Gary G. Winterhalter
Analyst · Barclays.
Well, first -- yes, absolutely. First of all, you're absolutely right, about 47% of our retail traffic. Now keep in mind that, that is probably only about 30% or 32% of our total traffic is non-BCC or nonprofessional. That is the -- and you hit it right on the head. Our Beauty Club Card traffic is up mid single digits, but our non-Beauty Club, just raw retail traffic, is down a little more than that. So it's really offsetting the increase in Beauty Club Card traffic. And when you don't -- when we're not driving these new retail customers in via the customer acquisition program, it impacts us 2 ways. First of all, what you just said. We don't have the non-Beauty Club Card retail customer walking in the store, which also says we don't have the opportunity to convert that customer because they're not coming in. So I think that you're absolutely right. And I said earlier that to think softer shopping center traffic isn't having some impact on us would be foolish. But I think, when you look at we have the professional business, which is very destination; we have the Beauty Club Card business, which is also, I think, very destination; and the 2 of them are close to 2/3 of our business. So that other third, part of that is coming in through our customer acquisition program, or has been historically, and it's starting to come back. And the balance of that is -- can be affected by -- if you were to tell me that shopping center traffic in mass is down 2%, I would say, okay, but that 2% is really only affecting 1/3 of our business. So if you looked at 2% of 1/3, that's, what, 1.75% could be traffic. And I'm certainly not saying that if we had stronger traffic in shopping centers, it wouldn't help us, but not to the magnitude that it would other mass people in the shopping center because, again, we have a different customer base in our Beauty Club and our professional business.