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Procore Technologies, Inc. (PCOR)

Q2 2021 Earnings Call· Sat, Aug 7, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the FY 2021 Q2 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. And as a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Matt Puljiz, Vice President, Investor Relations at Procore. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Matt Puljiz

Analyst

Thanks. Good afternoon, and welcome to Procore's 2021 second quarter earnings call. With me today are Tooey Courtemanche, Founder, President and CEO and Paul Lyandres, CFO. A complete disclosure of our results can be found in our press release issued today, which is available on the Investor Relations section of our website. Today's call is being recorded and a replay will be available following the conclusion of the call. Comments made on this call may include forward-looking statements regarding our financial results, products, customer demand, operations, the impact of COVID-19 on our business and other matters. These statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions and are based on management's current expectations as of today, August 5, 2021, and may not be updated in the future. If this call is replayed or viewed after today, the information presented during the call may not contain current or accurate information. Therefore, these statements should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any subsequent date. We'll also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures to provide additional information to investors. The reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures is provided in our press release. With that, let me turn the call over to Tooey.

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Thanks so much, Matt and hello, everyone. Thank you all for spending time with us today. I'm Tooey Courtemanche, Founder, President and CEO of Procore. I'm happy to be with you today to share my thoughts on our company, our opportunity and our Q2 performance. Given that this is our first earnings call, I'd like to take a moment and provide an overview of the company and the industry that we serve. I've always been passionate about building things. And throughout my career I have straddled two worlds that often felt disconnected, construction and technology. My love for construction started when I was young. In middle school, I had the opportunity to apprentice at a cabinet shop. Then while in high school, I got the chance to work on construction sites as a journeyman carpenter. Then years later, I jumped at the chance to work as a real estate developer before discovering the world of software. Being immersed in the Silicon Valley tech boom inspired me to found my first startup. It showed me firsthand the impact that digital transformation could have on many different industries. Several years later, I found my way back into construction when I started building my own home. I was shocked to discover that despite the sweeping impact technology was having across most sectors that the construction industry still largely relied on manual processes. Across the industry, inefficient practices and costly rework led to uncertain profitability and immense physical waste. That's when I became obsessed, obsessed with the idea of helping to transform the industry that I grew up in and love. I started Procore based on my steadfast belief in the power of connecting people through technology to transform this industry and to improve the lives of everyone in construction. For the past 19…

Paul Lyandres

Analyst

Thanks, Tooey and thank you to everyone for joining us today. First and foremost, I'd like to reiterate Tooey's comments recognizing the entire Procore team for all they've accomplished in our journey to become a public company. Though we are only getting started, without your collective determination and dedication, we wouldn't be here today. I'd also like to welcome and thank our new shareholders. Your partnership goes a long way in helping us transform and support one of the oldest, largest and least digitized industries in the world. As Tooey mentioned earlier, we had a strong quarter in Q2, with solid execution across the business. However, before I talk about the quarter, as this is our first earnings call, I'd like to spend a few minutes outlining Procore's business model and go-to-market. I want to start by reviewing our pricing model because as Tooey mentioned, we see our unlimited user pricing model as a key part of achieving our mission of connecting everyone in construction on a global platform. Unlike many software companies, we do not price based on individual users, we base price on the construction volume that customer will run on our platform, and the mix and number of products that they buy. Not only does this allow for unlimited users to collaborate on a project, but it's also how our industry thinks about their capacity to build, how they buy their insurance, and think about their profits. Once an annual subscription price is determined, we recognize revenues daily over the contract term. We do not charge our customers based on consumption, or on a per project basis. Nearly all of our customers sign-up for annual or multi-year contracts and our revenue is nearly all subscription, providing us with excellent visibility and predictability into the business. We organize…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. For our first question we have Sterling Auty from JPMorgan. Sterling your line is open.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

Thanks. Hi, guys. To get started, you talked about the improving sentiment out of your customers improving pipelines, but then talked about the challenges that they're facing in the supply chain. Are you concerned at all that those supply chain risks may actually start to bubble up and cause projects to get put on hold?

