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Millicom International Cellular S.A. (TIGO)

Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Sat, Jul 30, 2022

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Sarah Inmon

Management

Hello, everyone. Thanks for taking the time to connect to our second quarter 2022 Results Conference Call. This event is being recorded. Our speakers today will be our CEO, Mauricio Ramos; and our CFO, Sheldon Bruha. By now, you should have received a copy of our earnings release, which is available on our website along with the slides that we will be referencing during today’s presentation. If you turn to Slide 2, you can see our safe harbor disclosure. We will be making forward-looking statements, which involve risks and uncertainties and could have a material impact on our results. We will also be referring to many non-IFRS metrics throughout this presentation. We define these metrics on Slide 4 and you can find reconciliation tables in the back of our earnings release and on our website. With those disclaimers out of the way, let me turn the call over to our CEO, Mauricio Ramos.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

Thank you, Sarah. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our second quarter. Let’s get started right away on Slide 5. Earlier this year we hosted our Investor Day. Back then we shared with you our operational and financial plans to create shareholder value over the next several years. These plans are centered around our clear sense of purpose and reflect our commitment to focus ESG initiatives. The key message today is simply that we are on track to deliver on the commitments, financial and otherwise, that we made to you on our Investor Day. Since then, of course the Ukraine has been invaded, interest rates have begun to climb, inflation has spiked and there are increased risks of a U.S. recession in the near term. Needless to say, we don’t expect our business to be immune from a global economic slowdown. But, and this is a big but, so far the impact of these macro disturbances on our business has been somewhat limited. One, we had a very solid Q2 even ahead of our plans. And two, although the going is getting tougher for sure and although we may lose some of the upside and leeway that we had hoped to have; as we look ahead, however, we remain very confident that we will deliver organic operating cash flow growth of around 10% on average over the next 3 years as we said we would earlier this year. And we also remain very confident that the business will generate cumulative all-in equity free cash flow of between $800 million to $1 billion over those same 3 years like we said at our Investor Day earlier this year. We’ve also continued to make meaningful progress on our plans to create separate companies for…

Sheldon Bruha

Management

Thank you, Mauricio. Let me now take you through the key numbers beginning on Slide 15. Service revenue was $1.3 billion in the quarter. That’s up 39% year-on-year due to the Guatemala acquisition. Excluding the acquisition, organic growth was 4.5%, which is about the same as our Q1 and consistent with our medium-term target of mid-single-digit organic growth. Our mobile business grew almost 5% and contributed more than half of the overall growth in the quarter and the majority of this mobile growth came from postpaid, which continues to perform strongly and grew 9% year-on-year. We continue to reap the benefits of the additional investments we’ve made in some of our mobile businesses over the past couple of years, especially in Colombia. Finally, ForEx detracted from reported growth this quarter largely due to the Colombian peso, which depreciated about 5% on average compared to a year-ago. Like most currencies globally, the Colombian peso has continued to weaken compared to the U.S. dollar since the end of the quarter, but many of our other currencies like the Guatemalan quetzal has remained very stable. Going down further on Slide 16 to service revenue by country. Once again every country showed positive growth with Colombia leading the pack with 8.5% growth fueled by the mobile business, which was up almost 18% thanks to our very robust growth in postpaid as Mauricio mentioned. The shift in the mix towards postpaid has also lifted ARPU, which increased nearly 7% year-on-year in Colombia. Elsewhere, we saw El Salvador and Nicaragua maintain their strong momentum with growth of about 7% in the quarter with solid growth in all 3 business lines. Panama and Bolivia grew more than 2% as did Paraguay net of a negative one-off for that business in Q2 of last year. All 3 countries…

Mauricio Ramos

Management

Thank you, Sheldon. As you can see, we had a solid Q2 slightly ahead of our plans for the year. Now we are very aware that macro conditions have gotten tougher and that there are challenges ahead that we haven’t quite foreseen at the beginning of this year. But we also know, and you know this, that we have the ability as we demonstrated during the pandemic to drive and grow our operating cash flow and our equity free cash flow even in the most difficult circumstances. Ours is a very resilient -- a very cash flow resilient business and that is why we’re confident despite the more difficult circumstances that we will be able to deliver on all the commitments we made to you earlier this year. The commitments that are laid out on this page. We remain confident and committing to delivering on all of them. And that is why I, the Board and my colleagues subscribed to the rights offering that we just finalized a month or so ago. It’s a sign of the confidence we have in our business and a sign of the confidence that we have that we will be able to drive shareholder value for you going forward. With that, we’ll take your questions now.

