Andrew Clyde
Analyst · Bonnie Herzog with Wells Fargo. Your line is open
Okay. I will try to remember all those questions. So I think if you go back to the chart that we used in a lot of our Analyst Days about the competitive models at scale, I would say they're different, certainly the hypermarket model and the Big-Box model. But they're both seeking to achieve the same thing, which is standalone economics, which basically means a zero breakeven. So you need no margin from fuel to be able to breakeven and cover your costs. So are we structurally disadvantaged versus the others? Absolutely not. We are structurally advantaged when you think about that ultimate measure, but in a different way than they’re trying to get there. They’re trying to get it by selling more food and higher margin items to cover the significantly higher labor and other costs associated with that model to generate standalone economics for their business. No one is ever going to be selling fuel at a loss, right? It's a profit center, it always has been for every retailer out there. And so, I would say we are structurally advantaged similar to the way the best large Big-Box firms are, but just in a different way. The structurally disadvantaged players are these small boxes retailers, the 2,000 square foot ones with the legacy formats, the ones that are selling 80,000 gallons a month, which is the industry average, 100 something out of the store, and they've got $0.10, $0.12, $0.15, $0.20 breakeven. So I think that bottom quartile breakeven figure you cited from the NEX Data, which isn't the industry average, but it's their poll of companies. Comparing our $0.01 breakeven to their $0.20 breakeven, we are absolutely advantaged if you compare our $0.01 breakeven to $0.01 breakeven that a Big-Box with food would have where its structural parity we're just serving a different customer on different missions that are coincident with other trips that they're making. So we see that as a core reason behind continuing to build that strength. On the M&A side, look, we look at things from side -- from time-to-time and what I will tell you is when you see a chain that is 90% legacy stores that's built their hand full of bright shiny objects on, two to three acres that cost millions and millions of dollars, that are generating superior returns, and the bottom line EBITDA per store is half to 60% of our EBITDA per store, it's really hard to get excited about that. The amount of capital that then has to go into refurbishing those stores, the EMV compliance. If there was a truly distinct capability that came with that, that we could then -- at some point maybe, pivot towards a different model, that might be interesting. But most of the stuff you're seeing sold out there doesn't bring along with that some distinctive capability that you would pay a premium for.