing the production line back up, and we've seen the follow on orders coming. And we do see good growth potential in this part of the business. We see healthy demand. And it's an area where we're technically differentiated. And so we have you know, a lot of optimism about this part of our business and continue to to have that. Yeah. And and I think, you know, we don't talk about, you know, kind of where we are in individual programs, but I think there are programs that were know, that are fully ramped up in the production within the common processing There are other programs that are still ramping up.

Seth Seifman

Management

Okay. So there's still still runway, I I guess. Okay. And and then just when we think about you know, cash up to over $300 million, you bought back a little bit of stock in the quarter. How do we think about where that cash balance sort of should be over time And, you know, what what you guys are gonna gonna do with the the cash?

David E. Farnsworth

CFO

Yeah. You know, No. Good question. I mean, we we've said and, you know, kinda still validate and think about that you know, around a $100 to $150 million is probably the you know, the right kind of balance for us. It it's higher than that as we've generated significant cash in the last year and a half. You know, that's the right level you know, over the last two or three quarters, you know, kind of you know, probably to cash was to felt like the prudent approach to was to keep cash on our books as we were going through a little bit of uncertainty around government shutdowns, not shutdowns, you know, what what was gonna happen in terms of payment You know, our emphasis is still on delevering You know, that's something we're we're looking at, obviously, as we go through the next you know, couple of quarters.

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. I'd say the priorities around delevering and continuing to drive down that debt. That that remains the focus.

Seth Seifman

Management

Okay. Great. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Up next we'll take a question from Michael Ciarmoli from Truist.

Michael Ciarmoli

Management

Hey, good evening, guys. Thanks for taking the Good results. Hey, Mike. Bill Bill or Dave, just I mean, looking at your top line, and I could appreciate all the commentary. You're you're you're growing slower than some of your SMidCap peers and and even some of your customers. And I think maybe you you kind of alluded to it, but can you help us with exactly how much capacity is being allocated to the unbilled and maybe tease out that drag? I mean, is it is it kind of $10 million, $15 million a quarter? Just just to try and get a sense of of kinda how much is flowing through the p and l at at no revenue recognition. But, obviously, it's it's, you know, you're you're tying up capacity executing on that.

David E. Farnsworth

CFO

Yeah. Mike, that you know, we hadn't talked about that. You know? We we haven't put out, you know, this is how much revenue how much higher revenue would be if we stop doing that. You know, it's a focus of our to continue to burn down our net working capital. We we're still not where we think our net working capital should be. We still think the unbilled balances are too high. You know, certainly, there's some drag for that. We've talked about that. But but we haven't quantified it.

Michael Ciarmoli

Management

Okay. That's fair. Well, maybe we'll take that offline. Just maybe back to Ken's question as well. You know, on kind of the choke points and why you can't consistently see some of this acceleration. We're one month into the quarter, As you kind of gauge your suppliers and look at maybe potential choke points. Are are there certain items that are you know, giving you less confidence? Is it is it semiconductors? Is it is it circuit boards? Can you just maybe is it discrete components? What is sort of the items on that material list that's given you reason for pause?

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Like, lit literally every week with the teams across every program, we're going through every bill in the chair, though, line by line and looking at what does it take for us to get KIT complete. And that you know, that can vary by program. But we're literally working across all of our programs to figure out how we can accelerate kick completion so that we can move hardware through our factories. And and the reality is while we're pushing on our suppliers to close out kits, we don't know that the material will be here until the day that shows up because, literally, a supplier could tell us that the material will be here off Friday, and then on Friday, tell us that it's delayed by sixty days for one reason or another. So that's the reason why we're not incorporating any further accelerations into our outlook. But we're working it very aggressively every day across the business. And I think the good news is the last several quarters we have demonstrated that we have built the muscle in the company to do this fairly consistently. We're just not baking it into our commentary. And and I wouldn't say you know, Mike, I it as you know, something's lessening our confidence. You know, I you know, we go into the quarter, as Bill said, with, you know, hey. What would we need to do to be able to accelerate this? get it done And then we work on those constraints all quarter long to build our confidence that we can So, you know, not I I wouldn't suggest that anything's lessening our our confidence and our ability to do it. It's a pro it's a process we work

Michael Ciarmoli

Management

Okay. That's fair. Good stuff. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Mike.

