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National CineMedia, Inc. (NCMI)

Q1 2016 Earnings Call· Wed, May 4, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the National CineMedia Inc. First Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. David Oddo, Senior Vice President-Finance. Thank you, Mr. Oddo. You may begin.

David J. Oddo - SVP Finance, Co-Interim CFO and Principal Financial Officer

Management

Good afternoon. I'd like to remind our listeners that this conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. All statements other than the statements of historical facts communicated during this conference call may constitute forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties. Important factors that can cause actual results to differ materially from the company's expectations are disclosed in the risk factors contained in the company's filings with the SEC. All forward-looking statements are expressly qualified in their entirety by such factors. Further, our discussion today includes some non-GAAP measures. In accordance with Regulation G, we have reconciled these amounts back to the closest GAAP-basis measurement. These reconciliations can be found at the end of today's earnings release which may be found on the Investor page of our website at www.ncm.com. Now, I'll turn the call over to Andy England, CEO of National CineMedia. Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thanks, David. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome and thanks for joining us for our first quarter 2016 earnings call. Before I begin, I'd like to join all of the movie fans out there and wishing you a happy Star Wars Day. May the Fourth be with you. During this call, I will spend a few minutes highlighting the company's first quarter results, progress against that 2016 business plan, and what I've learned during my first four months with National CineMedia. David will then provide a more detailed discussion of financial performance for Q1 and provide guidance for Q2 and full year 2016. And then, as always, we will open the line for questions. I'm pleased that we were able to deliver solid performance overall…

David J. Oddo - SVP Finance, Co-Interim CFO and Principal Financial Officer

Management

Thanks Andy. For the first quarter, our total revenue decreased 0.9% versus Q1 2015, driven by a 5.3% or $400,000 decrease in beverage revenue and a 0.8% decrease in national advertising revenue, partially offset by a 0.5% increase in local advertising revenue. Total Q1 adjusted OIBDA decreased 13.4% and adjusted OIBDA margin decreased to 31.5% from 36.0% versus Q1 2015, reflecting the decrease in 100% margin beverage revenue, increases in theater access fees related to higher founding member attendance, and contracted increases in digital screen fees, and higher selling and marketing costs related to the timing and focus on certain marketing and research initiatives. We also recorded $100,000 of AMC Rave and Cinemark Rave integration payments for the first quarter versus $300,000 in Q1 2015. You should note that these integration payments are added to adjusted OIBDA for debt compliance purposes, but are not included in our reported revenue and adjusted OIBDA as they're recorded as a reduction to net intangible assets on our balance sheet. We continue to expect to record approximately $3 million of these integration payments from our founding members during 2016. Our Q1 2016 advertising revenue mix was 66% national, 25% local, and 9% beverage versus Q1 2015 that was 66%, 24% and 10% respectively. The Q1 national ad revenue that decreased 0.8% versus Q1 2015 was primarily driven by a 13.4% decrease in impressions sold, partially offset by a 7.7% increase in CPMs versus Q1 2015. The decrease in impressions sold was driven by a decrease in inventory utilization to 81.3% from a record 99.9% in Q1 2015 due to a greater percentage of upfront commitments including content partner commitments allocated to the second half of 2016 versus comparable upfront commitment allocations in 2015. This decrease in inventory utilization rate was partially offset by a…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, David. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we'll be conducting a question-and-answer session. And our first question comes from the line of Eric Wold from B. Riley. Please proceed with your question. Eric Wold - B. Riley & Co. LLC: Thank you. Couple of questions; I guess first one, David, you mentioned in the opening comments about an inability to comment on the AMC Carmike acquisition and its impact. I think, there's some confusion out there in terms of what the impact would be on the P&L. Is there any way you can just kind of give a broad brush stroke in terms of share to be issued, integration payments, you think kind of what maybe the net impact to bottom line would be?

David J. Oddo - SVP Finance, Co-Interim CFO and Principal Financial Officer

Management

Yeah. I'll just talk top level there, I'll let everyone out there make their assumptions on the number of attendees and point out to some public sort of calculations that are out there. One is the common unit adjustment calculation. So – and that's disclosed on 8-K at least once annually. So, I would just point people in that direction if they want to assume attendees and other assumptions to run through that pretty simple calculation, and so whatever that calculation spits out, the number of units that we would have to issue, the idea when we issue units to a founding member that buys a circuit that's still under contract with another advertising provider, the way that works is we'll issue the units, but we have to be made whole through what we call integration payments. And so there is another calculation in our documents, in our operating agreement, and ESAs that – that talk about how do you calculate that fee. Having said that, the intent is to make it a neutral transaction where if we issue units then we get paid back somewhere near the adjusted OIBDA per attendee that we would have earned on those attendees if we were able to sell them. So, I'll just – I'll leave it at that and sort of point to the calculations out there. Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: If I could just add to that, a point there really is that, we don't know what's going to happen with that proposed deal, but what we would do is encourage analysts to ask questions of AMC, Carmike – excuse me, AMC or Carmike on whether it will close, when it will close, what the deal is likely to look like when it closes, et cetera.…

