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Prospect Capital Corporation (PSEC)

Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Fri, May 8, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Prospect Capital Corporation Third Fiscal Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to John Barry, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

John Francis Barry

Analyst

Thank you very much, Denise. Joining me on the call today as in past calls are Grier Eliasek, our President and Chief Operating Officer; and Brian Oswald, our Chief Financial Officer. Brian?

Brian Oswald

Analyst · MLV & Company. Please go ahead

Thanks, John. This call is the property of Prospect Capital Corporation. Unauthorized use is prohibited. This call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the securities laws that are intended to be subject to Safe Harbor protection. Actual outcomes and results could differ materially from those forecasts due to the impact of many factors. We do not undertake to update our forward-looking statements unless required by law. For additional disclosure, see our earnings press release, our 10-Q, and our corporate presentation filed previously and available on the Investor Relations tab on our website, prospectstreet.com. Now I’ll turn the call back over to John.

John Francis Barry

Analyst

Thank you, Brian. Our net investment income or NII in the March quarter was $87.4 million or $0.24 per share. Our net income was $81.5 million or $0.23 per share, a decrease in structuring fees due to lower origination levels and a mix shift toward online loans, which do not have structuring fees but which are currently delivering an expected levered yield of approximately 18%, drove year-over-year differences. In December, we suspended our at the market equity issuances for the indefinite future due to unattractive share price levels. This reduction in equity and asset growth has resulted in lower origination volumes compared to prior periods. Our recurring interest income mix in the March quarter was a record 97%, up from 82% a year-ago, reflecting the high quality of our earnings stream, independent of non-recurring fee income. As a tax efficient regulated investment company our shareholder dividend payout requirement is based on taxable income rather than GAAP net investment income. Taxable income can be coupled meaningfully from such net investment income. In the December quarter, we generated taxable income of $93.7 million or $0.26 per share, a $0.01 per share more than our recently declared dividends. While regulated investment companies may utilize spill-back dividends in the subsequent tax year to count toward prior-year distribution requirements, taxable income consistently in excess of dividends enhances the possibility of future special dividends in order to maintain regulated investment company status. As described in detail in our release our CLO business generates higher taxable income which roughly tracks cash income, then GAAP income on a recurring basis throughout the life of each CLO. Our CLO business performance has significantly exceeded our underwriting expectations, demonstrating the benefits of pursuing majority stakes, working with world class management teams, providing strong collateral underwriting through primary issuance and focusing…

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead with your question

Thank you, John. Our business continues to grow at a solid and prudent pace. Prospect has scaled to over $7 billion of assets and undrawn credit. Our team has reached approximately 100 professionals representing one of the largest dedicated middle-market credit groups in the industry. With our scale, longevity, experience and deep bench, we continue to focus on a diversified investment strategy that covers third-party private equity sponsor-related lending, direct non-sponsor lending, Prospect sponsored operating buyouts, Prospect sponsored financial buyouts, CLO structured credit, real estate yield investing, online lending, aircraft leasing and syndicated lending. At March 31, our controlled investments at fair value stood at 27.7% of our portfolio. This diversity allows us to source a broad range and high volume of opportunities, then select in a disciplined bottoms up manner the opportunities we deem to be the most attractive on a risk-adjusted basis. Our team typically evaluates thousands of opportunities annually and invests in a disciplined manner in a low single-digit percentage of such opportunities. Prospect’s originations in recent months have been well diversified across our nine origination strategies. Prospect originated nearly $3.2 billion of closed investments during the 2014 calendar year. Our non-bank structure gives us the flexibility to invest in multiple levels of the corporate capital stack, with a preference for secured lending and senior loans. At March 31, our portfolio at fair value consisted of 55.6% first lien, 19.4% second lien, 16.6% CLO structured credit with underlying first lien assets, 0.6% small business whole loan, 1.4% unsecured debt and 6.4% equity investments resulting in 92.2% of our investments being assets with underlying secured debt benefiting from borrower pledged collateral. Prospect’s approach is one that generates attractive risk adjusted yields and our debt investments were generating an annualized yield of 12.4% as of March 31, an increase…