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Hey, Sterling, it's Tooey, yes. No, to answer your question. as you know, I say this all the time I get the chance to talk to our customers every single day and prospects as well. And look, there are some headwinds, definitely supply chain is one, the commodity prices is another. But what's -- what I find so fascinating is pretty much across the board, everyone I talk to has a very positive sentiment, primarily around their backlog. So that's all of the future work that they're going to get. Their biggest challenges that they talk about are staffing. So just finding the right people to do the work, it tends to be the -- what I asked them to force rank their challenges, that seems to be it. But when they talk about their backlog, they're very excited about, the opportunity ahead. And so as you probably know, but I'll explain it to everybody, backlog is future work, the future work has to become shovel ready; it has to actually turn into an actual project before it flows through the Procore. So it leaves us very optimistic about the future. And I do think that these challenges around supply chain and materials pricing are somewhat temporary. And they seem to be getting better. But I'm not a predictor of the future. But again, the sentiment is very positive.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

That's good to hear. And then one follow-up question, Tooey for you. Payments was something that investors during the Roadshow were very interested in. Can you give us a sense of where you see Procore participating in the payments opportunity within the construction industry?

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Absolutely. Well, it's not a matter of if Sterling, it's a matter of when with payments. So what we are, as I mentioned on the Roadshow, this is something that is a priority for Procore. If we have to get it right, so we're taking to take our time, and we're staffing up for it, but just want to set the expectation that it's a -- it's not in any of the models that we've shared with you all and it's but it is coming. I just would say that we're still building the team at this point. And we're looking forward to keep asking the questions and I'll keep giving you the updates.

Operator

Operator

For our next question, we have Saket Kalia from Barclays. Saket, your line is open.

Saket Kalia

Analyst

Okay, great. Hey, guys, thanks for taking my questions here and congrats on becoming a public company.

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Thanks, Saket.

Paul Lyandres

Analyst

Thanks, Saket. Appreciate it.

Saket Kalia

Analyst

Well, hey, maybe first for you, Tooey. Can you just talk a little bit about customer interests across the portfolio? I think the project management part of the businesses has always been popular. But can you just talk a little bit about interest across the other three sort of product families, meaning pre-construction, resource management, financials, maybe just broad brushes?

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Sure. Well, yes, no absolutely. And we've mentioned this before; I think the best way to look at this is by the way, I should say, thank you for asking this question because we are so much more than a project management tool for general contractors. So the way we look at this is, if you looked at any one of those product lines, the older product lines, like project management are going to be bigger businesses, of course, they just been in market longer than the other ones. But the newer ones are, they're still smaller, but they're growing faster. And so the other way to look at it too, is we get kind of pitch-and-hold in project management for general contractors. But when you look at our stakeholders, across owners, general contractors and specialty contractors, the owners, and the specialty contractors businesses are big as well. So we -- I never want to miss the opportunity to explain the breadth of what we're doing. And as you remember, our mission is to connect everyone in construction on a global platform. And so that's why we have this kind of a broad view of everything. Now, I mentioned in the lead end of this that on the financial management side, I would say that that product, we have some exciting announcements that I had mentioned. It definitely is a product that is changing and creating a category. And I'm just kind of heartened by the adoption rates that that product gets.

Saket Kalia

Analyst

That's great. Very helpful. Maybe for my follow-up for you, Paul. It's great to see the billings growth this quarter; I think it was 40%. Can you just talk about just high-level billings as a metric? And what we should sort of keep in mind on that metric in terms of puts and takes or just anything you want us to know about billings as a metric, as we sort of gauge the health of the business?

Paul Lyandres

Analyst

Yes, no I appreciate the question, Saket. We certainly understand that investors are going to use that to evaluate how to think about the quarter. But we do caution them not to overly rely on them. This is not a metric that we manage the business to. It is a metric that is based on invoicing and by nature of that it does have quite a bit of noise, particularly from any quarter-to-quarter period. And it's especially important as you heard me saying the earnings earlier today that there's going to be some atypical compare periods. Remember, Q2 was a really rough period for the industry. And at last year, I should say, and it only got better from there. But because of that, you will see very strange, atypical pairs, and I would caution you all to not overly rely there specifically this year.

Operator

Operator

For the next question, we have Kash Rangan from Goldman Sachs. Kash, your line is open.

Kash Rangan

Analyst

Thank you very much and hearty congratulations on becoming a public company. That's awesome.

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Thanks, Kash.