A - Sarah Inmon

Operator

Thank you, Mauricio and Sheldon, for your remarks. Our first question today will come from Klas Danielsson at Nordea.

Klas Danielsson

Analyst

So a couple from my side for sure. So just starting on the cash flow side, I mean it’s clearly a strong outlook that you’re giving for H2 on the OCF side here, clear kind of growth from the levels in H1. I think looking at equity free cash flow, that’s still lagging a bit. So my question is do you expect the kind of incremental OCF in H2 to kind of fully drop through to the equity free cash flow levels or are there any kind of other dynamics affecting in there?

Mauricio Ramos

Management

So I’ll give you, Klas, just kind of a quick overlook and I’m sure Sheldon will give you a little more color. I think the key message today, the word that I would continue to emphasize, is that we are on track to the metrics and the goals that we set out during Investor Day. And that means that we’re confident we’re going to deliver that OCF growth 10% on average over the next 3 years and that, if you work through the math, will get you to the equity free cash flow of $800 million to $1 billion over 3 years on a commodity basis we’d set as a target. We’re on track for that. What we wanted to highlight today, and hopefully we did that quite well during the call, is that the nature of the animal here is weighted or back ended towards the second half and that’s what you’ve begun to see this quarter, as we anticipated it would, that EBITDA has begun to accelerate on the back of service revenue growth that we currently have and that we expect the OCF would accelerate significantly so during the second half getting us to be able to deliver on those targets that we have set out. Sheldon, over to you, if you want to add.

Sheldon Bruha

Management

Yes, sure. Klas, and I made a few comments on this in the prepared remarks in the presentation. But we do have a higher level of cash outflows in the first half of the year versus the second half of the year and there’s several reasons for that. A lot of our income taxes essentially go out in the first half of the year once we complete the financial returns, we do prepay a lot of frequency and software licenses in the first half of the year for the full year, variable comp goes out as well as we had a high spend and high booking of CapEx late last year. We finished a lot of projects. The cash payment for those spilled over into this year. So those are kind of the working capital dynamics of our group. So higher cash outflows first half, then sort of recovers during the second half and that’s the dynamic that played out in years past and what’s playing out a bit this year as well. So it will be easier I think once we sort of lap this first year here to be able to show you equity free cash flow on a rolling 12-month basis. For the moment you’re kind of looking at it just on a 6-month basis. So you’re kind of -- you’re seeing that dynamic, but only a partial picture of that. But look, we expect equity free cash flow to be a strong number or certainly a very material positive number this year and in line with the trend line of what we’re looking to get over the next 3 years of $800 million to $1 billion. So yes, that’s just the comments I’d say on that.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

Yes. And just to give you a little bit more color because I imagine, Klas, this is super important. Colombia and the delivery of what we said we would do in Colombia is helping a lot. Margins are expanding on EBITDA, we’re lapping the investments that we have made before, we’re adding subscribers, service revenue is increasing, EBITDA margins are growing, OCF is expanding. So that’s helping tremendously. Guatemala remains the equity free cash flow producer that we were very happy to buy. So that’s helping on that level quite significantly as well. And the investments we made in Panama, as you’ve seen from the results, are giving us one of our highest OCF growers and as a result, a strong contributor to equity free cash flow. So things are coming into place as we hoped and anticipated they would.

Klas Danielsson

Analyst

Fantastic. And just to kind of follow up. Lots of questions here obviously I would ask, but to try to limit myself to 1 question, I guess. So just on a kind of higher level on the CapEx side, I mean it’s clearly been the case for you the last few years where you’ve been focusing on the 4G side and that’s kind of pulling back a bit. I mean I did notice this quarter I think both you and America Movil launched 5G kind of still at a small scale in Guatemala, but still. And I think looking ahead there, do you still see the kind of investment cycle in 5G as being a few years away from now or how are you kind of envisioning that side from here?

