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Wabash National Corporation (WNC)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 1, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Q2 2018 Wabash National Earnings Conference Call. My name is John, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. And I will now turn the call over to Jeff Taylor.

Jeffery Taylor

Analyst · Stephens

Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Wabash National Corporation 2018 second quarter earnings call. This is Jeff Taylor, Chief Financial Officer; Brent Yeagy, President and Chief Executive Officer is on the call with me today. Brent will discuss the overall Company performance for the quarter, as well as the progress we are making in our strategic initiatives, the current operating environment and our outlook for the remainder of 2018. I will then review the financial results. At the conclusion of the prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions from the listening audience. Before we begin, I'd like to cover two brief items. First, please note that this call is being recorded. Second, as with all these types of presentations, this morning's call contains certain forward-looking information, including statements about the Company's prospects, adjusted earnings per share guidance, the industry outlook, backlog information, financial condition and other matters. As you know, actual results could differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. These statements should be viewed via the cautionary statements and risk factors set forth from time-to-time in the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Brent Yeagy.

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · Stephens

Thanks, Jeff. As many on the call know, I became CEO on June 2, as part of a planned CEO transition. I spent my first week of CEO traveling to numerous manufacturing locations and meeting directly with the hourly and salaried associates to make Wabash National a great company. I've also had to pleasure to meet with may have our external shareholders and analysts since the transition was announced last December. From those meetings and discussions one common question emerged which was how I lead the company. I want to provide additional color on that question today. Let me start by saying that we will build on the foundation that we’ve established by my predecessor. The company is stronger and more diverse today that it has ever been in this 33-year history. We are proud of what we have accomplished, nevertheless we will continue strengthening the Company and accelerating growth in specific areas of the business in order to do that my team and I are focused on people, purpose, and performance. We will share more about how that plays into our strategic plan over the next few months and during our Investor Day is that the New York City plan for November 29 of this year. With that was discussed the Company second quarter performance. We are pleased to deliver a strong performance in the quarter especially considering the challenging environment we face, as we continue to execute our strategic plan to profitably grow and diversify. We achieved a new record for quarterly consolidated revenue at approximately $613 million, which is 13% higher than the previous record from the fourth quarter of 2015. This new record is directly attributable to the addition of the Supreme business and our Final Mile Products segment and strong demand in our other two…

Jeffery Taylor

Analyst · Stephens

Thanks Brent. On a consolidated basis, second quarter net revenue was $613 million, an increase of $177 million or 41% year-over-year establishing a new high point for quarterly revenue. Net sales increased for both Commercial Trailer Products and Diversified Products Group compared to the prior quarter and the favorable impact of adding the Final Mile segment all contributed to the strong revenue in the quarter. Consolidated new Trailer shipments were 16,300 units during the quarter consistent with our shipment guidance. Second quarter build levels totaled approximately 16,150 units. Components, parts and service revenue was $39 million in the quarter, down slightly from $42 million in the prior year quarter, primarily as a result of lower sales at our branch locations as we continue to transition company-owned branch stores to independent dealers. Equipment and other revenue was $148 million in the quarter, up $119 million compared to the second quarter of 2017, primarily due to the addition of truck body sales in the Final Mile products segment. Overall, non-trailer-related revenues for the current quarter totaled $187 million or 30% of our total revenue, which both represent new all-time records for non-trailer revenue. This increase is due to the inclusion of Supreme and our other organic initiatives to continue growth in our non-trailer products. In terms of operating results, consolidated gross profit for the quarter was $85.3 million, up $17.6 million or 26% year-over-year attributed to the addition of Final Mile products. Consolidated gross margin of 13.9% decrease to 160 basis points year-over-year due to the challenging operating environment which Brent previously described, including material and component cost inflation, higher labor cost and continuing cost ramp up labor in addition to the impact of supplier constraint. Nevertheless, $85 million of quarterly gross profit is historically very strong performance for the Company and…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question is from Brad Delco from Stephens.

Scott Schoenhaus

Analyst · Stephens

Hey, guys. This is actually Scott Schoenhaus for Brad. How are you?

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · Stephens

Good, how are you Scott?

Jeffery Taylor

Analyst · Stephens

Yes, good morning, Scott.