Kash Rangan

Analyst

One for you, Tooey, thank you, you are most welcome Tooey, one for you, Paul. So Tooey, when you looked, you talked about construction $14 trillion opportunity, I believe in calendar 2025. Broadly, how much of that spending, do you think Procore could target realistically with your current product portfolio just hypothetically, if you will just give more precisely, if you have all the distribution in the world, and you could target the industry, what the product could solve for customers, how much of that spend, do you see as being applicable to Procore? And then also, over the long-term, if I do some rough math, again, it's just monkey math, probably about in that business you got 11,000 plus customers, it will seem to be that you've collected roughly 10, 12, 13 basis points of construction volume, as you expand your value over the long-term, what percentage or how many basis points of the construction spending do you see yourself capturing? So that's for you, Tooey, I know that's a lot, so I'll pause.

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

That's right. Again, great question on that one, Kash. So thank you. So the way Procore has approached solving the problems for the industry is we've always focused on solving the most foundational problems. So when you think about project management and resource management, it was just -- when you think about project management, that is the core, you can't tell me about a project that doesn't require some form of project management. It's that's what the nature of the projects are and resource management allows you to manage your people and financial management allows you to manage your money and precom tools basically lets you plan so very little whitespace in terms of what Procore can address globally in the construction world, which is why we have always stayed so focused on what we're doing. And remember, our business model was made for the industry, we have our unlimited c-license model and the unlimited support for all and it just allows us to provide all of this value to, it doesn't matter, again, if you're an owner, GCs or sub. And I think, in particular, the industry is looking for a provider like Procore, that's focused, that's a single platform and also believes in partnership. And I think that that's, that's essentially the value prop. So yes, what was the second part of that question?

Kash Rangan

Analyst

Yes, over the long-term, how many basis points of a construction project you are seeing you are so being capable of attaching revenue perspective let’s say starting basis, I know we've not published it, but let's say it's 10, 12, 13, or something a fully penetrated client that's got all the sophistication that Procore has to offer? Could you double your relative share of that construction wallet or triple or maybe that's a little bit older system, some feel for how much that wallet share could be long-term? Thank you.

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Yes, Kash. So I would caution you not to create an average because we sell to the high-end of the market, to the low-end of the market, we sell the owners, GCs and subs and so like, it's the averages don't work really well in this math. But I'll let Paul kind of add to that because I know he has something.

Paul Lyandres

Analyst

Yes, the other part to echo to Tooey's sentiment that will skew the averages is the number of products the customer has recall that we are rapidly growing, the number of products our customers had and our own product portfolio, we are rapidly introducing new products. And so while I would say that today, if you just look at the value of what we can get from our customers on top of the core module of project management, it has many multiples, what they -- what we price for project management. At the same time, this is a constant evolution. And I think from our vantage point, we continue to believe that we’re just scratching the surface in terms of the market share, and the wallet share we can capture from a customer.

Kash Rangan

Analyst

Got it, Paul and the question for you was going to be, so you said the sentiment is improving, and people are feeling really good about backlogs coming up later part of this year. In your forecast, are you assuming that kind of improvement -- are you -- or are you looking at, what let them sign-up. And let’s just sign the contract and let them put the construction volume system. And then I'll think about telling Wall Street could replace your numbers. Where are you in that?

Paul Lyandres

Analyst

I think we are constantly trying to evaluate what's going on the industry and be thoughtful. I do think that we look at the sentiment; we look at the leading indicators that you all see in the public domain. And we believe that that optimism will continue. Now at the same time, I will remind everyone that our industry is massive, and it does take time for things to move. And so we like to think of it more as an oil tanker and not a speedboat. And so we're being very cautious and thoughtful about the rate of that expansion. But we do believe that the sentiment is a good indicator of where the market is going.

Operator

Operator

For the next question, we have DJ Hynes from Canaccord. DJ, your line is open.

DJ Hynes

Analyst

Hey guys, good start here. Congrats on the IPO and everything that's happened since. Tooey, I want to ask you about the product roadmap as it pertains to the immense data asset you have. And I'm going to leave it intentionally open ended, like what are some of the most interesting things you could do with all the data that you see that you're not doing today?