Mauricio Ramos

Management

Great question, Klas, and thank you for bringing it up. Because of course as we say these things publicly to you our investor base, we also need to weigh in the way things are playing out politically in each one of our markets. And I think the Guatemala example is a perfect example of what we said earlier during Investor Day. So just to answer your question holistically. We said back then and we totally are beginning to see that to be the case that there’s really no gotcha moment here in terms of a CapEx spike up because of 5G or fiber investments as you recall. And we said that we expected our CapEx spend to be right around $1 billion per year in CapEx and you’ve just seen us reiterate that and as a result of that, consistently say we’re going to deliver on our OCF and as a result of that, on our equity free cash flow target. So nothing really has changed. We also said back then part of the reason we laid out these very careful 3-year plans is because we already own a ton of 5G spectrum and Guatemala is a perfect example of that. We launched Guatemala on the back of the 3.5 spectrum that we already had and although there are no other planned 5G auctions, politically there’s always a moment in discussion between presidents and others as to when it should or shouldn’t happen. But when you look at the way Guatemala worked out is exactly what we said would happen. It is not a big gotcha moment. There’s no disruption in the marketplace as a result of this. It is a nonstand-alone 5G network. As a result of that, it can be done, has been done and will be done within this CapEx envelope of $1 billion that we described. And it’s just one more operational delivery that we have done. And as a result of that, .

Sheldon Bruha

Management

We lost Mauricio there. Well, look, I think I’ll just try to follow up there. I mean, I think as he’s highlighted, I mean we still -- Mauricio, you’re back. You just dropped off for a second.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

Did you not hear everything I said?

Sheldon Bruha

Management

We just missed the last 30 seconds.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

Okay. Well, basically said I think that the punch line was that the Guatemala launch is a perfect example of the concept that 5G for us will be done within the $1 billion CapEx. We just launched 5G in Guatemala, largest market, no big gotcha moment for you. It’s done, it’s out in the market, caused no disruption. We did it on a nonstand-alone 5G technology as you would expect we would, we did it on a spectrum that we already own and we’re doing it within the CapEx envelope. So we’re not changing the $1 billion per year because there’s no gotcha moment. It’s going to be done not on top of, but as a part of that $1 billion envelope. And thank you, Sheldon, for letting me know that the punch line had not been heard.

Klas Danielsson

Analyst

Fantastic. Can I just sneak in one last quick question? Just lastly, kind of there was, I guess, some commotion on you noting that you received a subpoena from the DoJ earlier this year within the rights issue process. Could you kind of update us on that? Has there been any developments or anything to comment around on that side?

Mauricio Ramos

Management

I think you’re going to hate my answer and how boring it is, probably going to be the well of no news for you. We did receive a subpoena in April of this year. You know basically what a subpoena is, it’s a request for information. The only difference is that you have to provide the information. There’s really not a lot more that I can tell you or anything that’s really happened in terms of timeline or content with regards to that. We actually don’t know what the DoJ is effectively investigating. What I tell you is that we are cooperating to the fullest and when I say the fullest, I mean the fullest with the DoJ because we simply want to be and continue to be that agent of positive change in the markets. And as you very well know since we self-reported some years ago, we have become and made significant investments to become what I deem to be the world standard in compliance in the region. So there is a part of me that is enthusiastic about showing that side of us to the DoJ even if it’s in the context of a subpoena. That part was not in the script, that part was not legal, but it gives you an idea of the fact that we really want to showcase to them that we are really very compliant. I get a little bit of help from the lawyers on that last point, but heck, that is what I feel.

Sarah Inmon

Management

Our next question will be coming from Stefan Gauffin from DNB. Stefan?

Stefan Gauffin

Analyst

So Colombia is progressing really well and right now what we are seeing is high inflation, really large currency movements in Colombia and now you also mentioned increased cable competition in Colombia. So can you elaborate a little bit about these impacts and how you are seeing that you can handle these issues, especially I think that the Pay TV margin can be impacted by the currency movements?