Scott Schoenhaus

Analyst · Stephens

Good. I guess I'll start off, I know you guys commented that 30% of your domestic raw material costs weren't able to be hedge. Wondering if you could talk about where you see? Is that sort of the baseline of where you can't make head raw material costs? And then I guess our segment gross margins, I know Jeff you just said that pricing should flow through better in the third quarter. Can you kind of just walk us through what gross margins could be should be in the near-term and maybe longer term for each segment?

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · Stephens

So let me maybe start with the second piece first. We don't give specific guidance by segment at margin level. So our commentary I think is directional and advance for you that we do expect to see continued improvement. As pricing continues to take hold and we continue to work aggressively to offset mitigate to the greatest extent possible, the increased volatility that we're seeing in raw materials and then obviously the additional headwinds from labor and supplier constraints. I think all three segments we would expect to see some level of marginal margin improvement as we move into the third quarter and then into the fourth quarter by year end. But as a practice, we don't quantify what that amount would be.

Jeffery Taylor

Analyst · Stephens

And just Scott, just to get a little bit more color on the margin, kind of backdrop for Q3 and Q4. In the previous earnings call, we talked about the fact that CTPs specifically had conducted a backlog repricing of that early in the first quarter going into the second quarter with an effect that would begin to show itself in the third quarter, but primarily in the fourth quarter, right. As that – those actions take place subsequently both in our platforms business and within our tank trailer business. We've also been active the level of pricing recovery or material cost recovery efforts successfully and again that's it gives us reason to believe that we should start to see that impact specifically in Q4. So those are some things that we've been doing, as well as aggressively pricing new material cost inflation in our quote models that are leading into the rounding out of the backlog that occurred over the past six to eight weeks.

Scott Schoenhaus

Analyst · Stephens

Right.

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · Stephens

So Scott to move back to you the first part of your question, which was around hedging and the 30% that we are not effectively effetely hedge at this point in time, and historically have not been in our history. We are able to effectively hedge the key metals that we use directly. So steel and aluminum in general, we hedge those products, those materials as we purchase them. We are not effectively able to hedge, all of them in the metal content that comes through components that we purchase. In specific situations, we may be able to get a small portion of that hedge, but to a large extent that is portion that remains unhedged at this time, as does high density polyethylene, which is the core material for the DuraPlate composite side wall. We are actively working to and evaluating if we can effectively hedge additional material and component exposure in the future and that's something that you will talk about as it develops.

Scott Schoenhaus

Analyst · Stephens

Great. That's very helpful guys. I guess my follow up question would be is investors obviously feeling and this could be at the peak of the freight cycle. Can talk about what your customers are telling you and what your demand really is looking like with your backlog into 2019 would sort of end markets you're seeing the most strength from and into larger smaller customers. Can you just talk about customers are telling you?

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · Stephens

I’ll specifically talk about the Trailer segments first tanks platforms and drive refrigerated advance. We see high quote levels across the Board as we move into to an early quote period as the backlog size to manage picked up for 2019. It is significantly higher that we saw at the same time last year which indicates and tends to agree with everything that we're saying in terms of both the macro and micro measures both in freight and the economy. So we feel really good about where we set right now. Customer sentiment is bullish really across the board as we said here just kind of leave it at that in terms of customer sentiment. And as we also talk to our suppliers in the context of how they will gauge capacity for the second half of the year and for 2019 they also echo those same bullish sentiments and how they look to plan their business.

Scott Schoenhaus

Analyst · Stephens

Great. That’s very helpful.

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · Stephens

Yes, truck body it's a very similar conversation as well as specifically for our largest truck body customers who tend to see in the line with this secular demand specifically around e-commerce. We feel good about where we're at today and setting up for 2019.

Jeffery Taylor

Analyst · Stephens

Yes, I think in tank trailer we continue to see positive indicators is that business slowly improves from where it's been over the past couple of years in many of those key markets with strong economic growth or showing increased activity.

Scott Schoenhaus

Analyst · Stephens

Great. Thanks very helpful guys. I’ll hop back in queue.

Jeffery Taylor

Analyst · Stephens

Thank you, Scott.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Mike Shlisky from Seaport Global.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · Seaport Global

Good morning, guys.

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · Seaport Global

Good morning.

Jeffery Taylor

Analyst · Seaport Global

Good morning, Michael.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · Seaport Global

Good morning. So I just kind of kick it off here, could you get us a number as to whether Supreme was accretive in Q2 excluding any of the one-time costs.