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Sure. Well, I love that you brought that up, because I think as you and I have spoken in the past about the data is a tremendous asset, both for our customers as we're able to reflect it back and allow them to make great decisions through insights and run better businesses. But it does provide the ability for us to look at the industry in a much broader way and then to utilize this data. We have 1.6 million users plus on our platform, generating a ton of structured data like bidding and quality and safety and materials and labor costs. You think about labor productivity is a big one, so who knows more about how construction gets done in Procore. And so yes, there are a lot of opportunities. I don't really want to speculate on all of the future things that we can do with it. But the real value DJ is the fact that we do know about we know about materials, we know about labor, we know about true costs, and it really let's get me fired up. As I mentioned on the Roadshow, it's one of the areas where I'm spending a lot of my time and really, really kind of the exciting future for Procore.

DJ Hynes

Analyst

Yes, yes, I can imagine, makes sense. And then, Paul, just a quick follow-up for you. You mentioned some of the atypical compares, as we look backwards in the calendar 2020. Can you just talk about like seasonality in customer adds? Are there any quarters or times of year that are stronger or weaker for Procore that we should be aware of?

Paul Lyandres

Analyst

In general, I think we follow a pretty typical dynamic to our peers in the SAS industry, where we have stronger Q4s, in general, I wouldn't say there's any broad seasonality that I would point to. This for me when I talk about atypical is much more reflection of COVID-19 and how that impacted 2020 than it is to say, a standard kind of seasonality that we see in our own business.

Operator

Operator

For the next question, we have Brent Thill from Jefferies. Brent, your line is open.

Brent Thill

Analyst

Thanks. Paul, as it relates to this last quarter, it looks like you had a really good expansion quarter. Looking at the numbers, I was just curious if you could unpack what was due to volume coming back, versus selling additional Procore products and then had a quick follow-up for Tooey.

Paul Lyandres

Analyst

Yes, it really is a combination of them both. When we go out to our new customers, we are having a broad conversation with them about their needs, their own growth plans, and how we can be a partner to them. Really, when we think about it, we don't technically break it down by those two dynamics, as much as we try to partner with our customers and do the best we can. Tooey had said, definitely we're pleased with our attach rates in the financial management product. But frankly, we continue to see great traction across our broader product portfolio, as well, as I'd said that our customers are starting to see that optimism and that sentiment is translating to them, expanding their vision on what they will do in the coming year around volume. So it really was a combination of both.

Brent Thill

Analyst

And Tooey, you've been very clear that the vast majority of your TAM lives outside the U.S. but today's only 14% of revenue, how hard do you want to be on that approach to capture that international opportunity maybe back to the Pulse Supertanker versus I forgot the other word to use.

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Speedboat.

Brent Thill

Analyst

But thinking about speedboat yes, so I guess you're maybe that that supertanker analogy apply to the international push?

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Well, I think when just to clarify what Paul's talking about the super, the oil tanker is really just the speed in which once the economy is starting to spend on construction or ingredients, the amount of time it takes for those dollars to become active projects and flow through Procore. So just to be clear, but when I think about international expansion, which you're right, it kind of depends on how you slice the data. But you can make the argument that 90% of every construction dollar spent are outside of the United States, we definitely take it seriously. In fact, I would like to callout for Q2, our international team really performed well, and it's something that another area of the business I'm very proud of. We believe that our strategies starts with establishing beachheads in regional areas that are going to allow us to go and our approach has always been Brent, we want to -- we don't want to dabble, right, we're not going to go in and just try to sell some software, when we go into a market is very intentional, and we go deep, but we're establishing these beachheads because first and foremost, construction is very hyperlocal. So it allows us to get closer to the buyer and the customer. And number one and number two is it gives us the ability to expand into those regions. And I think you've heard me say it before, but opening up the UAE and Singapore in Q2 is just another example of the kind of the pace in which we're going and like I said, we're trying to do quality over quantity, but you're going to see more in the coming quarters.

Operator

Operator

For the next question we have Brent Bracelin from Piper Sandler. Brent, your line is open.

Brent Bracelin

Analyst

Thank you and good afternoon, guys. I want to drill down into international a little bit more Tooey. I know it's only 40% of business. But as you think about the -- how the internationals developing, what have you learned in the last couple of years? Is it kind of developing faster, you're talking about them in this quarter, love to just understand the pace of change there in light of kind of the post-COVID and the type of business? And then too for Paul, I'd love to see if you could just breakout the momentum of the business, the recovery, how much of it's driven on the commercial side versus on the corporate side? Is there any delineation on the pace of recovery by segment? That's really the two questions I had. Thanks.

