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Douglas Dynamics, Inc. (PLOW)

Q1 2022 Earnings Call· Tue, May 3, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Douglas Dynamics First Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to hand the conference over to Sarah Lauber, Chief Financial Officer.

Sarah Lauber

Analyst · Baird

Thank you. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that some of the comments that will be made during this conference call, including answers to your questions, will constitute forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks that could cause actual results to be materially different. Those risks include, among others, matters that we have described in yesterday's press release and in our filings with the SEC. Joining me on the call today is Bob McCormick, our President and Chief Executive Officer. In a moment, Bob will provide an overview of our performance, then I'll review our financial results and guidance. After that, we'll open the call for your questions. With that, I'll hand the call to Bob.

Bob McCormick

Analyst · Baird

Thanks, Sarah. Good morning, everyone. Our first quarter performance and net expectations as we continue to navigate through the same challenges we've been facing in recent quarters. While external conditions aren't improving yet, and we haven't seen any new curve balls recently. Net sales were essentially flat compared to the record results for the same period last year, with higher pricing at both segments, offset by lower volumes. We had a return way more typical first quarter in attachments versus the tremendously profitable first quarter we delivered last year, driven by a concentrated snowfall in February 2021. We did not expect to repeat this snowfall-driven performance. We've experienced solar production volumes in the Solutions Segment this quarter, stemming from chassis and component shortages, which haven't yet started to impact us in first quarter 2021. Pandemic-related absenteeism [Indiscernible] generally in line with the country and local markets. Omicron had an impact in the first quarter, but we have learned to manage through such surge as well. Very proud of our team for maintaining their focus on pandemic safety for more than 2 years now. We continue to demonstrate flexibility and creativity as we strive to deliver for our customers every day. We're very pleased with the demand outlook in both segments, setting us up for long-term success. Our headwinds remain the same and don't seem to be getting any worse. First, supply chain disruption and come falling shortages. We expect the situation to stabilize in the coming months and slowly start to improve later this year. We've been monitoring the latest pandemic disruptions in China carefully. The majority of our supply partners are in provinces outside of those spacing lockdowns. So we're not overly concerned at this point. Second, material price inflation remains a factor. We are now recapturing price and…

Sarah Lauber

Analyst · Baird

Thanks, Bob. Overall, our performance this quarter was in line with our expectations. To provide some context, it's important to remember that the first quarter is our seasonal levels. It typically accounts for only 10% of attachment to annual net sales. And as we level set our costs across the year, it often results in not turning a profit in the quarter, as is the case this year. Our results also have a tough comparison to the record consolidated results in the first quarter of 2021. However, it was really the first quarter of 2021 that was the anomaly. As a reminder, our business has rebounded as we exited the first phase of the pandemic, combined with robust snowfall in February '21 that created massive demand for parts and accessories, plus the supply chain constraints had not yet taken hold. These factors combined for unusually strong performance in both segments, producing record first quarter results that we did not expect to repeat going into this year. With that said, let me walk through the numbers for the first quarter of 2022. On a consolidated basis, we delivered net sales of $102.6 million and gross profit of $21.1 million compared to net sales of $103.3 million and gross profit of $26.3 million during last year. Net sales were essentially flat due to higher pricing at both segments, offsetting lower volumes. SG&A expenses, including amortization expense, were $24 million compared to $22.6 million during the first quarter of 2021. The increase was largely due to higher labor costs as well as a return to more normalized marketing spent, both at attachments. We recorded GAAP net loss of $3.9 million or negative $0.18 per diluted share compared to a GAAP net income of $742,000 or $0.03 per diluted share in 2021. On an…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Timothy Wojs with Baird.

Timothy Wojs

Analyst · Baird

Hey, everybody, good morning. My name is Ben Butcher before, but that's definitely the first. So maybe just to start off on the solutions business, just it doesn't seem like anything's really changed in terms of your view on the year and chassis supply and things like that. Just, I guess I wanted to confirm that. And I know you're not really kind of fully controlled the supply, but kind of any update on kind of what you've heard by various classes?

Bob McCormick

Analyst · Baird

Yes, I think it's a fair conclusion, Tim, that we're not seeing any significant change. As Sarah mentioned, when we entered 2022, the OEMs were sending signals to expect the full year '22 chassis supply to be pretty equal to 2021, but almost kind of flipped a little bit, right? In 2021, we didn't really see some of the chip issues surface until second half of the year. So deliveries were stronger in the front half, got a little softer in the back half. And we're seeing a little softer in the front half of '22 with projections to slowly start to improve in the second half of 2022. So that's still the thesis that we have. We haven't heard anything plus or minus to that statement from the OEMs at this point.

Timothy Wojs

Analyst · Baird

Okay. Okay. That's good. And then just -- I know it's small numbers, so maybe there's some mass things to it. But I mean, the profitability in the quarter in Solutions was the strongest it's been in the last 3 or 4 quarters. So is that just a reflection of just getting the business right sized for the current volume environment? Or is there some mix element? Just anything there that could kind of give us a little bit of color on that?

