Aaron Schapper
Analyst · Tieton Capital Management.
Yes. So, kind of, let's take it in 2 parts. First, I'd take RV, marine, kind of the more recreational vehicle part. I mean there remains a lot of hesitancy and caution among our customer base on that side. There's a lot of tariff uncertainty right now. And when people are looking at potential inflationary pressures and then sustained -- perhaps sustained high interest rates or at least not coming back down as fast as they normally or at least as projected on a dot plot earlier in the year, it creates a lot of uncertainty on that side. So, in general, a lot of RV and marine products are financed. So, when there's high interest rates, it makes it a lot harder for people to know, hey, how all in they're going to go. So really, it's that kind of economic uncertainty right now that really affects the marine and the RV spending. So, at this point, our customers are not really sure what the rest of the year is going to look like. Therefore, they're just -- there's kind of like a wait-and-see kind of approach. So that's why from our projections, we thought, well, that's going to be, a wait and see is going to affect us. So, that's why we project that market to not be as strong as we had. And particularly in the last call where things were looking up, that is definitely going to change since the tariffs were announced. So, around that uncertainty. And then it reflects the Automotive side and the parts that we do for the Automotive side, well, I mean, that's been pretty well covered on what's going on in the Automotive side with the tariffs and everything else. So once again, until we caution, hesitancy, a lot of pieces and parts are, they're working out the taxes, they're working out the tariffs. So, until we kind of get some stability and comments where people actually know what all the tariff landscape is going to look like, you're going to see some ebb and flow on that side as well. So right now, everyone is kind of waiting for some policy with the say, firming up on the tariff side, and I think then that will release. But in the meantime, those are the 2 really hesitant and uncertain. I mean people have had a really hard time forecasting what that's going to be right now. So, just being transparent on what we see out in the market today.