Jeffery Taylor

Analyst · Seaport Global

If that was accretive in Q2 actually I think the strong performance with record revenue in the very strong increase just on operating income for the business that I do believe it is accretive I haven't done the actual calculation on a quarterly basis. But the very strong performance leads me to believe that it would be yes.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · Seaport Global

Okay. And just selling up there us on Supreme, there have been some issues other outfitters and another troubling because it with getting the appropriate amount of chances delivered for outfitting. As any part of Supreme experience that recently?

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · Seaport Global

I would say we’re not without our struggles relative to the availability of complete chassis, but I would say that is not created in that regard a material impact relative to supply disruption for our Supreme business. Not without struggles, but I would say without material disruption.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · Seaport Global

Okay. Great. And then I want to get a sense of your market share so far this year. Because so many of the different from yours are actually in different parts of the country some are central U.S. and West Coast et cetera. If you think that everyone's facing the same challenges especially on labor and you think you've held in there with respect to you share in some of your more important categories so far in 2018?

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · Seaport Global

Yes, without nailing down an exact share number at this time are indications say that we're either holding or growing share or all of our major markets. So I think we're navigating well and our ability to capitalize on this market. I don't think there's any manufacturer that is void of supply disruption at this point based on the feedback that we've been given and in some cases we may be in advantaged position relative to our competition. That's somewhat qualitative feedback but that's the feedback that we have and that we've been given. In terms of the labor market I think it's tight across the country there absolutely labor markets that are tighter and pockets Lafayette, Indiana is setting at you know 3.6 plus or minus unemployment as we said today. The national average is 4 we have some areas that are better in some areas that are worse having our competition is any different.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · Seaport Global

Great. Thanks. I just kind of squeeze in one last one here that was when you made a comment there Brent on the EPA is potentially exempting trailers from some of the GHG and fuel standards going forward. I'm kind of curious is that matters much to your product development pipeline going forward? I mean, I guess you kind of makes sense to developed products that reduce fuel consumption for the customer anyway because that's going to save them cost. So do they have – and where you can kind of highlight for us how you might change the R&D plan if this were to pass?

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · Seaport Global

Sure. So first off, the products that we've already put into the pipeline maybe ready for market, already meet the initial demands that are required for the 2021 deadline. So that would not affect that in any material way. We introduced the Ventix here a couple of years ago that would begin to satisfy the requirements for the 2024 cut off period for the next tranche of requirements. So in many cases have begun to work for that next tranche already as well as with the AeroFin XL also allows for some additional additive ability that we could bring into 2024. So we've been playing our pipeline accordingly to meet those requirements. There wouldn’t be a material effect there. But to your point, whether or not there is a greenhouse gas rule or not, we're going to market products that add value to customers, and while we may not have the regulatory push in terms of being a market driver, we will still look to add those value added features or sell those value added features to those customers that demand.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · Seaport Global

Okay. Thanks very much.

Jeffery Taylor

Analyst · Seaport Global

Thank you, Mike.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Steve Dyer from Craig-Hallum.

Steven Dyer

Analyst · Craig-Hallum

Thanks. Good morning, guys.

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · Craig-Hallum

Good morning, Steve.

Steven Dyer

Analyst · Craig-Hallum

Just a question as I try to parse your margin and earnings guidance for the remainder of the year. So the implication based on – trying to square Q3 with what you said for the year was a fairly sharp increase in margins for Q4 which typically doesn't happen just given volumes and holidays and things like that. So can you just give us a little confidence or help us sort of appreciate what you're seeing to expect that kind of ramp?

Jeffery Taylor

Analyst · Craig-Hallum

Yes. Sure Steve. I think as you've heard us say in prior calls that as the backlog built for the full-year, the pricing increased as that backlog did build and so it pushed the most favorable pricing into the back half and honestly into the last quarter of the full-year. And so that's – on our topline basis that's driving the favorable pricing impact that we see there. Also as we look at Q3, we do expect to get some improvement and the overall labor market and some more stability in regards to our workforce that we believe will lead to stability and an improvement in productivity in that regard for the quarter. And then as you think about the – as we look at our product mix that we're building from the third quarter and the fourth quarter, the third quarter will have a pretty strong mix of direct customers. And as you know those customers are generally priced lower than indirect channel customers and so. We will see an increase in indirect channel mix in the fourth quarter, which will also help improve the margin profile in that quarter. It's also possible, and the current forecasts are for the raw material to stabilize. There's even a possibility that there could be some favorability in Q4 as well. We’ll wait to make that call maybe until the next call we have.