Operator

Operator

Austin Moeller from Canaccord Genuity has the next question.

Austin Moeller

Management

Hi. Good afternoon. Nice quarter. You able to comment and I know it's small, but are you able to comment on the revenue impact to Mercury of the stop work order on the SCAR program, and if that were to be resumed, when you might expect, task quarters or long weeks to come in on delivering components for that?

David E. Farnsworth

CFO

Yeah. Austin, we don't we don't we don't quantify individual contracts or programs. You know, we we have literally 300 different programs, and one of the strengths we have is the broadness of our portfolio and the revenue across it. There's there's no single contract that we have that approaches 10% of our revenue. And, you know, we're we're working closely with our customer here and, you know, have have thought through with them and, you know, understand where we are in terms of funding, where where they are, you know, what they're doing in terms of that stuff work. And, you know, it it's incorporated in our outlook, but it has been. There's not you know, there's nothing that we would change at this juncture. Okay. And I I understand the dynamic of the contract shift towards higher margin production contracts in the near term here. But is there a specific mix of component product types that you expect to be bridging you to your long term gross margin and EBITDA margin expectations of low to mid 20s?

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. No. Not not not specifically. You know, Bill's talked about the the production versus development mix and you know, whether eighty twenty is is there an ideal number? There probably isn't. You know? We're, you know, we're in the range kind of we expect to be in You know, the margins that we're bringing into our new bookings are consistent with our longer term model. Of of what we expect. You know? So it is across the portfolio. You know? We we feel good across the portfolio about the margin profile we're seeing in all our new bookings.

Austin Moeller

Management

Understood. Thanks for all the color there. Great. Yep.

Operator

Operator

Next up is a question from Jonathan Ho, William Blair.

Jonathan Ho

Management

Hi, good afternoon. Just wanted to see if there's any additional color you can offer regarding updates to both Golden Dome and those international orders that you're perhaps getting a little bit more visibility towards?

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. You know, it it's interesting because we think about the growth drivers in our business right now, we have a number of different growth factors. I mean, obviously, at the core, it's the ramp to rate from our development programs to production. And that's largely what is the driver behind SA achieving our target profile of above market growth. Top line growth, EBITDA margins in the low to mid 20% range in free cash flow conversion of 50 plus percent. And then on top of that, which you don't really factor into that outlook, are a number of different tailwinds in the market associated with the larger US defense budget a larger percentage of that budget being allocated to the acquisition of capabilities like ours The the executive orders that we've feel like really play to our sweet spot Things like mandating the use of commercial technology, which was right in the center of our value proposition. Of course, Golden Dome, significant tailwinds there, and the growth of the international defense market. So that's kind of the landscape of growth drivers that are out there. I would say that for both Golden Dome and for international opportunities, we're having numerous conversations. They continue to progress. Across our portfolio on a large number of programs. So it's not one or two opportunities that we're tracking. There's a dozen plus programs where we're having conversations with customers around significant increases in quantities. And I would say that if any of those tailwinds were to hit that that would that would shift our expectations around our ability to hit our target profile and exceed our target profile. So still on the pipeline phases. Conversations are still progressing. And the best leading indicator that we'll have is when those conversations materialize. The bookings, and we'll keep you posted as as as those conversations progress.

Jonathan Ho

Management

Excellent. And then just in terms of your cost savings and facilities consolidation initiatives, can you give us a sense of how far along we are there and maybe some of the incremental margin opportunities that are still remaining.

David E. Farnsworth

CFO

Yeah. Mean, we we've made a lot of progress as we've talked about savings that we've already recognized. And you can certainly see that when you look at the kind of the run rate we have on our OpEx now. Versus what it was two years ago, You know, we continue to you know, identify everything. You know, we continue to work on the things that make the most sense to make us more efficient you know, some of the automation Bill talking about, you know, simplifying the process. Looking at our facilities. You know, obviously, the facilities you know, take a longer time frame to recognize those kind of savings, but you know, Bill said many times this is a long term you know, life always part of your life is looking for savings. How can you do things better? So so we still see it going for a long time. You know? Bill talked about the operating leverage and how you can see as we've been able to accelerate activity, we haven't increased our expense associated with those activities. So it kinda flows right through. That's the kind of impact that we expect to keep seeing as we build the business going forward.