Sarah Lauber

Analyst · Baird

I would say there are probably 2 significant items that have shown sequential improvement in Q1. One is, as you know, it's more difficult getting price into the market in our Solutions businesses. And so now here we are after a full year of steadily increasing price, we're delivering on some of those. So now we're seeing more of that come through. The second item, which we're really pleased with is the hard work on the Solutions team from the standpoint of getting variable cost out, continuing to work on our DDMS initiative. We have the 2 IDC closures that we talked about on the last call at Henderson. So there are some cost structure initiatives that are taking hold that we expect to continue to show improvement on as we go throughout the year.

Timothy Wojs

Analyst · Baird

And then I guess on the Attachments business, is there any way to think about the pricing contribution versus the volume contribution in the quarter? And I noticed you didn't say anything about inflation impacting margins there. So are we kind of to read that that -- meaning you're in a good spot on price cost and the attachment business going forward?

Sarah Lauber

Analyst · Baird

Yes, when it comes to price and attachments, Q1, we covered the inflation. We were really pleased last year when we closed out the year. And as a company, we covered the inflation in total. That trend continued into the first quarter, which is great. What I can say about the magnitude of the price is we've had double-digit pricing going into the market. That's all in, in the first quarter. So certainly well up over double digits is related to price.

Timothy Wojs

Analyst · Baird

And then I've got one more. Just on the back I know it's kind of a small amount, $3 million, but it's obviously one of your weaker free cash flow quarters. And so I'm just trying to think about how you're thinking about the buyback, especially with the stock sitting here at $30 this morning?

Sarah Lauber

Analyst · Baird

Yes. I mean the way we're thinking about the buyback, one is another tool in the toolbox that we thought was great to bring into the fold. And we really wanted from a minimum buyback perspective on an annual basis to cover the equity that we have in our compensation plan. So you can call that $6 million that's kind of the low that we would like to do. And then we're going to be looking at our free cash flow generation and what we expect in the back half of the year to make any decisions on further buybacks. So essentially, we just are starting down that path with what we bought back in the first quarter.

Operator

Operator

And we have our second question. Our next question from Mike Shlisky of D.A. Davidson.

Mike Shlisky

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Sarah, your last comment in your prepared statement about 2023 were interesting. It sounded like what you've been hearing so far is mostly from an industry volume top line perspective for 2023. I was wondering if you could give me a little bit more commentary about how Douglas finance [Indiscernible] about 2023. Do you feel like you're on the right path to additional share gains next year in the non-truck attachment business? And from a margin perspective in March 2019 as well?

Sarah Lauber

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

I'm trying to dissect all of that question. It was a little choppy, Mike. So the comment of 2023 compared to 2019 was really a supply chain comment, which is getting back to what were expected for chassis flow, which then should give us the opportunity to get at the backlog that has just continually grown, which should translate pretty well to the fall through to EBITDA. I think you went somewhere on attachments with non-truck. Could you repeat that if you do?

Mike Shlisky

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Yes. I was just curious to see. I mean -- I think the broader question was holistically is your feel on EBITDA and earnings similar to 2019, coming to 2023, just holistically speaking, attachment, non-truck, solutions, and your margin performance potential [Indiscernible].

Sarah Lauber

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

I would love to say that we're getting back to 2019 record year performance. There's just the moving pieces and the headwinds are too many between now and the start of '23 for me to be able to constantly make that statement. There's too many items that are really outside of our control. There's nothing structurally in the business. I would say that we couldn't get there. It really is going to be very dependent on supply and many of the other things we're navigating through.

Bob McCormick

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Yes, I think I would just add -- I would add to that, Sarah's point is spot on. When chassis flow again, like they did in 2019, that 2019 performance is clearly in our sights. We've done so many things to improve the business over the past 2 years, whether it's new product development initiatives that have launched or will be launched, whether it's as Sarah commented earlier about some of the productivity DDMS improvement initiatives, some of the adjustments to our fixed cost structure, some of the cost reduction programs to drive variable costs down. All those things are in play in 2023, and we're part of our 2019 performance. So if we can get -- once this chassis thing gets back on a historical pace, we feel very good about our go-forward prospects.

Mike Shlisky

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Can we maybe just come back to the present day. Can you maybe compare and contrast for us the chassis supply differences today between Henderson, I mean Dejana and attachments? Who's in the lead currently, who's behind? Are there any nuances between each of those 3 areas?

Sarah Lauber

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Specific to supply chain?

Mike Shlisky

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Yes, for chassis supply. Of the heavy truck or the media with the light duties, which ones doing the best, which ones doing the worst correctly?