Brian Oswald

Analyst · MLV & Company. Please go ahead

Thanks, Grier. We believe our prudent leverage, diversified access to matched-book funding, substantial majority of unencumbered assets, and weighting towards unsecured fixed rate debt demonstrate both balance sheet strength, as well as substantial liquidity to capitalize on attractive opportunities. Our company has locked in a ladder of fixed-rate liabilities extending approximately 30 years into the future, while most of our loans float with LIBOR providing potential upside to shareholders as interest rates rise. We’re a leader and innovator in our marketplace. We were the first company in our industry to issue a convertible bond, conduct an ATM program, develop a notes program, issue an institutional bond, and acquire a competitor, as we did with Patriot Capital. Shareholders and unsecured creditors alike should appreciate the thoughtful approach differentiated in our industry, which we have taken towards construction of the right-hand side of our balance sheet. As of March 2015, we held more than $5.1 billion of our assets as unencumbered assets, representing approximately 76% of our portfolio. The remaining assets are pledged to Prospect Capital Funding LLC, which has a AA rated $885 million revolver with 22 banks and with a $1.5 billion total size accordion feature at our option. The revolver is priced at LIBOR plus 225 basis points and revolves until March 2019, followed by a one-year amortization with interest distributions continuing to be allowed to us. Outside of our revolver and benefiting from our unencumbered assets, we’ve issued at Prospect Capital Corporation multiple types of investment grade unsecured debt, including convertible bonds, a baby bond, institutional bonds and program notes. All these types of unsecured debt unsecured debt have no financial covenants, no asset restrictions, and no cross defaults with our revolver. We enjoy a BBB rating from S&P and a BBB+ rating from Kroll. We’ve now tapped…

John Francis Barry

Analyst

Thank you, Brian. I think we can open the line for questions now.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from Terry Ma of Barclays. Please go ahead with your question.

Terry Ma

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead with your question

Hey, guys. Can you maybe just give us a little bit more color on your equity positions? It looks like some of them were marked up significantly and maybe can you talk about the color specifically?

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead with your question

Sure. We had significant rights [ph] evaluation in the last quarter in our consumer finance businesses, as well as our real estate business. And as I said in our prepared remarks and we’ve said elsewhere, we think this is very much the year of the consumer compared to many other prior years, you are seeing a stronger consumer wallet in general out there. And that’s translating on the consumer financial services side into declining delinquencies and declining charge-offs really across the board in our installment businesses as well as our auto finance business. And then that’s helping on the multi-family residential side, which dominates our real estate business with an improvement in rents and a reduction in occupancy, all of which are helping to drive valuation. In addition to that, you’ve seen cap rate compression, helping out valuation on the real estate side and you’ve seen continued strong robustness of valuation of consumer financial assets, which, of course, is a significant logic and driver for both our online spin, as well as our real estate spin. Does that help Terry?

Terry Ma

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead with your question

Yes, it does. You talked about - you closed your first sale of a lower-yielding asset in June. Can you maybe just give us a sense of how much additional opportunity there is to sell lower-yielding assets in the next couple of months?

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead with your question

Quite a lot. I think we’ve only sold approximately 10% or so, a little bit less of the approximately three-quarters of $1 billion of 5% to 7% low- yielding assets on our balance sheet. And it took us several months to figure out the right way to structure those sales from an accounting standpoint, from a legal standpoint, but now that, we figured that out. We have a growing stable of buyers for those assets and we intend on continuing with the portfolio optimization to sell those lower-yielding assets and then redeploy into much higher yielding assets, ideally at our weighted average yield, which in the past quarter was about 12.5%. So we view that as a meaningful earnings driver for the future. It doesn’t show up in the March quarter, of course, because we just sold the first one here in the June quarter. We expect for that pace to pick up in the coming weeks and months.

Terry Ma

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead with your question

Okay, got it. Thank you. That’s it from me.

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead with your question

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Christopher Nolan of MLV & Company. Please go ahead.

Christopher Nolan

Analyst · MLV & Company. Please go ahead

Hey, guys. Grier, for the online lending, what is the unlevered yield for those loans?

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · MLV & Company. Please go ahead

Chris, it’s approximately 10% to 11% in that range, weighted average.

Christopher Nolan

Analyst · MLV & Company. Please go ahead

I mean, you made the comments, am I misheard that you are looking to ramp up the online loans? Will all the incremental loans you put on, will those be rolled over into the spun out entity or are you thinking about doing online loans after the spin in the Prospect Capital vehicle?

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · MLV & Company. Please go ahead

Sure. And I want to clarify, I was quoting returns net of expected losses, which is how we think about everything in that business, not just [Multiple Speakers]

Brian Oswald

Analyst · MLV & Company. Please go ahead

And also across the entire book.

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · MLV & Company. Please go ahead

Across the entire book.

Brian Oswald

Analyst · MLV & Company. Please go ahead

Not differentiated according to origination source.