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Got it, Brent. So on the international front, I would say that learnings over the last few years have been that the fact that we again are focused on the foundational challenges of building means that our product lines translate very nicely into each market that we go into. I mean, everybody has to manage schedules, everyone has to manage budgets, everyone has to manage people, everyone has to coordinate their projects. And so it fits very nicely with our product offering today. And so it's really been more about the rate of adoption of technology in countries, some countries feel like maybe the U.S. did like four or five years ago. Other countries, in some cases are ahead. And what's really cool, Brent is really, depending on what the regulatory environments are, like in each one of those countries, there the needs might be a little bit more sophisticated or advanced. But when we build features, or we configure the tool through our configuration tools to work for those countries, we find that the other countries that we're selling in value that but they just haven't gotten the regulatory requirements up and running yet. So we've been, I think the learnings are that, constructions construction, regardless of where you go in a lot of ways, and we're still focusing on the foundational needs of the industry, therefore the adoption rate has been, it's been very nice.

Brent Bracelin

Analyst

Helpful color and great to see some early wins there and some large enterprise wins. And then Paul, just as you think about the breakdown of the momentum and recovery here and kind of reopening tailwinds, is a difference between kind of commercial and corporate or any color there you could give us, as you think about what part of the business is kind of recovering faster than the others?

Paul Lyandres

Analyst

Yes, I think it's one of the great things about our industry and one of the benefits of our businesses that when we think about our customers and the type of work that they do, they span commercial, industrial, residential. What we saw in COVID was that when a particular segment of the industry of the construction industry struggled, that our customers went out and really bid out work in the parts of the industry that we're doing well. Today, when we look at that recovery, we still find the dynamic to be similar where our customers are going and winning business where the demand is, and you see the same public data we do. It's certainly not linear across every sub segment of the industry. But we do believe that there will be growth across those different markets and that our customers will benefit and as growth varies from segment to segment, our customers will react and we will be there with them.

Operator

Operator

For the next question, we have Bhavan Suri from William Blair. Bhavan, your line is open.

Bhavan Suri

Analyst

Absolutely it’s pleasure. I want to touch a little bit on the network effect that we've got, we've talked about sort of the pre-users. And I'd love to dig into like the go-to-market to monetize them. But what specific tactics, you guys doing sort of there, I’ve got so many users under Title network, but how do I start monetizing? How do you think about that?

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Yes, so and we talked a little bit about this on the Roadshow, which is 60% of our users on the platform today are what we call collaborators, right. And this is really what you're talking about is, if a general contractor is a customer of Procore, and they bring on all their specialty contractors, those folks are engaged on our platform and see the value and Procore and so thus, are likely to want to become Procore customers, because they face a lot of the same needs. So, there's a lot of different ways for us to address this. We know definitely who's in the application, we have a lot of ways of knowing like who to talk to, the beauty is that a lot of times people just see the value of Procore by using it, and they pick up the phone and call us. So and I know Paul would love to add to this.

Paul Lyandres

Analyst

Yes, I think the one thing I'd add Bhavan is this is something we're already seeing today. So when we look at a number of the new users that come or the new customers, I should say that come to Procore, these are folks who have been collaborators in the past and whether they came to us through our marketing channels, through our direct sales efforts, referrals, there's certainly still opportunity to optimize how we touch, how we find them in the moment of need. But we would say this is an area that has certainly contributed to our growth and something that's still early days and a huge opportunity to continue to convert those collaborators to paying customers et cetera.

Bhavan Suri

Analyst

Got you. Got you. And then let's touch on competition just a little bit. Rather than sort of partnership/competition with many providers replace, always kind of linked with you to get the data but a lot of them sort of are trying to do stuff in the field, trying to take piece of it. I'd love to get an update on the competitive environments. Your friends at Oracle keep touting Cloud Primavera, which is I'm just going to laugh about it. But let's talk about some of the newer guys or guys are actually sitting in the periphery that is sort of navigating to the core, never going to be, you're looking for a system that is either on the edge of it a little bit. How do you see them? How do you see that love to get an update there? Thank you.