Mauricio Ramos

Management

So Colombia, let me start with -- and yours is, Stefan, a very holistic question. So let me approach it in a very holistic manner because there’s a lot of moving pieces in Colombia. Number one, the results are nothing short about EBITDA expansion and OCF expansion. So pretty happy with the performance of Colombia. The macro outlook and political outlook, if you will, despite the spike in currency is actually turning out to be less dramatic than we had ourselves prepared for and anticipated. When you look at all the cabinet members that the Petro administration has put in place, all of them have been a part of prior administrations. So the sense that you get is this is not a radical change. This is a continuity in the political elite that has been managing the country. So we take some significant relief from that at the macro and political level. Now at the operating level, I will speak a little about mobile and your question kind of belies underneath this the notion that we really are working well now in mobile. All the questions before were about mobile and today we’re growing almost 20% in mobile and adding postpaid subscribers every quarter consistently. On the Home business, which I think is your point here, I want to point your attention to some of the things that are in the market and some of the things that we ourselves have been driving. So earlier this year, as I alluded, we made the call to move away from selling in some of the lower socioeconomic segments because we didn’t think we’re getting a return on capital there and we thought we should be doing far better focusing our efforts on the high socioeconomic sectors of the country. And that already…

Stefan Gauffin

Analyst

Can I just ask one question around Bolivia where you say you changed the commercial strategy, which resulted in loss of prepaid subscribers? Can you just describe what you’re doing and what you’re seeing in that market?

Mauricio Ramos

Management

Simple. These were what’s the -- Sheldon, you may need to help me out here with the right wording for this. These were not good subscribers. So this is not a cleanup. This is not -- so this is basically very low ARPU, almost no ARPU subscribers that we were spending a lot of money trying to service and keep. So we basically with the local team agreed on the fact that hey, that KPI is not going to look good for a quarter or 2, but you know what, what ultimately matters here is OCF and equity free cash flow. So just go ahead and shed them and we’ll be happy to not live with those subscribers even if we have to answer a question or 2 on the matter and we’ll keep the good ones. And as a result of that, you see that the service revenue in Bolivia --on mobile I’m talking, the service revenue in Bolivia despite the competition from Entel is stable in Bolivia. By the way on Colombia, please don’t miss the ARPU stabilization and improvement that you’ve seen this last quarter. I probably missed the most important thing on Colombia. Sorry to go back, Stefan, but my mind lost partly there. So on Bolivia, the issue is just as I described and we’re happy that Bolivia with the difficulties that we’re having is showing mid-single-digit growth in Home. We continue to build quite a bit in Bolivia. As a matter of fact it would be growing more than it has done in the first half of this year if we had not had some delays in the build in Bolivia quite honestly. We’re a little bit delayed in Bolivia 3 months or so and that caused us some delay in our ability to grow on Home in Bolivia, but we’re back on track. And B2B is also growing in Bolivia. So Bolivia is really improving and you see that on the EBITDA, which is up this quarter 7% or so.

Sarah Inmon

Management

Our next question will be from Vitor Tomita from Goldman Sachs. Vitor?

Vitor Tomita

Analyst

First one would be regarding the acceleration in B2B. You mentioned briefly the performance in Colombia and Bolivia. Could you give us some more color on which countries and on which types of digital services have been the main drivers there? That would be our first question.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

Yes. So the answer is very straightforward and I’ll be fast and sweet on this one and then I’ll elaborate a little bit as I always like to do. So the first part of the question, it’s broad-based. It’s across all countries, some more than others, but across all countries. So Panama is doing well, Colombia is doing really well, Paraguay is doing well, Guatemala is doing really well. So it’s all countries, some more than others. Very simple. The second part of the question is what about digital? It’s basically cloud services

Sheldon Bruha

Management

Sorry, we lost Mauricio. Hopefully he’ll reconnect here just in a quick second. But look, I’m just expanding on what he was saying around the digital. So these are cloud services. This is going to be hosting and security that -- Mauricio, we just lost you there for about 20 seconds again.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

All right. So you got the part on what the digital services are, Vitor?

Vitor Tomita

Analyst

Up to cloud services, yes.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

Okay. So it’s cloud, cyber security and those new ones. Now there’s 2 really segments that are working very well for us and remember, this is a strategy that we put in place before the pandemic. During the pandemic, we took the time to continue to implement it and develop and by this, I mean changing the product line, changing the distribution, training the sales forces, being a lot more focused on what we do. And the 2 segments that are really growing behind all this is the SME sector, you know what that is. That is growing 8%, 9% and that is straight up. We’ve added to that sector maybe 30,000 to 40,000, I could be off on the right numbers here, just in the last year. So significant additions there. And the second sector that’s working really, really well is the SMB the corporates and that’s on the back of the digital services that I’ve just described, which encompass few things that I just described. And the growth there is volume driven. We’ve added some 10,000 accounts give or take. But significantly ARPA driven because these services are really demanded for so it’s allowing us to have nice volume, but more significantly ARPA growth in corporate. And we do expect this to be very resilient going forward by the way.