Steven Dyer

Analyst · Craig-Hallum

Okay. Thanks. I mean as it relates to capacity you mentioned, you’ve opened the order book for 2019. Just wondering how you're handling pricing for that if you're given firm pricing, you're just going to given all the volatility and commodities et cetera. And then another question follow-up on capacity, in the past you guys have lots of slots open in the current year to try to take a few higher margin orders. Wondering if that's an opportunity for upside in the second half for you're book type? That’s it for me. Thanks.

Jeffery Taylor

Analyst · Craig-Hallum

I'll take the first one in terms of pricing for 2019 and how are we looking at risk management from a pricing material volatility standpoint. We are absolutely – and talking with our direct customers, looking at adding additional risk protection frameworks in terms of material inflation, both in the 12-period between quote and hedging as well as various mechanisms to recover inflationary pressures throughout the life of the bill. Those discussions are ongoing right now. We believe our competitors are also beginning the follow suit and having so more conversations with customers as well as they look to negotiate – will go to challenging inflationary environment. So time will tell, but we look to – we think that the market is setting up to allow that to occur. In terms of absolute pricing, I won’t give you hard numbers right now. But it's safe to say that we're looking at not only covering the material inflation that we were working through all of 2018, but also looked to recover margin as part of the process as well, and we're pricing accordingly to be able to do that. We think the market again allows us, we’ll talk about volume perceived pricing and I think maybe we're in that position, where that turn is starting at this point. In terms of capacity in Q4, we are the constraint relative to added capacity is really going to be mirrored by what is the level of supply disruption as we go into Q4. This goes hand in hand with our labor stability and efficiency. As the supply environment begins to stabilize, which we believe we will occur in Q3 based on feedback that we have. We should start to see some improvements relative to we'll call it Labor conversion on the floor. If that truly occurs, we may have the ability of maneuvering in the Q4, more prepared to do that those game plans are on the table. But those will be metered out based on the ongoing stability improvement of the supply chain.

Steven Dyer

Analyst · Craig-Hallum

Got it, okay, thanks guys.

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · Craig-Hallum

Thank you, Steve.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Joel Tiss from BMO Capital Markets.

Joel Tiss

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Hey, guys. How you’re doing?

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Hello, Joel, good morning.

Joel Tiss

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Good morning. You’ve answered a lot. I just wondered if we could spend a few minutes on the Final Mile business, what are you seeing there, and do you see that the cycle is being similar to the drive and cycle and can you talk a little more about the operating margins as we look into the second half of the year and maybe even any sense for 2019 as well? Thank you.

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Yes, in terms of cycles between our predominately medium duty truck body businesses relative to our heavy duty van business. We don't necessarily see those cycles being the same and really any material way we think that the fundamental drivers both micro and macro for the truck body business are effectively separate. And again we see a level of secular demand specifically in that Final Mile piece that isn't being picked up and the medium duty numbers that we think this proportionately propel growth with the markets that we serve. So we feel pretty good about what 2019 and then even 2020, 2121, begin to look like for a Final Mile business. That's why we're excited and that's why we're investing it in order to have sufficient capacity on line to take advantage of it. I’ll let Jeff cover the market question.

Jeffery Taylor

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Yes, in terms of operating margins, Joel I mean our goal is to continue to expand those margins. Having said that we do have a business that has a seasonal profile to it, generally the strongest period is in the second quarter. As you know and if you go back and look at Supreme’s history as a publicly traded company, you’ll get a pretty good view of what that seasonal profile looks like. So I won't necessarily comment quarter-to-quarter. We do expect just normal drop in topline. Obviously that will impact the overall margins there from an operating leverage perspective on lower volumes. But longer-term our investments that we're making in manufacturing capability in facilities and new technologies and products development, all of that work over time we expect to continue to grow operating in gross margins over the long-term.

Joel Tiss

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

That's great. Thank you very much.

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Thank you, Joel. End of Q&A And I'll now turn the call back over to Brent Yeagy for closing remarks.

Brent Yeagy

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets

Thank you all for your interest in and support of Wabash National Corporation. Jeff and I look forward to speaking with you again on our next call. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen that concludes today's call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.