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Yes, Bhavan, I'm sorry, and you're a little hard to hear, but I think I got it in particular. So just to remind everybody at the highest level, the opportunity in the marketplace is still Greenfield, there's such a huge massive opportunity, $14 trillion by 2025. And so -- and then when we look at just how we, if you're getting to competitive win rates, things have not changed very much in the last few years. And our focus still remains on solving the kind of the foundational challenges. But when it comes to what you were talking about -- about the -- how those folks interact with us. The funny thing is that the people that you were talking about, they a lot of them have integrations with Procore. They're part of the 300 partners in our app marketplace. So it's kind of a frenemy type thing, maybe in a certain way, but in general like the partners that we have in the at marketplace are solving discrete needs that our customers need in order to get construction done. And if you take anything away from any of this, it's number one is the industry is huge. And number two is the needs of the industry are so big, because it's so broken. And it's so complicated, that there's a lot of opportunity out there for all of us.

Operator

Operator

For the next question we have Tom Roderick from Stifel. Tom, your line is open.

Tom Roderick

Analyst

Hi, Tooey, hi Paul. Great to hear from you. Congratulations on a great first quarter out of the gates here. Just started with a question here, that was a great one, I thought that just about, some of the labor shortages and the cost of raw materials going up. And if that was perhaps maybe slowing some projects, I guess I can want to turn that question on to, just a little bit and think about the ripple through effect of perhaps the impacts of some of those costs going up impacting construction volume itself, the size and dollar volumes of projects that have naturally have to go higher, to sort of match the dreaded inflation word a little bit. So two questions I'd ask you around that a) is that a positive dynamic to the business model at all, just the ripple through effect on construction volumes and project volumes. And then b) is there anything you're doing with your customers to sort of, rightsize that, I know last year in the middle of the pandemic, you worked with your customers to be flexible on that front in a tough time? And is there a way to sort of work with them now in a way that construction volumes are going up? And kind of curious how you're managing through that process?

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Yes, so there's a lot in there. But yes, in general, when we talk about the challenges with supply chain and material costs, you would think that that would have a material impact on most folks backlog. Now, I have heard -- you hear the stories about this project was postponed or delayed because of material costs. But that doesn't mean that the backlogs still aren't getting are big and getting bigger. And I'm trying not to overstate it. But there's a lot of optimism about the projects that are in the pipeline. And kind of to what you alluded to Procore does price on construction volume. So that I suppose might have some sort of an impact. But the -- I think the worst is behind us in terms of what we saw during COVID, which was Q2 of last year, and it's been, industry has been getting better quarter-over-quarter. So I would say we're having less and less of those kinds of conversations today. Paul, do you want to add anything?

Paul Lyandres

Analyst

Yes, I would just reinforce what Tooey had said, it certainly creates uncertainty and challenges for our customers. But the industry is incredibly resilient. And they continue to find ways to work through and partner with their collaborators to get projects done. And we're there to be a partner. And so as these different dynamics evolve, we will certainly work with our customers. And if prices go up, it does drive construction volume up. But we believe more that the long-term benefits here for our industry is that the industry has to grow because population growth, because we need to rebuild our aging infrastructure. And that in general, we just are very bullish about construction volumes over the long-term being the thing to focus on.

Tom Roderick

Analyst

Yes, makes perfect sense. It's helpful. And Tooey, you're pretty darn clear on the topic of payments being a matter of when not if, as you evaluate the way to kind of get that onto the platform and get that into the hands of your customers. Do you think that's something that can sort of be fairly easily integrated through M&A activity? Is that a tuck-in or is that something you'd be really committed to building from the ground-up with them?

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Well, I don't want to lead too much on this one. But if you think about what our financial management solution does, from the tracking the budget, to the contracts, to the change orders, to the invoicing, the natural next step is -- is payments of course. So it’s an area where we’re putting a lot of focus and I suppose you could answer the question. There are a lot of -- people get really fixated on the payment section. But in order to make a payment you have to be in compliance and so there is a lot of pieces that go into getting somebody paid in construction through lean waiver management and making sure people have insurance and there's just a lot of details that have to happen. So I guess I can answer the question, there is probably a mix in there. But ultimately, we will get to the point where we are providing the payments platform.

Tom Roderick

Analyst

Excellent. We will standby for more news on that. But thank you both for the details, it looks great.

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Thanks, Tom.

Paul Lyandres

Analyst

Thanks, Tom.

Operator

Operator

That's our last question for today. I would now like to turn the call over to Matt Puljiz. Thank you. Please continue.

Matt Puljiz

Analyst

Thanks everyone for joining us and we hope to see you all at Groundbreak. Thanks again.

Tooey Courtemanche

Analyst

Thanks everyone.

Operator

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.