Vitor Tomita

Analyst

And just as a follow-up question to that. If cloud continues to be a main driver for B2B growth, do you believe that you have any implications for thinking about margins or CapEx given that this can be more of a CapEx-light segment, but might also require some infrastructure on the other hand?

Mauricio Ramos

Management

It’s early days for us. But as we began to analyze all these almost contract by contract, quite frankly, we love the returns on this because they are -- I wouldn’t say immediate, but they’re very tangible returns that can be analyzed very, very efficiently. So we’ll be happy to take that equation. Sheldon, I know you’ve been looking at this quite a bit so feel free to jump in.

Sheldon Bruha

Management

No, I think you’re right. You look at what we’re contemplating here around this expansion and growth on B2B once again easily accommodated within sort of our CapEx envelope and we do look at these sort of on a project-by-project basis as well for these larger ones. And certainly all of these are meeting our return thresholds as we move through this migration and growth in our B2B segment.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

There’s also a part of me that loves the idea of building a significant data center business as we are on the back of all of this. You already know that we own 13 of those, they are all Tier 3. We keep building them. So there’s a part of me that likes the notion that this is helping us drive the creation of basically a data center business. I’ll stop there because I know what the next question is and I really don’t want to answer that next question.

Sarah Inmon

Management

Our next question will be from Marcelo Santos at JPMorgan.

Marcelo Santos

Analyst

I would like to ask a little bit more comment on the fixed service environment in Paraguay especially I think the piracy issue that you mentioned.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

All right. So listen, piracy in Latin America as you know, Marcelo, has always been an issue. And sometimes the grass, as I like to say, starts to become a little bit too high and then the time comes for a severe cut down of the grass. We do that every year. And Paraguay was getting a little bit out of control in piracy.

Sheldon Bruha

Management

Yes. I’ll just step in here again, looks like disconnection is a challenge. But no, look, we’ve worked with authorities there and we’re able to sort of identify a particular large abuser on piracy in that country and were able to work with the authorities to shut that one down. Okay. You’re back on. We lost you there for about 10 seconds again, Mauricio.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

No, no, keep going.

Sheldon Bruha

Management

I was just mentioning that we were able to work with the authorities to shut down quite a large piracy operation there in the country. I think they seized almost over $200,000 worth of equipment as part of that. I think importantly as hopefully that remedies a bit of that activity, I think it also sends a strong message I think to other participants or sort of other players in that arena within the country. But look, I don’t think -- I think we do recognize this is also ultimately a big part of the industry that we kind of play in. And as Mauricio sort of said, this stuff will continue to pop up. We’ll continue to be aggressive and try to work with authorities, quite frankly work with the content providers as well, and try to crack down on this and preserve sort of our pay activities as we do so.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

So 2 comments on the things that I saw that were significant, Marcelo. Number one, the sheer focused involvement of the authorities in Paraguay is actually larger, more enthusiastic, more professional than I have ever seen. And number two, as a result of it on the media display that we put on it, a lot of these pirates have actually said publicly they’re going out of business. They don’t want to lose their investments as they have lost and they don’t want to look at fines or imprisonment. And on your larger Home question, the base is growing. The base continues to grow. There is in Paraguay some of that migration from bundle, if you will, to broadband only. Piracy was a part of that of course, right? Of course because you can pirate the content and you can pay only for the broadband connection. So this will help in that. Our continued push into selling what we call the content supermarket, i.e. selling more OTT as an add-on service, will continue to work because that’s additional add-ons that are sold and nobody can add. And into the second half of this year, remember that Paraguayan soccer will begin in the second half of this year so that will drive with all those rights. And of course there’s a World Cup that will drive. So there’s some momentum that should restart in the second half of this year. That’s the Paraguayan Pay TV and broadband story. And by the way while we’re on it, Paraguay is back on growth. Just let not that be unnoticed. Both service revenue, subscribers across the board, et cetera.

