Steven Roth
Analyst · Stifel
We probably think it's a little more than that, but I mean, I'm not going to quibble with that number. And once again, it's not a big number in our entire enterprise, so there's, let's say, there's arguably 2 million square feet, that's not a correct number but it's directionally correct, the vacancy's there. So whether we would quibble with your number by $50 a foot, one way or the other, it's actually a pretty small number. So we're talking about dollars per share, one way or the other, in value. Not fives of dollars or tens of dollars. Now with respect to Skyline, which, for those of us who understand the market down there is obviously metro-deprived and, therefore, a more difficult submarket, which we admit. What we have created there is by restructuring the loan, we have created the ability to hold that asset for a very long period of time waiting for submarket for the market to turn and then, we will be able to -- as the market gets tighter, over time, which could take years, we believe that we will have better luck at leasing that space. So what we have done there is we have basically stretched the loan out, and also bifurcated the loan to allow us to put capital in releasing, leasing capital, as needed. We expect Skyline to be at the very end of the lease-up program in Washington.
John W. Guinee - Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Incorporated, Research Division: Perfect, okay. So there is some value to, essentially, your preferred position, but it's a long time in being monetized.