Bob McCormick

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Well, I think I would give kudos to all of our sourcing teams for how they're navigating through these crazy times. If you just think about it logically, Mike, on the Work Truck Solutions side, where you are sourcing multiple different components to build a work truck. It's certainly 3 and 4 dimensional chests for those folks. On the Attachment side, where you're building more of a stack product, you still face the same challenges just not to the same magnitude. So we are feeling even past chassis. We are feeling the impact of supply chain constraints more so on the solutions side and on the attachment side, has nothing to do with the performance of the teams, has everything to do with the business model and the sheer complexity of the products we have to source.

Mike Shlisky

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Okay. That makes sense. And maybe one last one for me. Could you maybe comment, Bob, on how did NTEA go for you in general for both segments? Any large new order leads or interesting learning from the show you could share with us?

Bob McCormick

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Yes, I think it was -- first off, there was excitement in the air, I think, just to be face-to-face again after 2 years of having to show shut down. We had some new products there. On the attachment side, you've heard us talk about our non-truck offerings a little bit more. Those are more of a growth avenue for us, and those were pretty well received. And on the solutions side, I think the most important thing there was just talking to dealers and customers about how they feel demand is going to continue to be strong going forward. So it really kind of walked down in there with the confirmation of how solid we think that our long-term prospects are. That was probably the biggest takeaway for me.

Operator

Operator

And our next question from Chris McGinnis with Sidoti.

Chris McGinnis

Analyst · Sidoti

I guess just -- if you said this, I apologize, I may have missed it. Just any notable difference in terms of the cadence of pre-season for 2022 versus '21? I guess maybe just to start there with a quick question.

Bob McCormick

Analyst · Sidoti

Yes. It's a little early yet. We had this conversation a couple of days ago. Do we have a feel yet for what the Q2, Q3 shipment mix is going to turn out to be, and we just don't have enough data yet. We can tell you that on the April order book, we have seen orders generally a little higher than our estimates on a dealer-by-dealer basis, which means we're off to a great start. As I said earlier, inventories are in great shape out. The field dealer sentiment is positive. The end users are still having record performance years on the green side, and that's translating into them spending more money during the winter months. So we're pretty bullish about what the pre-season is going to hold for us. There may be -- maybe I'll let Sarah comment on this. One of the watch items for us here is a stronger than anticipated pre-season possibly could include some pull ahead from the fourth quarter. Sara, do you want to comment on that a little bit?

Sarah Lauber

Analyst · Sidoti

Well, I'd start by answering your question first Chris, not with anything specific. But to say when you look at 2020, the pre-season split where we split plus and we were heavier in the third quarter. We expect this year to be much closer to typical -- closer to the '21 kind of split with Q2-Q3. If anything, more level with Q2 being higher, but as Bob said, a little too early to tell. I think to comment on the market dynamics that Bob is mentioning, and again, it's probably too early to tell. But with the strength that we're seeing in pre-season and all the inflation that's out there, the pricing that's out there, the news that's out there with difficulty to secure supply. There is a bit of a question mark on the demand and whether or not any of the pre-season orders would impact fourth quarter demand with dealers getting in and knocking in more of their supply potentially. We don't have any support to say that, that's absolutely affect, but it is something we're going to be keeping a close eye on and more to come as we navigate through the year.

Chris McGinnis

Analyst · Sidoti

I appreciate that color. I was going to leave with another question of asking. You think inflation can pull forward, and it sounds like that could be a factor just -- it's too early to tell. So I appreciate that. I guess just given the supply chain constraints around components. Does it make you kind of reset the backward integration initiative you have in place to maybe making some of those components so that you're not as dependent on those suppliers that you're working with? I was just wondering if you could talk about that.

Bob McCormick

Analyst · Sidoti

Well, sure. I mean it's a secondary benefit of that strategy for sure, Chris. Most of the initial project work that we're doing there is focused on products that will allow us to drive revenue growth. So products we can eventually take to the market that are more productive, more efficient, more reliable and more durable than the goods that we purchased on the outside before. And the point you're making is valid, right? I mean we can get to a point in this multiple year strategy where we end up looking at just basic everyday components that we think we can build and not just do it a little lower cost, but also maybe focus on those areas where the supply lines are long or where we feel that the market for those components just isn't as reliable as we would like it to be. That's an excellent point.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over back to Bob McCormick, President and CEO.

Bob McCormick

Analyst · Baird

I'd like to thank you for your time today and would love to leave you with a couple of thoughts. We're encouraged with where both segments stand today and certainly encouraged about Douglas' long-term prospects. Our Q1 results were in line with expectations and demand trends remain very positive. While we look forward to the macroeconomic headwinds subsiding, we are constantly working to improve our operations, so we will be better positioned and more efficient, but we do see the situation improve. We are reiterating our guidance and continue to manage through the short term while maintaining focus on achieving our long-term strategic objectives. We thank you for your time today and look forward to seeing you in person in the coming months.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.