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Alexia Quadrani of JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Julia Yue - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question

Hi. Thank you. This is Julia Yue on for Alexia. With a much stronger than expected Box Office in the first quarter and year-to-date, and films increasingly being phased out better through the year as you mentioned. Do you think that advertisers might change their perception of Q1 as perhaps the lower demand period and instead allocate a greater portion of their budgets there? And going forward, do you think that this could be an area of potential opportunities for you guys? Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you for the question and it's a great question because I had the same one coming in. You'll note that the attendance in Q1 of 2016 was almost that of the attendance in Q4 of 2015, and it won't be lost on you that we're doing much better job of monetizing the fourth quarter than we do the first quarter. And as I look at that, I think, there are frankly a number of reasons. I think one is just, habit, I think, for whatever reason we and perhaps the studios have trained their advertisers to expect the greatest tent-pole movies in the summer and in the holidays, so cinema is not top of mind during the first quarter for advertisers, even though it clearly is for consumers. So, I think, we have some retraining frankly to do of both ourselves and advertisers around the first quarter of the year. I think, there are probably some other factors that play into it, but I think that's probably the largest thing that we really need to sort of – you could certainly argue competition actually, when you look at some of the other things that we compete with the first quarter dollars, I think, whether it's the NFL playoffs or March Madness, or the GRAMMY's or the Oscars, there are certainly other places where our more experiential higher CPM advertisers like to go during that time period. So, that's certainly a second factor, but fundamentally, I agree with you that it feels like we should be able to do better in the first quarter.

Julia Yue - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Barton Crockett from FBR Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Barton E. Crockett - FBR Capital Markets & Co.: Okay, great. Thanks for taking the question. Andy, I guess, a couple of things around the ad environment. One is – just stepping back, very big picture, it seems like the secular story around TV and advertisers looking for things outside of TV is really different now than it was last year heading into your upfront last year, TV was on its heels. The story was that advertisers were looking for ways to reach audiences outside of TV and that was seen as a great backdrop for theater was to pick up some of the money moving out of TV. Now, the TV networks are going through the turning (29:47) cycle. They're reporting great advertising growth. They're talking about money coming back into TV and I was just wondering what do you see in terms of the demand for theater advertising? Is the movement of money out of TV into theater, has it weakened at all as TV seems to be getting stronger heading into this upfront? Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: Well, thank you, Barton, it's a good question. I think it's certainly our belief that we're very well positioned in the long-term. And I think, to your point, what the atmosphere is like for the big TV media companies during any given upfront season is going to vary from year-to-year. But there's certainly a longer-term trend there that they, I'm sure are very concerned about. That's why when we look at our competitive situation in the marketplace, candidly that's why we're focused on millennials, content and data. We're focused on millennials because that millennial reach…

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of James Dix from Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question.

James G. Dix - Wedbush Securities, Inc.

Analyst · James Dix from Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

Thanks very much. I had a three, I guess the first would be, as you look at your second quarter outlook, is it much different than what you expected when you first gave guidance for the year given the (34:20) other things that have changed? And then second would be, is there any statistics you could give or a description you could give of where you stand in terms of business, which is on the books for the year as a midpoint of your scatter budget now versus this time last year? And then I had just one follow up concerning audience metrics? Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: Do you want to take that?

David J. Oddo - SVP Finance, Co-Interim CFO and Principal Financial Officer

Management

Yeah, James I would say that our original thoughts on Q2, back when we gave for your guidance, are a little bit less than we expected. There were some additional shifts out of the quarter. As you know, we've got these must spend content partner commitments and they allocate based on their marketing needs throughout the year, and we're generally pretty accommodating if they need to move some of their spending and for whatever reason, the stars aligned and they've got a lot of priorities in the fourth quarter this year. So, I would say marginally a little bit less than we had expected hitting into the second quarter over the last couple of months. As far as talking about where we're book – percentages that were booked to budgets and things like that, on the last call, we talked about a shift in how we talk about that and so we're not going to – going forward not to talk about sort of percentages where we're booked to in the third quarter or the fourth quarter or scatter or upfront and things like that. Just kind of generally give you an idea of where our upfronts are falling out, and our content partner allocations are falling out and sort of generally where we are versus where we're expected in our booking. So, we're trying to stay clear of just giving actual numbers there.

James G. Dix - Wedbush Securities, Inc.