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · MLV & Company. Please go ahead

Correct. That’s the weighted average; prime loans unlevered net of losses will be in the high single-digits and near prime will be a few hundred basis points above what it is quoted. To answer your question about the spin-off, what we’re anticipating doing is spinning off our consumer business to have a pure consumer focused company and for that spin to be in its entirety for the consumer book, which makes the most sense from a regulatory standpoint, because we have bank facilities that - right now we have three bank facilities and we’re planning on having two securitizations in the next several weeks as well. And it would be pretty awkward to do a partial spin. From an equity standpoint, the consumer book is about $325 million give or take of assets and our equity is in the $150-ish million range and growing. So between that and dry powder, there we want to make available to that type of business that’s growing rapidly. Yes, you’d want to spend the entirety of it to make sure you’ve got good critical mass, as well as visibility on additional cash to ramp. The small business lending activity, which we have, which is considerably smaller than consumer right now in the range of just under $50 million approximately. Right now, we envision that staying at Prospect Capital Corporation for a couple of different - for different reasons, one, it helps to enhance the pure play story to have a consumer-focused business being spun as opposed as to something also doing small business we think. Number two, small business loans are 70% basket assets different from consumer loans. So, we actually think they fit just fine within a BDC structure. Number three, most of the small business lending out there, you have personal guarantees from the small business borrowers, who are typically subprime in nature. You have the benefit of both small business credit as well as the small business company owner. But the APRs tend to be a lot higher in that business and you - we haven’t put any leverage against those assets and we don’t plan on doing so. So you don’t need additional financing, it’s 70%, stay the PSEC, so that’s our logic there, Chris.

Christopher Nolan

Analyst · MLV & Company. Please go ahead

Okay. Thank you for taking my questions, Grier.

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · MLV & Company. Please go ahead

Thank you, Chris.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Robert Dodd of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Hi, guys. I’m going to keep it general for this one. Looking at the ROE you’re generating at the moment about 9.5%, to earn the dividend from an NII basis, so I understand the taxable distinction. But from an NII basis, you need that to be modestly high, 9.7% declare the dividend obviously pushing 10%, it would be better. Can you link these various strategic avenues you’re approaching rebalancing the portfolio to high yields, the spins, et cetera. What’s kind of the rank ordering that you would expect that importance to be in terms of driving that ROE higher, ultimately protecting NAV and maybe even enabling shareholders to see some dividend growth eventually?

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Sure. Well, I would say portfolio optimization, Robert, is probably the top of the list. When you talk about rotating out of 6% yielder and putting them into 12% yielder. That’s mathematically a pretty significant driver when you talk about taking three quarters of $1 billion of assets and doing that, that’s number one. Number two, refinancing our liabilities. We also expect to be an earnings driver, some of which we’ve already done. As Brian mentioned in his prepared remarks, we called our baby bond, which has kind of stuck out like a sore thumb as our most expensive financing at a highly diversified liability stack, the very first moment we could win when call protection rolled off and we gave notice on April 15 and that bond has been called in a week’s time. So that 7% yielder is being replaced initially by our credit facility Prospect Capital Funding, which on an incremental basis a purely marginal cost analysis basis when you look at the incremental draw cost compared to unfunded commitments what Brian about 2% incremental cost approximately. So you’re placing 7% money with 2% money on $100 million call, which we think is a driver. We’ve also been refinancing some of our program notes. And one of the nice benefits of those is unlike the institutional side, where you have non-call life bonds that you can’t pre-pay in any fashion. The program notes the five to seven year notes typically can be called in - after one year. So we’ve been optimizing our liability stack. So that would be number two. Number three is - and maybe that will rise to be higher priority than number three based on the numbers, it’s little bit tough to tell. We’re looking at selling one or more of our controlled deals sometime this year. And we obviously look to do so, if we think we’re getting attractive number and then taking those proceeds and reinvesting in a diversified array of income producing securities. We’ve got some companies on the control side that has some interesting growth attached to them. And if we can monetize and get a growth multiple for something and then reinvest into income producing securities, which is our significant objective and mantra, then we will seek to do that. So those are some of the big earnings drivers that we are looking at to drive growth in the future Robert.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Okay, got it. Thank you.

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Gregg Abella of Investment Partners Asset Management. Please go ahead.

Gregg Abella

Analyst · Investment Partners Asset Management. Please go ahead

Good morning, gentlemen.

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Investment Partners Asset Management. Please go ahead

Hi, Gregg.

Gregg Abella

Analyst · Investment Partners Asset Management. Please go ahead

So this is really more of a suggestion maybe then a question, but Prospect’s been around for a while and it’s managed through a much higher interest rate environment than we have now. So it might be interesting when you’re presenting to advisors and analysts if you could point out what Prospect’s yield was relative to short-term and long-term treasuries in the past and what the discount to NAV was back then. I don’t know for a fact, but I’m willing to bet that the discount wasn’t as severe than that, probably the yield was pretty similar to what it is now and it just seems like not just Prospect, but anything of the high yield nature is sort of - has a distorted price and you might be able to lay a lot of fears about what would happen in rising rates if you can point out that it’s already baked into the mix?