Sarah Inmon

Management

Our next question will come from Andres Coello at Scotiabank.

Andres Coello

Analyst

I’m trying to get clean numbers for equity free cash flow and I was wondering if you can please help me clarify how much extra OpEx and CapEx was used to support your initiatives in infrastructure and also in the fintech business. How much money you are using to make this a reality next year in terms of OpEx and CapEx? And a second question, if I may, on Guatemala. I would like to know when you expect Guatemala to go back to growth, how long that’s going to take you? Because we’ve seen weakness in Guatemala in recent quarters.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

So I’ll take the Guatemala question and perhaps give the first one to you, Sheldon, on equity free cash flow. The only thing I’ll say on equity free cash flow before I hand it over to Sheldon is fintech is basically accounting and...

Sheldon Bruha

Management

He lost his line again. Why don’t I just pick up a little bit on your questions and try to give you some color on those 2 investments. Sorry, Mauricio, you were cutting out, but I’ll just -- I was just picking up perhaps on some of the numbers. You had asked just sort of the investment. I think we’ve highlighted earlier in the year the kind of annual spend we’re looking to -- incremental spend we’re spending on fintech this year. It’s in the order of $40 million on the full year basis. That started ramping up very late last year and we’re kind of seeing sort of a full year of that now this year. Now most of that is going to be OpEx. There’ll be a portion of that as CapEx. But from an annualized basis, you should plan on about $40 million of investment there for the full year for that activity. Look, and I think that’s what’s important to highlight as we’ve been commenting about our equity free cash flow growth -- I’m sorry, our operating cash flow growth of 10% on an organic basis. That is growth after absorbing about $40 million of incremental spend for MFS as we invest in that growth opportunity. So that’s MFS. We haven’t commented specifically on infrastructure investment -- I’m sorry, on the towers investment for that carve-out. I will say there will be some costs ramping up on that. You’ll probably see that coming through our corporate costs a little bit as we move through the year as we stand up for that entity and start investing in the aspects to be able to transact with that as we’ve highlighted in 2023, which is our objective. So I don’t think we’re guiding specifically on the number, but just expect some incremental corporate costs as we roll through the year to just stand up that amount.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

And to add to that, Andres, as I seem to be back on, on Tigo Money and I’m looking beyond this year. We were all, including likely you, perhaps not as buttoned up on what would be the cost of ramping up and launching Tigo Money be and the reality is it’s demonstrating and proving to be less than we had anticipated. So we’re happy with the fact that the business launch, enhancement, Panama, et cetera, particularly into next year is going to be less expensive than we had anticipated. So from my point of view, I am happy that it’s not an investment that important as it is strategically is going to continue to have meaningful impact on dragging our cash flow down. I’ll stop right there because I’m going to make some guys in the finance group really, really nervous because I already touched on and kind of I’m ready to push the stop button. On Guatemala, which is a great question because it allows us to now share with you a little bit more what our plan is and what it was on Guatemala. So let me begin with emphasizing that Guatemala is doing exactly what we expected it to do, which is to be a solid and steady grower with massive cash flow generation and it’s on track to do that for this year. It’s just an engine of cash flow. That is what it’s supposed to do for us. In terms of growth, rather than answering your question directly because then I’ll make everybody on the call very uncomfortable on the finance group, I will point you to the difference between Guatemala and some of the other businesses. Guatemala continued to grow during the pandemic. We gained market share, we inched up in revenue, we increased margins. So what you’re seeing now is just tougher comparisons than the rest of the group. So I know you’re very good at math, Andres, so you’ll do that -- understand that if you average out, Guatemala remains a steady grower. Now when you look at what Guatemala is going to do going forward not just in terms of cash flow and what it does for the portfolio, but in terms of growth which was your question, think of mobile for us as we having cemented our leadership during the pandemic. You know that we took some market share. We know that we’re now going to stabilize our market and that we’re now growing on postpaid. So that’s what we aim to do, drive growth on mobile and postpaid. Now if you look at the other business lines in Guatemala...