Analyst · James Dix from Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

Okay. That's fair enough. Yeah, I do recall that now. And then I guess just my last one was just I guess on the, I don't know whether it's (36:22) and seats factor, you will fly to the attendance that's just running through your network to determine exactly what audience is seeing a spot at a particular point in the pre-show. Has that factor been changing much over the past few years with any changes which are occurring within the circuits that's online ordering or was there seating or anything else. And do you have any particular assumptions regarding that over the next couple of years? Thanks. Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: So, let me share, thank you for that James. Let me share a couple of thoughts on that. I think overall I think it's fair to say that circuits, particularly I found the circuits are investing in theaters in a way that is making the experience more exciting and more enjoyable for their guest. So, I think that always has to be a good thing, and I do believe that's a factor in the ongoing stabilization and health of the industry. So getting people actually in the movie theaters is just a very good thing that I think is being helped by everything from reserved seating to recliner seats that in dining and all the rest. In terms of when people actually get to their seat in each individual auditorium, we don't have good numbers on that and we have a very mix data suggesting one way or another whether all of this is helping us. I think for the most part, there's a belief that reserved seating might not be helping us, but there's a lot of sense that when there's a big tent pole movie, people like to get to their seats early anyway, just because it's a habit and it's something they're excited about doing. I think the growth of dining in has to be helping us frankly, because that's getting close to 5% of our network, and when people want to dine in, they often want to get started eating well before the movie such that they're fully settled in for when it actually happens. So there's some mixed stuff playing. Overall, I think when you're offering a better experiences as I found our circuits and our affiliates are doing, I think that's good for the business and good for getting people into theaters and I think they're mixed factors in terms of when they actually get to their seats.

James G. Dix - Wedbush Securities, Inc.

Analyst · James Dix from Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

Okay, great. And so would you say it's fair to say that you don't think that timing of rivals is going to – that's not having a big impact on your outlook over the next year or two in terms of actual audience deliveries? Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: I don't think so. I think obviously, there are lots of different factors that play here. I think to the extent the studios keep turning out great content and movie theaters continue to be places that millennials in particular want to go, I think there's always going to be hustle and bustle and activity there and it's difficult to read in the short-term or medium-term what the impact is going to be.

James G. Dix - Wedbush Securities, Inc.

Analyst · James Dix from Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

Great. Thanks very much. Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our final question comes from the line of Jim Goss from Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question, sir.

James Charles Goss - Barrington Research Associates, Inc.

Analyst · Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question, sir

Thanks. Following up on James' thoughts about the timing of people getting in seats, are you getting any empirical evidence in terms of like the local and regional ads, the earlier ones in terms of demand there or pricing that might talk to that issue? Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: Hey, Jim, well, that's a good question. I mean, in general I'd say the answer is no. I think local and regional businesses has been healthy. In fact if you look at it since the IPO, our local and regional business has grown faster than our national business from a CAGR point of view. And we see no slow down in that happening. So our local and regional business is healthy. And as we talked about the addition of working with STRATA to enable spot buying, I think is just going to help our regional and local business. So, no, we don't see a correlation at present.

James Charles Goss - Barrington Research Associates, Inc.

Analyst · Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question, sir

Okay. And has any of the other founding members followed on their 30-second cut in beverage? Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: No.

James Charles Goss - Barrington Research Associates, Inc.

Analyst · Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question, sir

Is that still stable? No? And finally, a while back, there was a cut back on CPMs to try to stabilize the business and driving more demand. Are you at a point where you think you might be able to increase CPMs again or at least sort of move in that direction, especially given the high expectations for upfront that might provide some cover in that regard? Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: Well, it's an interesting question. And I would tell you that, I'm somewhat agnostic between – if I had to choose between CPMs and the utilization, I'm somewhat agnostic. Obviously driving CPMs certainly gives the feeling of a healthy business. But on the other hand, so does utilization. When you're bringing in more advertisers and expanding you're advertiser base, that's a healthy thing too. If you look at that first quarter, I believe our CPMs were up 7.7%. So first quarter really was a CPM story. A part of me wishes it'd have been a utilization story instead, right. So, I think, we're somewhat agnostic between the two and frankly I care more about the net revenue and OIBDA lines and so I'm a little agnostic as to how we get there.

James Charles Goss - Barrington Research Associates, Inc.

Analyst · Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question, sir

All right. Good point. Thanks very much. That's it. Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: Very good. Thank you, Jim.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'll turn the call back over to Andy for any closing remarks. Andrew J. England - Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you. Well, first quarter is in the books. It's my first quarter as the Chief Executive Officer, and as you probably gathered I've been on a learning tour, and one in which I've really enjoyed getting to know the team, our affiliates, our founder circuits and many of you. So, I look forward to putting that knowledge into practice as we go forward, and we're making good progress in developing our strategy first as a leadership team, and secondly in conjunction with our board and more of our employees. So, we're feeling good about our business, and about the ideas we have to move forward and we as ever appreciate your support. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. We thank you for your time and participation today. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful rest of your day.