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Investment Partners Asset Management. Please go ahead

Gregg, that’s an excellent suggestion and I think we as an industry need to do a better job of communicating that to the outside world and do a better job of communicating that, in a rising rate environment, we expect for floating rate asset sensitive company and industry to do well or at least not be harmed by an increase in rates and you seem to see recent trading activity of sell-off yield indiscriminately when there is concerns about rates going up. So that’s an excellent suggestion Gregg. And we’ll think about incorporating that type of historical data analysis going forward.

Gregg Abella

Analyst · Investment Partners Asset Management. Please go ahead

Thanks, guys.

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Investment Partners Asset Management. Please go ahead

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Allen Morford of Investors first. Please go ahead.

Allen Morford

Analyst · Investors first. Please go ahead

Hello.

Brian Oswald

Analyst · Investors first. Please go ahead

Hi, Allen.

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Investors first. Please go ahead

Hi, Allen. You’re right here. We can hear you, sir.

Allen Morford

Analyst · Investors first. Please go ahead

Yes. I’m very concerned about a number of things and investors right now are suffering with 25% discount from net asset value. And you guys continue to collect a fee based upon net asset value. I don’t think that’s really fair in this environment. I think if you take a look at your stock and long-term, the big issue in terms of net asset value has directly been related to your excessive fees. And there have been some situations here recently where some very, very large investors have come in and in effect done a proxy to either have the management reorganize their fee structure or take them out. And your fees are just incredible it just doesn’t make any sense to me. I do not believe you’re acting as a fiduciary because of these fees and I’d like you to comment to that?

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Investors first. Please go ahead

So I think we missed the first part of your question with some echoing. Look on the subject of management fees declined in the March quarter compared to the prior quarter. We have a significant performance component that people pay careful attention to and earnings went down and incentive fee and overall management fees went down. So we think that’s in place, number one. Number two, our management team in really broader company and all you see publicly are the Form 4 filers that counts. Pick a handful of the 100-plus people that work here. So what you see publicly is understated. I purchased well over $10 million of stock in the last year and deeming it to be a good investment and supporting the overall company. So a couple of thoughts there, but we do appreciate your concerns and we’re working hard to arrest the discount situation by focusing on driving earnings, longer-term, trying to have that translated into an increase in the dividend. There is no guarantees in that, but we’re working on drivers, which we think will be helpful toward that objective, and better education about, not just what our company does but about the recurring and sustainable nature of the earnings we produce. This quarter for example, we started communicating how virtually 100% of our revenue comes from interest income, 97% to be exact as opposed one-time structuring fee and one-off types of income, which we think is a demonstration of the high quality nature of our earnings stream. So we think that’s a factual and positive message to get out there and to be helpful, where obviously as an industry, you’re seeing kind of macro things result in discounts across the industry, not just specific to our company pertaining to interest rate concerns and some of the things we talked about with Gregg, but we appreciate very much your comments Allen. Thank you.

Allen Morford

Analyst · Investors first. Please go ahead

I have another question.

Brian Oswald

Analyst · Investors first. Please go ahead

You really need to go on.

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Investors first. Please go ahead

Allen, in the interest of time, we’re going to go into the next question. So, thank you, sir.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from [indiscernible]. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I hope you can hear me. So - can you hear me?

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead with your question

We can indeed, Lisa [ph], go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, thank you. I’m listening through the call this morning and you really - indirectly you really did answer his question, there it just seems like, it’s like whatever you can get away with and that you done it that way. And I think that you need to correct that. And my other [indiscernible] conference call to talk about, my question is when should we expect the staff to at least go up 50% [indiscernible], do you see that in the forecast are not really?

Grier Eliasek

Analyst · Barclays. Please go ahead with your question

Well Lisa as we said in last - to the last question we’re working on things to demonstrate from a communication standpoint, the recurring nature of our earnings for that to get out there, we don’t think a 12.5% dividend yield, which will convey potential risk texture [ph] is appropriate. When you look at our business, that’s predominantly a first-lien senior secured lending business with very thoughtful and protective and laddered liabilities attached to it, within a registered structure that limits indebtedness to less than one-to-one. So we don’t think that’s appropriate. We’re trying to do more in enhanced communication to assist with that message as well as to communicate that in a rising rate environment, we’ve floating rate assets. Our whole industry is sold off to a discount situation, not singular and unique to our company. And we understand the frustration and rest assured some of the largest shareholders in the company we’re concerned about addressing that as well. Thank you very much.

John Francis Barry

Analyst

Okay thank you. We need to go onto the next question. Okay. I think we are all set now. Thank you very much. Have a wonderful lunch.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now concluded. We thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect your line.