Sheldon Bruha

Management

Sorry, looks like he got frozen again. Look, I think what’s highlighting we have cemented our leadership here on the mobile side throughout the pandemic and what you’re seeing now. I think quite frankly where our growth within Guatemala is predominantly coming from is on the Home and the B2B side where sort of we’re actually now leveraging that leading market position and high market share position on the mobile piece and really into some of the other segments. And I would say just overall generally quite frankly, this is a great business that it’s really starting to benefit from the high margins and cash flow generation from our scale that we’ve created there. So that’s -- it continues to be an extremely strong cash generating asset for us and it’s benefiting from all the progress we’ve made over the last couple of years there.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

So I’m back on and I’m going to explain why we keep coming back on and off in a minute just to come clean with everybody. We’re actually quite bullish on Guatemala for all the reasons that I’ve just explained. But remember, this is a healthily managed macroeconomic country. All the numbers in Guatemala are good, I think Sheldon was alluding to that. The industry structure is really good. It’s not just a 2 player market, but it’s a market in which both players make money, both of them are fairly rational. So as we both see our cost structures pressured by inflation, I think there’ll be a lot of rationality that would go into that market. So that’s the storyline around Guatemala and hopefully that gives you a lot of good color. Now you all may be wondering what’s going on with our connection. I happen to be in Africa in the middle of the Serengeti and I’m actually on a Tigo Tanzania connection, but I just want to make sure everybody understands that we’re not looking for opportunities in Africa. We’re done and happy with that and that explains why some of the connectivity issues we’re having today.

Sarah Inmon

Management

We have time for one more question from Mathieu at Barclays. Mathieu?

Mathieu Robilliard

Analyst

Can you hear me?

Sarah Inmon

Management

Yes.

Mathieu Robilliard

Analyst

So Mauricio, in your introductory remarks, you mentioned the tough macro environment. In that context, I was wondering if you could give a little bit of color in terms of the impacts of this deteriorated environment. First, in terms of energy, if you can remind us and update us on what kind of hedging for energy costs this year and next year. And then looking at the other side of the coin in terms of pricing power, I realize that in some markets it’s quite consolidated. But how easy is it to pass price increases or more for more initiatives in your countries overall?

Mauricio Ramos

Management

Mathieu, it’s a good question. As I said in the initial remarks, it’s difficult to imagine that we would be absolutely immune to a global recession. We certainly are no superhero group here. But the pandemic showed that we can be very adept at making our OCF and our equity free cash flow very resilient in the context of difficult macroeconomic crises. Now this will sound a little bit strange, but as you see on the Q2 results, it’s having little to no effect. Little to no effect. Now going forward that’s not the view we’re taking and that’s why my remarks were more balanced. We remain convinced that we’re going to hit our targets, but we are putting extra work to get there because we knew this recession, as everybody should have, was a possibility. As a result of that, there’s 2 sides to the equation. One is the cost effect and how we will be able to mitigate that. Some costs are indeed going up like energy and labor in particular, but energy is only a fraction of our cost 2% or so. Labor is a little bit more important, some countries like Paraguay and Colombia have seen wage increases. But we successfully probably already mitigated those impacts throughout this year. These wage increases were actually made at the very early part of this year and we’ve been able to manage through those by making savings elsewhere. And as a result of that, you see our EBITDA margins not only have remained flat, but consistent with prior quarters and our prior year in particular. We started working, as we always do, on everything to do with driving efficiency into the operations. Just about every quarter since we’ve been around, we’ve driven OCF margins up and EBITDA margins up…

Sarah Inmon

Management

That was our last call so -- our last question. So Mauricio, I don’t know if you want to make any closing remarks.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

Well, thank you for joining us today. We like the results we put out today. We believe we’re delivering everything we said we were going to deliver and we’re happy about that. We have renewed confidence despite the macro headwinds that we will deliver on...

Sheldon Bruha

Management

Sorry. Look, you just finished hearing from Mauricio. But look like I said, I think we’re very happy with the quarter and very happy with the performance and we continue to see the broad-based revenue growth that we’ve achieved across the business and as well as the momentum we’re certainly seeing on the EBITDA side year-over-year. So with that -- Mauricio, I guess you’re back on. But I think with that, thanks for your time and look forward to speak with you next quarter.

Mauricio Ramos

Management

I think you probably did a phenomenal job, Sheldon. The key message is we’re on track and we’re going to deliver on that three-year plan that we promised earlier this year. Thanks for joining today.