Operator

Operator

As a reminder, everyone, it is star one if you have a question today. We'll go next to Noah Poponak with Goldman Sachs.

Noah Poponak

Management

Hey. Good evening, everyone.

David E. Farnsworth

CFO

Hey, Noah.

Noah Poponak

Management

Could you level set us on the percentage of your revenue that is international? And I don't know if you could estimate or if you have the number on what's direct versus you know, eventually ends up outside of The US, but it's through a US customer. And then same question on missile and munition. Just as we all kinda recalibrate for growth rates in those two segmentations.

David E. Farnsworth

CFO

Yeah. So so first, I would tell you, you know, that we don't we don't break out you know, if you're if you're asking about FMS versus you know, non FMS, we don't actually break that out. In our financials. You know? And in to a large degree, we follow our customer set. So as we're going through, we're we're working with our customers on what that breakout is. But if you look at if you look at the queue, you can see the the international and SMS revenue and for the for the second quarter, that was $38 million. So that's Percentage. Real quick. 15% range, something like that.

Noah Poponak

Management

Okay. Yep. And do you have an approximation for how much revenue you generate from the category of missiles and munitions?

David E. Farnsworth

CFO

We don't we don't break that out separately.

Noah Poponak

Management

Okay. You'll be you'll be able to see in the queue the breakout between FMS and international and our domestic business. And you know, the as as we know with with our business, programs and revenue can be kind of lumpy. The international FMS business had been growing nicely. Its its growth rate is down a little bit this quarter. But, of course, that highlights that our domestic business, when you look at the first half, year over year, is up low teens, which I think speaks to some of the inherent growth of our domestic business right now, which is pretty exciting. So there's a little bit of detail that you'll see in in the queue. We we remain very bullish about the international opportunity where our backlog is And and you can close on it. We do break out sensors and effectors, but you know, to to break it into just specifically how much is missile you know, would you know, you can look at that, but it would be something we show. Understood. That is helpful. I appreciate it.

Noah Poponak

Management

Question on margins. Could you speak to even if directionally in the medium term framework, what do you expect for the gross margin and then R and D and SG and A as a percentage of revenue to walk to that EBITDA margin which I just it'd be helping to understand just given those percentages have been moving around as you've taken on your your strategy?

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. I I I don't think we've spoken to gross margin explicitly when it comes to our target margin profile. But what we said about our targeted EBITDA margins in the low to mid 20% range So basically, the elements of the bridge from where we are to get to that target range involved the backlog margin progressing the way we talked about. So burning off below margin programs and continuing to bring in new bookings in line with our target margins. And we've been doing that consistently for several quarters, and we continue marching down that path. Continuing to streamline and focus, automate, drive efficiencies into the business, And then third, positive operating leverage because we feel like we've got our OpEx in a very good place. And as we continue to grow the top line, we don't expect to see meaningful growth in our OpEx. So those three elements really provide the bridge from where we are to that you know, that targeted margin profile.

Noah Poponak

Management

Okay. That's helpful. And just one last one I had. The the step back up in restructuring to the $4 million Just curious what what you're doing there? And what it does for for the future?

David E. Farnsworth

CFO

Yeah. That's what we we took an action in the quarter you know, and you can see this when you when you look in the queue. You know, that affected you know, about a 100 folks and, you know, in some facilities. So, you know, we do expect to see some lift of that as we go through the you know, get the full impact of that over the next year or so.

Noah Poponak

Management

Okay. Alright. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And, Mr. Ballhaus, it appears there are no further questions at this time. Therefore, I would like to hand the call back to you for any additional or closing remarks.

William L. Ballhaus

Chief Executive Officer

Okay. Well, thank you very much, and thanks, everyone, for joining us for our quarterly call. And we look forward to meeting again next quarter. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Again, everyone, that does conclude today's conference. We would like to thank you all for your participation today. You may now disconnect.